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-MiiKe- said:
Me my brother neil1 tommyanker and Getro I can say 100% we did not cheat and this is bull, id love to know who these new gm's are as last time I spoke with Kimbo on his player account he was very pissed we de-allied his clan. EVERYONE in this game see's us online the whole time grinding, ive spent much money on gold for CRY BOOSTERS, ENERGY, and MEMBERSHIPS. If I cheated why would I PAY alot of money out of my own pocket. As for Datajam, hacking? you're such a moron at times really, you coming up with that excuse because we took all of you on alone on Venus? GROW UP. Is this the way you guys wanna take down the best clan because you cant do it any other way. Im furious at this farce, I will repeat I am NOT a cheater, my brother is NOT a cheater, tommy is NOT a cheater and getro is NOT a cheater. Search my account before I was suspended/banned I have 0 crystal and I had to recently sell ships to build ships. I want this issue resolving asap. I'll take this as far as it goes to prove my/our innocence as I know and can genuinly say we've been caught in either an honest mistake or a sabotage to me and my clan. And every player that knows us can say this unless your a jelous fool like datajam. I spent alot of time, E and many cry boosters to get enough cry for BOTH of my parsecs.

Datajam why did you sell you constructor? HMMM? Take a look at how much we play, everyone knows we grind hard and alot when we need the crystal as ive had tons of pm's asking when we're going to leave the harv areas and people complaining about it.
MIIKE CALM DOWN! I posted wrong, the response you read was to a different player. You response follows:

Okay Miike, for sake of fairness I offer you my apology for the accusation. The point I was trying to make in my post is, although I have developed a strong dislike for you, you are part of the game dynamic that has developed over the past few months I have been in the game, and to just ban you from the game is an injustice. I am not trying to speak in your favor or disfavor, just using you as an example of how you and I are a part of the game. And, no I'm not jealous . . . just do not like you.

Again, I apologize for my comment regarding your use of hacks and/or cheats as it is inappropriate and not realitive to this topic. Oh, sold the Constructor because I dropped a Mizar Rare ship list night while doing harvs on molikar and I figure the X-Ship more valuable than the Constructor.

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Oh, sold the Constructor because I dropped a Mizar Rare ship list night while doing harvs on molikar and I figure the X-Ship more valuable than the Constructor.

datajam[/quote]


So you sold Full Armour constructor and lost the Armour crystals and just got 25% back from the ship price just for mizar X storm?
Is that logical?
 

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why is everybody shooting on datajam .
datajam is only trying to remind the management that users not only have obligations but that they also have rights .
and along the way he is asking them to see if the management maybe has not made any mistakes in the past or that they are not condeming people that might have been trusting other players 2 much and now have become the victim of their faith in other players .
that is how i see the point that datajam is trying to make and he is not naming anybody as the one responsible for what might have happened in the past .
so please read a post carefully before shooting the piano players as the saying goes
 

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You obviously don't know what your talking about Datajam. Osirus actively pursued these cheats and got some banned. The majority of the new parsecs only appeared recently so how can you blame the old management. The vast majority of the GMs were fair and were not in on any kind of cheating as you suggested. Many were in clans but were experienced enough not to let this affect their judgement. I find it disconcerting to hear that you once had a Constructor but then sold it? Seems a bit dodgy to me so maybe you are not the best to be commenting on this issue.

Bill I have to agree with your opinion of Osirus, and I do not mean to suggest he the problem. As a matter of fact Osirus was my favorite of the old crew. So, let's modify my claim to state "a number of GM's were knowledgable of the use of hacks and cheats and chose to do nothing about it." But, you seem to miss my point. I am trying to explain that this action of banning all these players is not a reasonable action. And, you should be in support of this, not trying to point a finger at me because I think the Parsecc a peice of waste that the game maker suckerd us into to make a few bucks. I'm busy trying to protect the game and a couple of you guys are to busy being over-protective instead of helping me.

You know as well as I do that there are victims on that ban list. Players that we have played with and against for months and months. They are being banned, their names slandered, without so much as a concern for anyone telling them it its wrong. Quit meessing with me and help stand up for our friends that are getting the shaft in this issue.

