#10 Tau Ceti Part 4

[Alioth]

what about cryonite? we see mantis farming cryonite on every fucking playable planet, now at their "home" we get less than in calon...
I hope that this is like a test or something and thing will get better in the future

 

[Razor2278]

fix armor 99 lvl I am not able to stand by the guard with this armor my hp drops more like with armor 91swietny armor in which the ship with the best blue stands still and hardly flies at all pfff

 

[KingSub]

what about cryonite? we see mantis farming cryonite on every fucking playable planet, now at their "home" we get less than in calon...
I hope that this is like a test or something and thing will get better in the future

dont compare calon to erebos. erebos gives less cryo than calon because the mantis grinded the oort system to death. same happened to erebos. the planet looks invaded by the mantis. and the little ,,test" you want, you get it against the ancients.

 

[Vesperion]

what about cryonite? we see mantis farming cryonite on every fucking playable planet, now at their "home" we get less than in calon...
I hope that this is like a test or something and thing will get better in the future

dont compare calon to erebos. erebos gives less cryo than calon because the mantis grinded the oort system to death. same happened to erebos. the planet looks invaded by the mantis. and the little ,,test" you want, you get it against the ancients.

I don´t really think that Erebos is meant to be a planet that can be used for farming aside from maybe Harv hunting what still should be profitable at this point in compare to all other Mantis units at Erebos.

As always the most Cryos drop from turrets and normally yield around 3.500-3.800 cryo per drop what is mostly related to their HP and if i remember it correctly it was stated that the amount of cryo a unit can drop is related to their HP they have so that of course squishy units drop way less cryo then those who are mostly sponges for damage.

 

[StarWik]

I just recently equiped the Advanced Tau Ceti Armor And Sentient Afterburner n protector, The Afterburner doesn't feel fast to move the cromiam and the protector seem very weak against the mobs in Erebos, 2 Lighting chains and its gone, 1 Orbital Strike from an Ancient Khons in calon and its gone, Like 4 shots from odion DS at Earth In Unrest and its gone, not even worth to use to clean mines in Venar, like 4 of them and its gone :/

 

[KingSub]

@Vesperion, but anyway on Erebos comes great cryo together.. what i did, upgraded my disruptor only embo tech, storm embo and sentient tech and blazin lava slowy with sentient tech. my parsec storm is full sentient tech know. i began Erebos with 32million croy now i have 31millions and 650k. the amount of cryonite farming is quiet good. cryonite is not a problem anymore i dont know why some players sees a problem in it

@StarWik as i can the best amored ship blazing lava 91 armor is a huge punching bag. i never saw the lava so hard getting torn apart. i struggeld with three level 100 rockturrets.
sentient repair droide only gives 6% per sec. but the reason is here when your armor is below the repairdroids level there will be a limit for his function. embo repairdroide gave my parsec storm 9% per sec and disruptor sometimes 10%. the repairdroide rounds up odd repair numbers to avoid discrepancies thats the reason for the 9-10% per dec. if you repair it from the lowest point, e.g. out of the hangar with 100% damage, you can see exactly how strong the repper is these discrepancies will never happen again. sol rare repair droide gave the parsec storm 6% per sec. on draconis 7% you will understand the armor for each system better to see the difference and it is big in tau ceti.

 

[StarWik]

@KingSub
I understand about the repair droid, but what I am referring to is the protector, I tried the Deep Recurrent Protector against an Odion patrol in Earth In Unrest, The Odion, Khons and Shysis shot me about 3 times each, The protector held me until half, And when I finished killing the patrol the protector still had about 20% HP left.

Now, the Sentient? I received the same or even less shots from the same patrol, and they destroyed my protector, and it's not like I can say it's because of the 91 armor, since I currently have the 99, and it practically left my cromian unusable, I currently use the slate to get blueprints and decrypt Sentient components.

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[Vesperion]

@Vesperion, but anyway on Erebos comes great cryo together.. what i did, upgraded my disruptor only embo tech, storm embo and sentient tech and blazin lava slowy with sentient tech. my parsec storm is full sentient tech know. i began Erebos with 32million croy now i have 31millions and 650k. the amount of cryonite farming is quiet good. cryonite is not a problem anymore i dont know why some players sees a problem in it

Well i go a different approach by tryoing to go directly for Gold tech instead of making an inbetween upgrade to Emb or Senti 1st.

