The Brotherhood of Vega System

[-BoH-]

Me too. I will buy this alloy soon. life is short enough, so why not buy it huh? btw i have already the red alloy

Nah i mean like...this unique look, i've seen people with the antimatter armour alloy on their mutilator parsec and it does not look like that

 

[KingSub]

Nah i mean like...this unique look, i've seen people with the antimatter armour alloy on their mutilator parsec and it does not look like that

I think it is because of the black paint. the green alloy shimmers even more with black paint. that what i guess

 

[-BoH-]

I think it is because of the black paint. the green alloy shimmers even more with black paint. that what i guess

You sure about that?

 

[KingSub]

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You sure about that?

By the way this is the old design from the Mutilator. Sometimes SSG rework ships for e.g Emperor and Hunter. Look how much more details the Mutilator now have. More sharpen edged. More shadow and graphical details and some adjustments for the alloy shining. I like how simple but badass the old Mutilator looks like.. But the finished Mutilator is alsl beautiful in his way at that e.g you see that devs try to make the best of the ships in terms detailing as it possible. So they deserve a like here for this awesome work for years that no one sees, until they are detail lovers

 

[-BoH-]

By the way this is the old design from the Mutilator. Sometimes SSG rework ships for e.g Emperor and Hunter. Look how much more details the Mutilator now have. More sharpen edged. More shadow and graphical details and some adjustments for the alloy shining. I like how simple but badass the old Mutilator looks like.. But the finished Mutilator is alsl beautiful in his way at that e.g you see that devs try to make the best of the ships in terms detailing as it possible. So they deserve a like here for this awesome work for years that no one sees, until they are detail lovers

Ngl, i think the pirate berserker mutilators design loocks much coolder. Think it would be awesome if they create variations of the mutilator such as the mutilator elite where it looks like that.

 

[-BoH-]

I had to pod taking that shot XD ^

I know this is offtopic but I think the devs should allow us to have different styles from our armour alloys, I don't know if this is old but these versions of the antimatter Armor alloy look really cool

 

[KingSub]

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I had to pod taking that shot XD ^
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I know this is offtopic but I think the devs should allow us to have different styles from our armour alloys, I don't know if this is old but these versions of the antimatter Armor alloy look really cool

Jup there a different styles from alloy and engine lights. I liked that. But you see how much different the details are here if you compare those ships

 

[NinjaFlow]

Must be a vvveeerrryyy slow proces then considering that it now is working on Gazica for how many years now? And the planet still is alive and well with bugs flying around and vegetation still beeing there? Maybe a malfunction?

In the history of the game we destroyed the hive, right? So we can say that Hive no longer has that plasma-beam, at least not working

If they took Hive out of there after completing the Draconis story, how would we go back there to get the remaining technologies and also be able to help other players?

 

[KingSub]

In the history of the game we destroyed the hive, right? So we can say that Hive no longer has that plasma-beam, at least not working

If they took Hive out of there after completing the Draconis story, how would we go back there to get the remaining technologies and also be able to help other players?

Mantis-Hive is not destroyed. It is weakened. The Plasma-Beam is still connected to Gazica till this time, but it is not function at 100% power. So the process to drain Gazicas life is so slow, that Gazica could survive for eons.

Also it is hard to create a real time story planet for Draconis and for Tau Ceti in this case.
There was a rumour that there will be a Mantis-Hive new landzone but i dont believe this because this doesnt make any kind of sense for the whole storyline. Sure the Mantis want to rebuild the Hive to keep their Queen and them selfs as strong as possible. The Hive is a huge ship that travels between Starsystems. You could combine so much Storyline with the Hive but that would be fanfiction. Anyway. Storywrittin is fun. And details makes a Story perfect!

 

[TunaThePilot]

It's a great writing series. Thank you all for what you contributed to me. I've been playing since 2014. I could only understand the story now.

 

[Vesperion]

After i was now finally able to complete the Story of Calon i must say that for some reason the story feels "convoluted" with lots of confusion.