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OK, this is getting silly now, everyone take a step back for a moment
splitscreen has banned so called "cheaters" for hacking the game, they offered the offenders no explanation, no proof.

just issued bans, these players have no opportunity to prove the claims against them
there is no point flaming each other here in any way, all it does is annoy each other

splitscreen will not change their stance as if they do it will show they made a mistake
on another note, all the players who have been banned are big $$$ players so splitscreen is now
losing that income

you guys will save a fortune now
i would suggest that each and every one of you that has the belief that you are innocent here contact splitscreen in a civil manor and as to see the proof in private

showing the proof in a forum may lead to additional people hacking as others would learn how it was done

its funny how it was the 2 main clans that got hit hardest though,
3nergy and mod seem to have taken the full force of this
is it not possible that it is a ploy by splitscreen to remove the big clans and give the smaller clans a chance at cq planets?

food for thought??
 

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Bright said:
Oh, sold the Constructor because I dropped a Mizar Rare ship list night while doing harvs on molikar and I figure the X-Ship more valuable than the Constructor.

datajam

So you sold Full Armour constructor and lost the Armour crystals and just got 25% back from the ship price just for mizar X storm?
Is that logical?[/quote]


What? R U ? I didn't have the first level of armor on that cow, and at the present rate of cry return i'd be too old to add the armor in time to be of use. Get a grip! Now, either support our friends that are being shafted by this ban or step-off mate.

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Yes I noticed that many people were getting parsecs and other ships very fast.I really dont like cheaters but im still confused.SS still hasnt proved me that those guys are cheaters.Anyway if they are 100% sure I will trust them.

Yeah Miike I know there are still cheaters who escaped from this.But I really think that the known ones are cheaters (some of them are my friends and Im still confused about them, some proves from ss would be great).We all saw that ppl were getting parsecs in 17-30 days.I really dont think this can be done.It sure took them some time to lvl up, do miss and get bps(rares).Maybe im slow but it took me 6 online days to get to mizar and I had 10 online days when I had a ff ship( lvl 39)Knowing that it wants 1.557.777 cry which cant be gotten for next 20 days.From my calculations it means u should get almost 80k a day.I really think this is impossible.If u hunt all day like mad with infinite e u can get max 30k (almost 40k with 33% booster).But still 30k to go.
Anyway I dont think there is any person with no life to spent all his day here.+ I usually visit antares and gemini and never seen anyone hunt there more than 2 days.

But as said by others, they got banned without having the chance to explain.I think there are other ways of punishing someone like letting them in a vega transport with np equipments, 0 cry and 0 e.But just banning them looks a little weird to me.

I really hope this wont happen anymore.No one would feel good seeing many known and respected players get banned.

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I make 100k cry or more per day when im buying E and boosters. And yes I spend ALOT of time to do this. Some guys on that list that are banned that have nothing e.g Yahye he was always sayin how he needed help with crystals for ships in clan chat. I will quote my post again for the gm's to read.

-MiiKe- said:
Me my brother neil1 tommyanker and Getro I can say 100% we did not cheat and this is bull, id love to know who these new gm's are as last time I spoke with Kimbo on his player account he was very pissed we de-allied his clan. EVERYONE in this game see's us online the whole time grinding, ive spent much money on gold for CRY BOOSTERS, ENERGY, and MEMBERSHIPS. If I cheated why would I PAY alot of money out of my own pocket. As for Datajam, hacking? you're such a moron at times really, you coming up with that excuse because we took all of you on alone on Venus? GROW UP. Is this the way you guys wanna take down the best clan because you cant do it any other way. Im furious at this farce, I will repeat I am NOT a cheater, my brother is NOT a cheater, tommy is NOT a cheater and getro is NOT a cheater. Search my account before I was suspended/banned I have 0 crystal and I had to recently sell ships to build ships. I want this issue resolving asap. I'll take this as far as it goes to prove my/our innocence as I know and can genuinly say we've been caught in either an honest mistake or a sabotage to me and my clan. And every player that knows us can say this unless your a jelous fool like datajam. I spent alot of time, E and many cry boosters to get enough cry for BOTH of my parsecs.
 

