HP Ranking of Tau Ceti Ships

[Poland]

Bump. Any way to update this topic?

 

[Fission]

HP Ranking has been updated including the newest ship on the game (RDX-12 Hornfels)

PS: HP values of hornfels might be super slightly different from reality as the last digits were hard to calculate due to the number of ships with very similar HP's (Thunderbird, Obsidian, Poenari)

 

[hektor.barbossa]

When we got update for last tc armor ?

Or maybe separate for all systems ranking ? Mizar to tc ?

 

[alewx]

Well well well, i see the numbers and while they are super far of from reality i can recognize the consistency there, so the ranking is not totally off, but would need to make a list see for myself, just for fun.

EDIT: yep checked with an own list and there is just about 2 or 3 ships that not even move much around just switch places by one position. so pretty accurate when it comes to the relative compare.

 

[GOTIL0N]

Well well well, i see the numbers and while they are super far of from reality i can recognize the consistency there, so the ranking is not totally off, but would need to make a list see for myself, just for fun.

EDIT: yep checked with an own list and there is just about 2 or 3 ships that not even move much around just switch places by one position. so pretty accurate when it comes to the relative compare.

Would it be too much to ask that you update the list made by Fission by positioning the ships correctly? Please

 

[alewx]

Would it be too much to ask that you update the list made by Fission by positioning the ships correctly? Please

hmmm ok

 

[Fission]

Thank you for the update

PS: Numbers were just a standarized value to make it easy to see rather than an actual literal number

 

[Vesperion]

Would be much easier i guess to actually give us the numbers in game then try to rely on a list of standarized values (nothing against the work Fission has done to make this list) but would also not require with every new ship or change that may come to request an update for this list + the currently unknown future of PG if the story will continue at some point and how it will continue with the Mantis Story being concluded... as again when a major threat did go another threat may appear and was lurking in the darkness waiting for his time to strike to fill the power vacum.

So chances are still there that at some point PG may continue with the story and this in return brings new ships as well.

But who am i to request just a thing

And this brings us back to good old "show us actual numbers rather then assuming calculation points that always can change with updates and armr/item changes"... my 2 cents about this endless theme hehe.

[Suggestion] Giving us actuall HP next to the %-Indicators

 

[hektor.barbossa]

Hello

When we saw update ?

 

[HGus]

According to October 17 update the relative values for parsec ships should be multiplied by a 25/24 factor.
Assuming it includes Mutilator, Emperor, Disruptor, Locust and Hunter, the new list will be:


General Ranking:

1. AnIn-1 Dominator 10.093 HP
2. RDX-10 Blazing Lava 10.000 HP
3. RDX-09 Black Sate 9.157 HP
4. ne0n-6 Bullfrog 8.854 HP
5. RDX-03 Black Granite 8.430 HP
6. HyAn Mutilator Parsec 8.074 HP
7. ne0n-7 Hawkmoth 7.869 HP
8. ne0n-2 Panther 7.757 HP
9. ne0n-4 Kodiak 7.644 HP
10. RDX-07 Paragneiss 7.584 HP
11. RDX-11 Pitchstone 7,470 HP
12. RDX-09 Chromian Corundum 7.165 HP
13. RDX-02 Poenari 6.868 HP
14. RDX-01 Obsidian 6.846 HP
15. ne0n-5 Thunderbird 6.830 HP
16. RDX-12 Hornfels 6.774 HP
17. AnIn-12 Parsec 6.727 HP
18. AnIn-10 Terrorizer 6.392 HP
19. AnIn-T79 Emperor Parsec 6.250 HP
20. AnIn-S78 Disruptor 6.189 HP
21. RDX-05 Marlstone 6.167 HP
22. RDX-04 Onyx Marble 6.117 HP
23. RDX-06 Veiled Quartz 6.102 HP
24. AnIn-3 Constructor 6.055 HP
25. MST-Y Locust Hybrid 6.022 HP
26. ne0n-8 Wolfhound 5.980 HP
27. AnIn-H33 Hunter Parsec 5.655 HP
28. ne0n-3 Bobcat 4.802 HP
29. ne0n-1 Humpback 4.775 HP

Except for Parsec storm (still below Hornfels) and Hunter (still below Wolfhound) the other ships raised in the ranking, being the Dominator the top again.

 

[hektor.barbossa]

Yes but i mean more like add last tc armor + new rdx ships 13 & 14

 

[HGus]

These indexes are relative. So it is relatable to any armor as far as their are compared at same level. That means they are still valid for R99 Adv. TC armor when compared to TC ships with R99 Deluvian armor

Maybe @Redthorne or @Fission can complete the missing ships. The later using his GM powers or the former from his work at HHG.

 

[Vesperion]

Also also this list only considers the HP of each ship while ignoring everything else.

I think if you would start to try and include the possible survivability of the ships the ranking would shift as well due the config of the ships make them more resistent to incomming damage. I mean alone Hornfels can in theory survive way damage then other ships simply due of the inverter while Lava can take more hits due of the cloud what could make him superior to Domi who has only shield and scram.

But this is then the nitpicky part of such lists^^

 

[Redthorne]

These indexes are relative. So it is relatable to any armor as far as their are compared at same level. That means they are still valid for R99 Adv. TC armor when compared to TC ships with R99 Deluvian armor

Maybe @Redthorne or @Fission can complete the missing ships. The later using his GM powers or the former from his work at HHG.

Updated values have been determined and shipped to V1, they should be updated on the HHG soon enough

Also, did you know that both n3 and n9 got a pretty big HP buff (with a corresponding speed nerf) ?