I mean first of all It "seems" that during the EiU Story for some reason 2 characters vanish (Rosebud and Morbod). The we find out that Morbod died because of... uhm why did he die? Rosebud is missing and so maybe will show up at TC4 again (at least i can not remember that we have found him again).

Then some stuff happens, Planck gets captured, Ancients attack us at Terasa and boom we are at Calon. Here for some reason Planck seems to die to and only his ship can be found. Planck seems now to be a part of the Ancient System or has implemented some code into the system?

Then at some point we attack the Raiders to "make the rules" and Natassia seems to have ben captured and replaced by a "fake Natassia" at some point, we reactivate a huge database that contains whatever information, find out that the Ancients where active in every system and an entity wants proof that we do not make the same mistake like (who knows how many) years/decades ago and finally when all is restored we will get access to the Mantis Homeworld.

I think a reason for me why following the story is really hard is the part that a lot of mission updates contain no real information about the details of the mission or the "reason" so i feel "more lost in the TC story then in compare to every other system" where it made at least somewhat sense.

 

[KingSub]

After i was now finally able to complete the Story of Calon i must say that for some reason the story feels "convoluted" with lots of confusion.

I mean first of all It "seems" that during the EiU Story for some reason 2 characters vanish (Rosebud and Morbod). The we find out that Morbod died because of... uhm why did he die? Rosebud is missing and so maybe will show up at TC4 again (at least i can not remember that we have found him again).

Then some stuff happens, Planck gets captured, Ancients attack us at Terasa and boom we are at Calon. Here for some reason Planck seems to die to and only his ship can be found. Planck seems now to be a part of the Ancient System or has implemented some code into the system?

Then at some point we attack the Raiders to "make the rules" and Natassia seems to have ben captured and replaced by a "fake Natassia" at some point, we reactivate a huge database that contains whatever information, find out that the Ancients where active in every system and an entity wants proof that we do not make the same mistake like (who knows how many) years/decades ago and finally when all is restored we will get access to the Mantis Homeworld.

I think a reason for me why following the story is really hard is the part that a lot of mission updates contain no real information about the details of the mission or the "reason" so i feel "more lost in the TC story then in compare to every other system" where it made at least somewhat sense.

tau ceti storyline is very good but in the middle of part 2 it feels "rushed". most of the part 3 storyline are rushed too e.g doppelgänger with fake natassia - this story is very good but in has no details at all. maybe our natassia was always fake and we rescued her in calon finally.

part 3 had the most interesting storylines and more potential for more details and lore about the ancients. there are few more things to tell e.g ancient archives it includes different variations of technologies e.g anti matter etc.

sure tau ceti has to be fully released after 8 years of developing it, but it needs more mission for more details and storytelling, but @alewx did a great job for the storytelling and maybe he is the only one who read the lore about the main story perfectly to creat it imperfectly because of whatever reason.. i think the final part will be rushed more again and it would be good to involve earth in unrest for the final part, or finally capture the swarm merged mantis thing.

and i have a doubt that the ancients will help us in the final part. sure @Highway said that they will involved there but not that involved as it deserves. maybe they will leaves us in the end, but these are only my theories.

the most common question that needs to be questioned is - where is the mephisto nebula ? should be in draconis right? the methanoids attacked the nebula "dragons" before the mantis invaded draconis system. many many ancient techs are used by the methanoids this could be the "mistake" what the entity told us on calon for a trust path.

story is good actually very good , the best yet.. but it needs more details.. details makes a story perfect.

 

[Vesperion]

For me most of the Story in TC is more build around the "How can we fail instandly with poor mechanics to artifically extend the time to complete a mission"?.

I mean i get it that Missions should get harder to complete but seriously... flying some missions in Squad is more damaging you then flying the same Mission Solo. Missions that require you to stay in an area fail if a Pilot of the Squad is not in the area in time; leaves the area or pods while the rest of the squad is still inside the area.