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Well miike, I think u arent supposed to make so much cry in a day.If u can, devs should chekc this and change this.I have nothing against u m8, I know u have been playing this game for a long time.But some of ur members, and ours have got their parsecs in a few days.Thats what makes me think.

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Donwallace made more than that per day I think or could :p. Grinding hero.
 

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I don't want to drink out of somebody else's soup, but how exactly do you make 100k cryo a day?
 
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I have read all the posts concerning those BANNED from the game for Cheating & Hacking. I also lost some Comrades in Arms to the Hammer. But I look at it like this:

1)If you want to cheat to get ahead in a game, then you dont have enough self respect or personal skill to play the game & advance
2) What is not realized is that cheaters do not get the Ultimate Enjoyment out of a game that the Devs have intended
3) Using cheats & Hacks that change a games Database for any player can & will cause at a minimum case Network Lag, or a WORSE case Server Crash & Overall Game Corruption.

We all have experienced the Lag & Server crashes that have occured in the game. Most of this has been caused by the Cheaters & Hackers in the game. Some of it is caused by the game code (BUGS) or some kind of Hardware failure on the Server or Hardware Failure somewhere along the Internet.

It takes many different connection Points to get the game to your PC so you can play. No-One has a Direct connection (other than the Devs) to the Servers. So if you wanna use Cheats & Hack the game to get ahead, keep this in mind: "You will be Hurting Everyone who is playing the game for your own Selfish wants & needs".

I hope the GMs, Devs & ALL the SplitScreen Staff keep up the Hard Work it takes to Weed these people out of the Game & seek Prosecution of those who ILLEGALLY Hack the Game Servers as it is against International Laws to hack or gain access to ANY Computer (PC), Server or Private Network without any Permission from the Owner(s) of the PC, Server or Private Network for their own Personal Gain.

Also keep in mind that these types of people also may write & Distribute the Malware you may get on your system (Virus's, Spyware, Root Kits, Trojans etc)
 

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To answer datajam's original post:

GM's are unpaid volunteers. They are players who are dedicated to the game enough to offer some of their time to help other player with problems, information and bugged situations. All are mature minded and high level players who know enough about the game to be able to advise people. GM's that fully understand the game, its problems and its deficiencies can speak to the developers better on your behalf as changes will also affect them too. Many games employ GM staff that care nothing for the game they patrol and consistently pass on support tickets as unanswered due to bureaucracy and archaic chains of command. I have removed the chain of command in favour of GM's going directly to the senior staff member who has the GM commands and authority to do what is necessary. This has resulted in faster more efficient responses and interventions.

I can't comment about Gamigo's staff policies but my GM guidelines are distinct and GM's must comply to the letter or have their gm accounts and player accounts banned immediately since they have signed full non disclosure agreements. GM's are not responsible for shaping the game but rather to ensure players adhere to the principles that make pirate galaxy fun to play and to offer assistance when necessary.

I was aware of some dubious conduct of a few GM's when gamigo was in control but they sorted that out, however, I have since changed the GM command rights and levels so that abuse is almost completely eliminated. If you see any current GM's acting dubiously, please send an email direct to my splitscreenstudios address and I will investigate personally.

There is no such thing as a developer cheat code. The problem with GM's using GM commands have been addressed 1 ½ weeks ago with the restructured command rights. Past problems with gamigo management should remain in the past. We are Splitscreen now and the rules are different and hopefully tighter. Although player punishments are subject to circumstance, GM punishments are severe and final.

Lag is an extremely difficult problem to diagnose because it is so vague and open that anything from your computer components, your local exchange, your ISP, the network routes, or our servers or a combination of all could affect it. Complaining to us about lag is like going to the doctor and saying “I don't feel well” and expecting him to fix it.

We have moved to more expensive and more capable servers than the gamigo ones. We are working hard to see if it is our servers that is the lag problem, now that the team has time to continue developing instead of hack investigating - it took 2 weeks of their time for this dirty affair. Sol is far more graphically intense to the previous systems and the next is going to be even more demanding. Remember to try changing the quality settings in the setttings menu to see if it helps client lag, especially on Earth. Please make sure it is not your own computer that needs fixing or upgrading. We are trying to diagnose our end, please help us by checking your end too.

