Rework OTB AFK player bans.

[Bolossedu14fr]

In my opinion the current system to ban players from OTB is a bit Unfair. ( I have no idea if this is the right place to write this btw)

Recently on Kalgan we had an issue with 2 players loosing connection just before landing, making them miss the land window and getting a 1 week OTB ban. We figured it was a bitunfair as it's not something they can control. In addition on Kalgan we have very few players, making it difficult to have OTB most of the time, with 2 player being banned now it is even harder.

So we thought of maybe instead of an "instant 1 week ban" if you don't land or are AFK, maybe have a warning system. As in instead of immediatly get banned you get a warning that last let's say for a month, that way if it's a 1 time accident the player can still do OTB, but if the player is a repeating offender and they get let's say 3 strikes they then get a more severe punishement as they did the crime 3 times within a month, so maybe 2 or 3 week ban.

Would it be possible to see this implemented ? or maybe someone has a better idea ?

 

[Genjiro]

Hi @Bolossedu14fr,

I agree there that the OTB penalty system could use some improvements. However, I am against reducing the penalty as it can lead to abuse of the already exploitable rule. There is a 5 min window after enlist phase for a player to land which should be plenty of time.

If you had valid reasons (connection issues or crashes) you are always free to appeal the ban via a ticket to support or by messaging the gm/cm for the respective server in pm. If it is justified the ban/penalty may be revoked.

Genjiro

 

[Redthorne]

I agree with Genjiro that the penalty should not be reduced, in fact I'd even say it needs to be harsher for repeated offenses.

Now, I think what should be removed is the "5 minutes to land" rule. I see no point to it, and in cases of disconnects it punishes the entire team. Why do we need that rule? If a player wants to wait 5+ minutes just to be the last to pick a ship they are already putting their team at a disadvantage by simply not being down there. If the player stays in orbit for so long that they no longer meet the "active pilot" criteria, that's on them too. So, I see no point in the 5min rule. That doesn't help with bolossedu's case right now, but I think it should be discussed for the future.

In addition on Kalgan we have very few players, making it difficult to have OTB most of the time

Force à vous, on est dans le même cas en pire

 

[Fra_592]

Also, as a side note, whenever the team panel craps itself, you have to change zone and come back to orbit to see what the teams really are. If you have a laggy internet, that's already 2 minutes out of 5. If you then have to go to hangar and switch ship/drones/items, then come back to orbit then land, almost the entirety of the 5 minutes are spent in loading times leaving you with maybe a few seconds to set your ship. If you didn't crash/had to relog while doing all that, of course, and if moving drones around didn't need you to doubleswitch configuration.
Example of the team panel going mad and needing a reload:

 

[GOTIL0N]

I agree with Genjiro that the penalty should not be reduced, in fact I'd even say it needs to be harsher for repeated offenses.

Now, I think what should be removed is the "5 minutes to land" rule. I see no point to it, and in cases of disconnects it punishes the entire team. Why do we need that rule? If a player wants to wait 5+ minutes just to be the last to pick a ship they are already putting their team at a disadvantage by simply not being down there. If the player stays in orbit for so long that they no longer meet the "active pilot" criteria, that's on them too. So, I see no point in the 5min rule. That doesn't help with bolossedu's case right now, but I think it should be discussed for the future.


Force à vous, on est dans le même cas en pire

Far already gave enough reasons why removing the 5 minute rule would be more harmful than beneficial, how fun it is when the game closes suddenly, because yes, just opening it again is like a minute and a half, also, the first 5 minutes of the cq are the least important, the winner is not decided in those 5 minutes