Other Missions are more build around "time consuming" and take easily 30-60 Minutes to complete what is good and bad at the same time cus if at any point of the mission the above mentioned Squad difficulty is added it is even more painfull if maybe short before the end of the mission anything goes wrong and you have to redo all of the mission again just because of 1 Player of the squad.

I really really hope that TC4s story missions will not have the same crap mechanics just to "justify the 8 (currently announced) missions" as i currently fear that they either take an insane amount of time or have way to many failure conditions related to Squads.

doppelgänger with fake natassia - this story is very good but in has no details at all. maybe our natassia was always fake and we rescued her in calon finally.

The challenge here is really the point of "When did the switch happen?" as i don´t remember any point of the Story where Natassia seem to have changed. The only point where she "seems to act differently" is during the Missions "House Call" and " The Source of all Nuisance" as she is here way more aggresive and where Layla then steps in.

I hardly belive that Natassia was a fake from the very start and assume that at some point during the TC Story it must have happened but as nowhere in the story there was some sort of "communication problem" with her that would indicate that something might have happened it is hard to really define the time of the actuall switch.

and i have a doubt that the ancients will help us in the final part. sure @Highway said that they will involved there but not that involved as it deserves. maybe they will leaves us in the end, but these are only my theories.

Considering the trailer of the Mantis Homeworld it seems to be inhabited by Mantis only. Raiders would make sense that they are not present there as they should have no knowledge about the Mantis Homeworld while on the other hands the Ancients "would have a reason to support us" after we have helped them so much and they know the location for sure as they give us this info after the last mission of Calon.

My best bet is that they only will show up in some Missions as spawning units that need to be escorted or only be in the final Mission where maybe even all other systems join the "Final Battle against the Mantis". Would at least not wonder me if the TC4 Story will involve to return to the other systems to meet the other characters we have met during all the story in order to prepare the Invasion of the Mantis Homeworld.

 

[KingSub]

For me most of the Story in TC is more build around the "How can we fail instandly with poor mechanics to artifically extend the time to complete a mission"?.

I mean i get it that Missions should get harder to complete but seriously... flying some missions in Squad is more damaging you then flying the same Mission Solo. Missions that require you to stay in an area fail if a Pilot of the Squad is not in the area in time; leaves the area or pods while the rest of the squad is still inside the area.

Other Missions are more build around "time consuming" and take easily 30-60 Minutes to complete what is good and bad at the same time cus if at any point of the mission the above mentioned Squad difficulty is added it is even more painfull if maybe short before the end of the mission anything goes wrong and you have to redo all of the mission again just because of 1 Player of the squad.

I really really hope that TC4s story missions will not have the same crap mechanics just to "justify the 8 (currently announced) missions" as i currently fear that they either take an insane amount of time or have way to many failure conditions related to Squads.


The challenge here is really the point of "When did the switch happen?" as i don´t remember any point of the Story where Natassia seem to have changed. The only point where she "seems to act differently" is during the Missions "House Call" and " The Source of all Nuisance" as she is here way more aggresive and where Layla then steps in.

I hardly belive that Natassia was a fake from the very start and assume that at some point during the TC Story it must have happened but as nowhere in the story there was some sort of "communication problem" with her that would indicate that something might have happened it is hard to really define the time of the actuall switch.


Considering the trailer of the Mantis Homeworld it seems to be inhabited by Mantis only. Raiders would make sense that they are not present there as they should have no knowledge about the Mantis Homeworld while on the other hands the Ancients "would have a reason to support us" after we have helped them so much and they know the location for sure as they give us this info after the last mission of Calon.

My best bet is that they only will show up in some Missions as spawning units that need to be escorted or only be in the final Mission where maybe even all other systems join the "Final Battle against the Mantis". Would at least not wonder me if the TC4 Story will involve to return to the other systems to meet the other characters we have met during all the story in order to prepare the Invasion of the Mantis Homeworld.

mission mechanics are very bad and very good to fail e.g tringulation trap.

i dont think we will see all characters in the final battle against mantis, but i think earth will be involved for help too.

the truth is.. maybe the ancients didnt know that they were attacked or hijacked by the species called "mantis" i mean look at the planet it has some gizas burried and i bet we will see a hijacked giza again. and the dots seems to be real, calon and the mantis planet have some connection togehter.

but how did they hide the mantis system? and is this stargate really mantis like or is it stolen from the ancients? quantumjumps are much more effective than hyperjumps - jump without no one ever will know.