We have made changes to the game from listening to complaints and suggestions that were deemed appropriate for the balance of the game in the whole. I need to amend your analogy a little to fit what we are really doing; it is more similar to buying a nice sports car but having the car recalled to add a speed limiter because it was too fast and detrimental to other user's safety.

Your point about hacks and game cheats is irrelevant since we only took back the game on the 1st and all incidents before that were out with our control. You say that we banned people without addressing the problem, which is completely false since you clearly do not have or have seen all the information and condemning information that we have. Every MMO in the planet takes a hard stance against server hacking and to think that we would be soft on it is ridiculous.

Everyone was under investigation, only those with complete and 100% irrefutable evidence was banned. We are not amateurs at this vocation. We adhere to our terms and conditions entirely when conducting investigations and actions. If anyone wished to challenge our decisions legally, they are welcome to ask their lawyers to contact us through the post to our studio address where we will forward it to our legal department.. You may trust your friends and their word but we put our trust only in evidence, plain and simple. Many players escaped banning because my information on them had almost plausible doubt. We know they used the hackers skills but we do not have complete 100% evidence to prove it. As the hacker himself said, there are 100 or so people who escaped but let it be know that we know who you are.

You may have lost a formidable adversary, as in Miike, but this gives an opportunity for another player to excel to take him place. One who plays fairly and does not cheat, thus proving to be even more formidable than your previous arch-enemy.

To me, it seems that you condone cheating in a game that explicitly forbids it. Saying that my actions to remove cheaters robs you of your fun is clearly skewed. You believing that some of your friends to be victims is also clearly flawed. We knew about everyone 2 weeks ago when I posted in the forum a thread about exploiting and hacking in which I wrote that the logs show everything. This was a cue to come to us for help so we will clear the hacked currency to your original level of cryonite and crystals. However, they decided to keep all their hacked currency and purchase many parsec class ships with full armour and brag about it. Victim? Use of hacked property, which is essentially stolen property, in still a crime in every country or virtual world. If you could only see what evidence we have, you would be very quiet but unfortunately to show anyone (except lawyers) these would give potential hackers and exploiters clues to our log and detection systems allowing for future problems.

We know more facts about these incidents than you can ever believe to know. Each player was investigated as a separate case for which all time-stamped evidence was collated and cross referenced with other logs of players in tandem with several other forms of detection. No banning was taken lightly; all banned pilots showed plainly obvious and condemning evidence that is irrefutable and as Gill Grissom from CSI would say “the evidence does not lie”.
 

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I grinded all my cry legitmately, and spent alot of time and money. I met and made great friends with alot of people, and built up the most successfull clan on the game why would I waste money and jerpordise my hardwork time and effort?
 

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Im with Miike.. i remember all the times i went to a big cry planet, pros, moli etc and he was always at the harvs and argueing with others on the chat.. only other time he wasnt was when Sol was released and he went straight there to claim cq's etc..

Miike Is INNOCENT!!! and is his brothers
 

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Trust me, they are not innocent. To show the evidence would just embarrass them.
 

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As there is alot to read i will try and make my reply short.

I was Vorash former LGM of the English server before Splitscreen took full control.
While i and Osirus were looking after the English server with the other members of the GM team we were aware that players may of cheated. As i am still under a NDA with Gamigo i can not tell you the details from when Gamigo were looking after the server, but i will tell you that any GM found to have abused his commands, did not remained a GM!
If you have proof that a former Gamigo GM had please feel free to private msg me with that.
To suggest that we allowed players to cheat is ridiculous.
Splitscreen have done what i feel is a fantastic job is finding these players that Cheat and may they continue to do so.
 

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I'm shocked to hear that their are 100 hacked accounts still out there and playing...
 

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Yeah bill shocked too, but I think there are even more than 100.Just cant understand why they do this.Where is the fun in cheating.I dont know how it works, but it shouldnt be hard knowing that so many ppl have done it

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