 

[Starchaser]

Okay so how accurate are the lists here still today?
Are the TC Ne0n ships available for to grind on Venar, and then which ones or all?
I need some proper info since I have bought the Humpback back in 2019 and now I see it has the lowest HP in these lists, so I came to the conclusion it was badly invested cry and I regret it very much. I who never sold a ship am even thinking of selling it. I don't want to loose cry anymore on that ship. I need help and advices of what to do.

 

[NGSpeed]

Okay so how accurate are the lists here still today?
Are the TC Ne0n ships available for to grind on Venar, and then which ones or all?
I need some proper info since I have bought the Humpback back in 2019 and now I see it has the lowest HP in these lists, so I came to the conclusion it was badly invested cry and I regret it very much. I who never sold a ship am even thinking of selling it. I don't want to loose cry anymore on that ship. I need help and advices of what to do.

Hi @Starchaser ,
each shipclass fulfills a different purpose and some are niche picks and the Humpback is a supporter.
He might have lower HP, but his role in a squad is not tanking damage forever ( he can do it shortly with damage inverter tho).
Instead his role is to place an Attack Field Turret for the squadron to boost the damage dealt, stun strong enemies like the Sentry on Erebos or Berserker & Runner. With damage inverter he can also clear a minefield when running first and squadron can catchup after him, the higher movement speed (compared to neon NOT RDX) makes this strategy easier.
Humpback is as a SOLO player not the best choice, but if you are carefully 1v1 the mantis, definitely playable.
Humpback is a TEAMPLAYER (I use him against Sentries in a Squad of 4 or 5 people).
Are there better Ships? YES!
Does it matter to your preferred gameplay? NO!
It's always your choice how you want to play/which ship class you choose.
If your hope was to grind with the Humpback and you never want to use him for his niche combat situations, you should sell him and instead use Paragneiss, Harpy Eagle, Obsidian, Thunderbird or Disruptor to grind.
If you want to grind harvesters on Vénar these should all work greatly.
I do recommend solo grind in Sirius 5th ring, Earth in Unrest and Calon more.
If you play with boosters Erebos works aswell, but better with a squadron of 2 or 3.

 

[Vesperion]

It's always your choice how you want to play/which ship class you choose.

That is until you throw the story mission "Undercover Job" into the mix as it is the only Story mission that forces you to use the Humpback and is also a solo mission iirc that takes a good amount of time (at least 15 mins+) what makes it kinda a "hate ship" as it was a forced purchase for a ship a player may never use anyways. Even when you started the mission did go to Hangar and then switch the ship the mission fails instandly.

Combine it with the "You are not allowed to pod" rule and you have the perfect mix for a ship no one ever wants to play again^^.

I still remember that i tried to not invest more cryo then needed for the sake of finishing the mission as OC is a must considering where you have to go through.

 

[Starchaser]

That is until you throw the story mission "Undercover Job" into the mix as it is the only Story mission that forces you to use the Humpback and is also a solo mission iirc that takes a good amount of time (at least 15 mins+) what makes it kinda a "hate ship" as it was a forced purchase for a ship a player may never use anyways. Even when you started the mission did go to Hangar and then switch the ship the mission fails instantly.

Combine it with the "You are not allowed to pod" rule and you have the perfect mix for a ship no one ever wants to play again^^.

I still remember that i tried to not invest more cryo then needed for the sake of finishing the mission as OC is a must considering where you have to go through.

Hey Vesperion old friend, thank you for your input, I rly didn't remember I do have to use that ship on my next sm, so indeed I need to keep it and also equip it omg what a deception, I thought I would grind the Thunderbird and build that one up but heck it isn't that easy.
You also know me from the old school and that I play solo a lot, therefor Humpback with that much less HP than others will not work for me on a longer pace. Okay I got to do what I got to do. Argh!
Btw Vesperion, I don't remember, but was the Humpback a reward from the mission and free, or did we had to buy it?
I was chk on Hitrchikers but there is nothing about it.

 

[Starchaser]

Hey Vesperion old friend, thank you for your input, I rly didn't remember I do have to use that ship on my next sm, so indeed I need to keep it and also equip it omg what a deception, I thought I would grind the Thunderbird and build that one up but heck it isn't that easy.
You also know me from the old school and that I play solo a lot, therefor Humpback with that much less HP than others will not work for me on a longer pace. Okay I got to do what I got to do. Argh!

I got my answer we had to buy it for over 800k cryo, imho for me that is far too much for a ship with lowest HP. The price should equivale to all ne0n ships and not be that much higher, that is insane. I have it but now I got to get the rest of the bp's to it and I have only Perc. blaster and os so far.

 

[Vesperion]

I got my answer we had to buy it for over 800k cryo, imho for me that is far too much for a ship with lowest HP. The price should equivale to all ne0n ships and not be that much higher, that is insane. I have it but now I got to get the rest of the bp's to it and I have only Perc. blaster and os so far.

If i remember it absolute correctly the only stuff i did install in the Hump was Collector as it is needed to pick a certain item up (cus the pre-installed sub one takes an eternity to finish the job but you can stay cheap with top Sol or Drac one to save even more cryo); Afterburner as you will need it a couple of times; Inverter (mostly for the minefields) and RD if healing was needed.

As the mission itself not really requires any fighting you can do it with most items missing what saves already a ton of cryo for this part alone as the actuall "undercover" is not as undercover as it should be considering that your Hump is surrounded by a bunch of other pilots guarding it and wrecking everything that crosses the path during the mission