The only exception here are the Senti AB and RD for as geting the gold version will be "funny" to put it mildly considering the units who drops the gold versions. I also made an exception for the Perf to install Senti Perf before Talon to have more fp vs the shielded units and it made already a difference.

However by going this inbetween step i spend 200k Cryo more then i would have spend by directly going for Gold as the upgrade to Senti Perf was already 200k and from there to Talon another 440k or something around that. So i will try to get all other Golds 1st so i can directly go from DR to TC Gold in one go in order to save cryo.

I even did fly all the time with my Emp with DR Blaster and SB hence having the tech for Senti Blaster and SB and can say it was worth it and much cheaper for me then the other way around that maybe is the intended way but once you know Erebos and the locations you can pass them mostly without any pod and imo the Parsec Emporer shines the most when reaching Erebos the 1st time to hunt stuff as it has the Protector and the Perforator so that he is the most versatile ship to get the tech for it 1st and then spread out to the other ship players wanna use/fly at Erebos or other planets.

However i think another issue is player only see the "value" of a cryo and ignore the rate they drop and i must say that it is decend enough to make a small fortune while hunting for the tech/golds where in most cases you should make nearly enough to cover the costs or reduce them by a lot when not encountering a gold struck where one gold after another drops.

 

[KingSub]

@KingSub
I understand about the repair droid, but what I am referring to is the protector, I tried the Deep Recurrent Protector against an Odion patrol in Earth In Unrest, The Odion, Khons and Shysis shot me about 3 times each, The protector held me until half, And when I finished killing the patrol the protector still had about 20% HP left.

Now, the Sentient? I received the same or even less shots from the same patrol, and they destroyed my protector, and it's not like I can say it's because of the 91 armor, since I currently have the 99, and it practically left my cromian unusable, I currently use the slate to get blueprints and decrypt Sentient components.

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protectors are always weak. i remember when we used the long protector on earth in unrest because his hp was quiet better, but his stun absorbing feature was to weak. i only can say that even the deep recurrent shield is not that strong on erebos, sure it has more hp than the lava himself. dont await to much from protectors. i think theyre just fine

just try other protector as rare or regular ancient tech to see some difference and then try thw long one. you will get the same issue.

 

[Vesperion]

Call me crazy but what i find disapointing is that the TC Gold SB still has the same animation/effect like we know it since implementation. I know that the Drac Rare has also no other animation/effect and we stick to the red beam but imo it would have been nice if the TC Gold SB would maybe have received a new look that maybe is similar to the TC Gold Blaster... sadly this will mean that also Rockets may have the lame model and not have received a new look as well while again they surely could go with the look of the Gold Blaster.

 

[Razor2278]

fix armor 99 !!!

 

[Poland]

Do we play different game or is it only me that feel Adv TC Armor as something completely superior to one armor below? That's true that Sentient Afterburner is bad on Chromian but try to install Fusion Force Afterburner now on Mizar regular (not rare!) Storm. Effect is the same. Then farm TC Rare Afterburner and then compare your Chromian with that Storm on Mizar Rare Afterburner.

When I equipped TC Rare Speed Act, I felt big difference between Sentient and Rare, as now I feel like on old systems with Rare Speed equipped. Just go back in times when you didn't have nor TC3 nor Sirius strong items

 

[KingSub]

Do we play different game or is it only me that feel Adv TC Armor as something completely superior to one armor below? That's true that Sentient Afterburner is bad on Chromian but try to install Fusion Force Afterburner now on Mizar regular (not rare!) Storm. Effect is the same. Then farm TC Rare Afterburner and then compare your Chromian with that Storm on Mizar Rare Afterburner.

When I equipped TC Rare Speed Act, I felt big difference between Sentient and Rare, as now I feel like on old systems with Rare Speed equipped. Just go back in times when you didn't have nor TC3 nor Sirius strong items

so i can talk with you about the armor, i've installed the armor yesterday and today rare tc blaster.

armor in my parsec feels very good. sentient droide gives 6%-7% per sec. thats ok

sentient afterburner is in my opinion mhm.. ,,okay"? but i've must say i use 10% flight drone with the other effect(forgot what it was) and 15% flight speed booster. for this perticular afterburner it is very weak without booster or drones. anyway drone will not help much because 15% flight booster is not enough.

 

[Rajaa]

Here we go with bug fixes again.