 

[Vesperion]

maybe the ancients didnt know that they were attacked or hijacked by the species called "mantis"

Considering that in one mission we have to destroy a Hacking Device that is operated by the Mantis this may explain how they managed it to use them on earth. The thing is that those Ancient relays seem to make it possible to controll Ancients in other systems (maybe just planets) if we consider that the last mission at EiU was to destroy the Relay that seems to controll this whole operation with Calon as it´s origin.

Also in the Mission "Distant relatives" we find out that in each system on a planet such a relay is placed (that they can only be seen during the mission is another thing) but here Ancients land when we approach the relay in order to defend it so it would confirm that the Ancients could have been operated on other Systems as well.

i mean look at the planet it has some gizas burried

This is something even @Poland is confused about (and me as well) cus even when i watch the trailer for TC4 over and over again i can not find any point where a Giza can be seen buried at the planet. Aside from that there is till the Artifact that seems to have no more relvance to the original story after we have collected all pieces. If my memory serves correctly the only reason why we have collected the Artifact was to "open the Wormhole" in order to travel to Sirius while the map that can bee seen at the Artifact can nowhere be found.

Even if we would take the trailer again it would only have 2 Planets where one is the Mantis Homeworld while the other is a destroyed one with an RDX hangar for the Reactor Challenge. This would still mean that 2 planets are missing as the rings at the artifact indicate at least 4 Plantes should be present in the system it shows + my theory of a planet and a moon who are hidden "inside of the sun".

 

[KingSub]

Considering that in one mission we have to destroy a Hacking Device that is operated by the Mantis this may explain how they managed it to use them on earth. The thing is that those Ancient relays seem to make it possible to controll Ancients in other systems (maybe just planets) if we consider that the last mission at EiU was to destroy the Relay that seems to controll this whole operation with Calon as it´s origin.

Also in the Mission "Distant relatives" we find out that in each system on a planet such a relay is placed (that they can only be seen during the mission is another thing) but here Ancients land when we approach the relay in order to defend it so it would confirm that the Ancients could have been operated on other Systems as well.


This is something even @Poland is confused about (and me as well) cus even when i watch the trailer for TC4 over and over again i can not find any point where a Giza can be seen buried at the planet. Aside from that there is till the Artifact that seems to have no more relvance to the original story after we have collected all pieces. If my memory serves correctly the only reason why we have collected the Artifact was to "open the Wormhole" in order to travel to Sirius while the map that can bee seen at the Artifact can nowhere be found.

Even if we would take the trailer again it would only have 2 Planets where one is the Mantis Homeworld while the other is a destroyed one with an RDX hangar for the Reactor Challenge. This would still mean that 2 planets are missing as the rings at the artifact indicate at least 4 Plantes should be present in the system it shows + my theory of a planet and a moon who are hidden "inside of the sun".

the most issue with the ancients on earth in unrest was that the mantis had power over the earth relay. meanwhile in "dark premonition" the secret methanoid pilots are attacking us on our way to carl sagan and in the back route ancients attacks us for the reason because the relay is still hijacked by the mantis. the reason why the methanoids playing two-games here is they don't want us to know the truth.

later on calon it was necessary to lease the dots and connection from the mantis and pirates. the entity said if he didnt compensated himself on calon he could die, he keept himself alive. look what happened on aurora and desai.

the ambassador said we shouldnt go deeper in the dark side of the ancient past and maybe this would tell us what the valatory sect actually is. but most of the valatory sect are theories because there is not alot to tell, but let me tell you something else. most of the anti matter techs are listed in on the old ancient archvies, even before tay ceti, sirius and draconis the ancient storyline began slowy in sol system.

as mysterious the brotherhood is we know more about them than the valatory sect.

tau ceti is splitted in 4 part story stelling
part 1 - we need to search for the ancients as the mantis story continues and pirates story gets bigger with more ancient activities on venar.
part 2 - invaded earth with ancients and mantis. they seem like an ally and we need to release them and destroy the relay station, later on we will know that other sol planets are invaded as well.
part 3 - is the mysterious part. finally we can confront the origin of the ancients and they seem more advanced as we usual knew in sirius. its about trust and failure in the past. the methanoids warn us to join the ancients, but we cant join them without a trust. planck did die on calon, but the entity compensate him as well he did it before. in the end the entity will show his trust to us and wants to guide us for the first attack on the mantis planet. the ancients are free, but few more dots are left on the mantis planet.
part 4 - i think this part will show us the dark side of the ancients a little bit and mostly they want refuse to help us. its not about to kill the queen, its about to release the ancients finally and this kinda situation will be interesting for the future storyline.

 

[Vesperion]

planck did die on calon

I more belive here that Planck may have been turned into "something else" if we take the tech of TC for real and seems to be connected to "Neural processes". So maybe Plancks mind just was "integrated" into the Ancient Network.

I mean the Entity states "Planck is now a part of us" what indicates that maybe his body may not exist anymore but his mind was transfered into the Ancient Network to continue there. Also in compare to Morbod who seem to have died at EiU during the Mission "Time of Farewell" while Planck´s ship still exists as we had found it in the Mission "A Companion On His Own" but without any traces of Planck´s body.

If we assume that the "death of a Charcater who pilots a ship only happens when his pod gets destroyed" it means Planck was not killed but changed on his own will to be a part of the Ancients. Remember that Vicius "was killed by Rosebud" (or was it Hornblower?) at the Mission on Hive "Vicius The Mutilator" as it was the first and only instance where a pod was "actively deystroyed" to indicate that Vicius is not more alive from that point on.

 

[KingSub]

I more belive here that Planck may have been turned into "something else" if we take the tech of TC for real and seems to be connected to "Neural processes". So maybe Plancks mind just was "integrated" into the Ancient Network.

I mean the Entity states "Planck is now a part of us" what indicates that maybe his body may not exist anymore but his mind was transfered into the Ancient Network to continue there. Also in compare to Morbod who seem to have died at EiU during the Mission "Time of Farewell" while Planck´s ship still exists as we had found it in the Mission "A Companion On His Own" but without any traces of Planck´s body.

If we assume that the "death of a Charcater who pilots a ship only happens when his pod gets destroyed" it means Planck was not killed but changed on his own will to be a part of the Ancients. Remember that Vicius "was killed by Rosebud" (or was it Hornblower?) at the Mission on Hive "Vicius The Mutilator" as it was the first and only instance where a pod was "actively deystroyed" to indicate that Vicius is not more alive from that point on.

i think the key is "embodied mind tech" i searched for more neuronal process after we had deep learning tech, symbolic techs, other variants or other typical ai's that compensate planck somehow.

 

[KingSub]

If we assume that the "death of a Charcater who pilots a ship only happens when his pod gets destroyed" it means Planck was not killed but changed on his own will to be a part of the Ancients. Remember that Vicius "was killed by Rosebud" (or was it Hornblower?) at the Mission on Hive "Vicius The Mutilator" as it was the first and only instance where a pod was "actively deystroyed" to indicate that Vicius is not more alive from that point on.

Vicius the Mutilator is actually dead right in the Hive Story, or was it Lord Fam Doom? i kinda forget that, but one of e'm are alive and Mantis Entforcer is alive too.

 

[Vesperion]

Vicius was killed at Hive while Fam Doom should currently still be in prision at Carl Sagan Lab if i remember it correctly as the last time we have seen him was during the Drac story for the recipe of Neptunes Bliss. Since then there was no other interaction or story where Fam Doom was mentioned so he may return in TC4 at the side of the Queen again.