@Highway Tau Ceti Tranquilizer Stun, gold stun charge. Tried it out with friend on Erebos lz on TC armor chrome (lower armor, r91 one), and it happened that it doesn't work. After one second he can already activate his items, even if not, he's still able to move a bit with stun on.

I'm not sure if Stun is optimized only for r99 armors, but it kinda doesn't work. Deep recurrent stun charge worked better than this restricting enemy to use item for 2-3 sec and less movement.
Gold TC stun seems to have no effect at all. I'll test more tommorow but already seen that gold stun is like no-stun in PvP, while in PvE it is good balanced.

 

[Whatever.]

Sentient Afterburner barely works on some ships with new armor, most notably on slate and CC, its so bad you cant even travel properly on Erebos.

I've also heard from people that repair droid has some issues on some ships, maybe needs to be looked at, also heard that Deep Recurrent protector is stronger than Sentient?? (this doesnt make any sense)

probably need to look at some teks and rebalance them accordingly, specially Afterburner

 

[Razor2278]

I knocked the golden protector out of the tau ceti in my opinion it is too weak it should be stronger and fix armor 99 which weakens ships instead of adding armor it slows them down even more and is weaker than 91 you can see just testing the tau ceti 4

 

[Vesperion]

In case of the AB i noticed as well that i cover less ground with it then i could cover with the DR AB and due of the slower speed leads to units aggroing you so that they follow you regardless the try to pass a certain section with AB what was possible before.

Currently i think the main difference between the DR and TC/Gold Tech is the ships level as until Calon the Ships level was 91 while the tech level was 95 so 4 levels higher what lead to "overefficeny". Now with a Ship and tech level of 99 they are equal what seem to result in a reduced effectiveness for some items and so make them "worse" or feel the same then their DR counterpart.

I will hardly be able to draw a comparision between Sentient and Gold Tech as i plan for most items to go directly for Gold and so skip Embodied and Sentient installment to safe cryos in the end aside from a few exceptions like AB and RD for obvious reasons as the DR AB and RD are way to inefficent on a lvl 99 ship to use them properly there.

 

[KingSub]

I knocked the golden protector out of the tau ceti in my opinion it is too weak it should be stronger and fix armor 99 which weakens ships instead of adding armor it slows them down even more and is weaker than 91 you can see just testing the tau ceti 4

giving more armor will not help. the more armor you have the more uneffectively the repair droide will be. i'm there for to increase the flight speed instead of boosting armors. armor is good i dont understand the reason to buff it.

the better way is when you use armor booster in the shop the incoming damage in pve is reduced that doesnt effect the repair droides power.

 

[Vesperion]

the better way is when you use armor booster in the shop the incoming damage in pve is reduced that doesnt effect the repair droides power.

Well this can be seen relative as maybe not everyone wants to spend gold on the boosters or tries to limit themself to use boosters at all like me and yea i know Split needs to make money but i still belive most gold is spend on those micro pays like e-refills or maybe grav packs.

The only boosters i have active all the time are Ult Membership and Cryo Vault while i use any other boosters only on a very limited amount and then mostly just for 3 hours. Imo you get the most experience and feel to a planet and it´s location when flying it "barefoot" where boosters can alter that feel.

I mean i have at Erebos now way less pods then at the begining after i found the "safe routes" as in most situations Erebos offers you at least 2 choices where 1 is the "more dangerous direct route" and the other is the "fly a longer but therefore safer route" what is pretty amazing i must say as most other planets have a straight forward line without much choice to go for.

 

[KingSub]

Well this can be seen relative as maybe not everyone wants to spend gold on the boosters or tries to limit themself to use boosters at all like me and yea i know Split needs to make money but i still belive most gold is spend on those micro pays like e-refills or maybe grav packs.

The only boosters i have active all the time are Ult Membership and Cryo Vault while i use any other boosters only on a very limited amount and then mostly just for 3 hours. Imo you get the most experience and feel to a planet and it´s location when flying it "barefoot" where boosters can alter that feel.

I mean i have at Erebos now way less pods then at the begining after i found the "safe routes" as in most situations Erebos offers you at least 2 choices where 1 is the "more dangerous direct route" and the other is the "fly a longer but therefore safer route" what is pretty amazing i must say as most other planets have a straight forward line without much choice to go for.

sometimes i turn back when i see dangerouse routes with runners, but than choice to go another way and sometimes i get podded.