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What would be great is just add some mantis with sniper blasters, or minelayers.

They don't have do to so much damage as in draconis but it would be fun to introduce the defender and sniper weapons out there.
Sniper and minelayers in Antares? Hmm I can sorta see 'em in Mizar but I think the Parasites are sort of a nice warm up to snipers really O.O

minelayers would just murder everything insight haha, poor antarans wouldn't stand a chance :O
 

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pbhuh said:
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What would be great is just add some mantis with sniper blasters, or minelayers.

They don't have do to so much damage as in draconis but it would be fun to introduce the defender and sniper weapons out there.
Sniper and minelayers in Antares? Hmm I can sorta see 'em in Mizar but I think the Parasites are sort of a nice warm up to snipers really O.O

minelayers would just murder everything insight haha, poor antarans wouldn't stand a chance :O
True, but some mantis can really be replaced, like frenzoids by pyros, and barbarians by detonators.
 

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What would be great is just add some mantis with sniper blasters, or minelayers.

They don't have do to so much damage as in draconis but it would be fun to introduce the defender and sniper weapons out there.
Sniper and minelayers in Antares? Hmm I can sorta see 'em in Mizar but I think the Parasites are sort of a nice warm up to snipers really O.O

minelayers would just murder everything insight haha, poor antarans wouldn't stand a chance :O
True, but some mantis can really be replaced, like frenzoids by pyros, and barbarians by detonators.
Also true, but I still don't see the point to it, I'd say the planets need a change, the story mission needs to be maybe a little more in synch with the rest of the game though it would probably be ok to leave the SMs as they are for the most part, turrets should be put into the Antares system since they're already in Vega.

Plus if you replace those mantis the way you say then you also have to add in the 8th slot for teh Antares class ships. I think that's best kept in Gemini because it serves as a good warm up for new pilot to using all of the sub-systems.
 

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CtMurphy said:
pbhuh said:
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pbhuh said:
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What would be great is just add some mantis with sniper blasters, or minelayers.

They don't have do to so much damage as in draconis but it would be fun to introduce the defender and sniper weapons out there.
Sniper and minelayers in Antares? Hmm I can sorta see 'em in Mizar but I think the Parasites are sort of a nice warm up to snipers really O.O

minelayers would just murder everything insight haha, poor antarans wouldn't stand a chance :O
True, but some mantis can really be replaced, like frenzoids by pyros, and barbarians by detonators.
Also true, but I still don't see the point to it, I'd say the planets need a change, the story mission needs to be maybe a little more in synch with the rest of the game though it would probably be ok to leave the SMs as they are for the most part, turrets should be put into the Antares system since they're already in Vega.

Plus if you replace those mantis the way you say then you also have to add in the 8th slot for teh Antares class ships. I think that's best kept in Gemini because it serves as a good warm up for new pilot to using all of the sub-systems.
You don't need the 8th slot in antares even if weapons from higher systems are used. Basicly I like the draconis system much more, earlier on Detonators dropped 3 blueprints, in Draconis it could almost be 4, but there the minelayer takes over the role of aggrobeacon dropper and attack drone the one of taunt.
 
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True, but some mantis can really be replaced, like frenzoids by pyros, and barbarians by detonators.
I don't see the point why they should be replaced, they are typical Antares Mantis, and they are new for players from Vega.

Try to think of your ideas in the point of view of the players who are really new to Antares, and not from your point of view when you are a Draconis player.

Antares would lost their typical all around view and feel if you would remove Antares specific mantis.

Leave the Mantis to be where they are due, and leave Draconis mantis and mines to Draconis, they are not needed to make a difficult planet even more difficult for the newbs in this game.

The makeover is not done for only your enjoyment, but for the players who rightfully move around there.
I want to see Antares new players comments on this.
I bet they would like to have a slap around to all these ideas what would really increase the difficulty for them there, and to them who wrote these ideas, I would in their shoes.
 

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Adrana said:
True, but some mantis can really be replaced, like frenzoids by pyros, and barbarians by detonators.
I don't see the point why they should be replaced, they are typical Antares Mantis, and they are new for players from Vega.

Try to think of your ideas in the point of view of the players who are really new to Antares, and not from your point of view when you are a Draconis player.

Antares would lost their typical all around view and feel if you would remove Antares specific mantis.

Leave the Mantis to be where they are due, and leave Draconis mantis and mines to Draconis, they are not needed to make a difficult planet even more difficult for the newbs in this game.

The makeover is not done for only your enjoyment, but for the players who rightfully move around there.
I want to see Antares new players comments on this.
I bet they would like to have a slap around to all these ideas what would really increase the difficulty for them there, and to them who wrote these ideas, I would in their shoes.
Yeah, you are right, but its sad to see the barbarians and frenzoids get removed in gemini. Same counts for the Sentinel and Marauder Commanders from aurora.

I would love to see a list a little like this:

Blaster - Avenger, Frenzoid?, Sentinel?
Collector - Harvesters
Repair Droid - Parasite, Sentinel?
Afterburner - Interceptor, Frenzoid?
Rockets - Rocket Turret, Rocketeers
Aim Computer - Rocket Turret, Rocketeers
Perforator - Parasite
Speed Actuator - Frenzoid
Stun Charge - Custodian Commander
Aggrobeacon - Barbarian
Shield - Marauder
Taunt - Barbarian
Aim Scrambler - Avenger
Repair Target - Mender, Repogrub?
Protector - Custodian Commander, Repogrub?
Repair Field - Mender
 

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pbhuh said:
CtMurphy said:
pbhuh said:
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What would be great is just add some mantis with sniper blasters, or minelayers.

They don't have do to so much damage as in draconis but it would be fun to introduce the defender and sniper weapons out there.
Sniper and minelayers in Antares? Hmm I can sorta see 'em in Mizar but I think the Parasites are sort of a nice warm up to snipers really O.O

minelayers would just murder everything insight haha, poor antarans wouldn't stand a chance :O
True, but some mantis can really be replaced, like frenzoids by pyros, and barbarians by detonators.
If you think about it the frenzoids are replaced by pyros and the barbarians are replaced by detonators right now
 

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selkath said:
pbhuh said:
CtMurphy said:
pbhuh said:
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What would be great is just add some mantis with sniper blasters, or minelayers.

They don't have do to so much damage as in draconis but it would be fun to introduce the defender and sniper weapons out there.
Sniper and minelayers in Antares? Hmm I can sorta see 'em in Mizar but I think the Parasites are sort of a nice warm up to snipers really O.O

minelayers would just murder everything insight haha, poor antarans wouldn't stand a chance :O
True, but some mantis can really be replaced, like frenzoids by pyros, and barbarians by detonators.
If you think about it the frenzoids are replaced by pyros and the barbarians are replaced by detonators right now
Yeah I know, look at my latest post.
 

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What we all need, I mean what we really are gonna need; everyone knows what it is a grinding system guys! With just harvs and mantis that drop +70 cry I say r 35 to the max rank mantis it should be like 4-6 planets something huge but very nice cus U all know Draconis! and even sol and parsecs it's just using up the fun at this game! come on about no one is pvping anymore cus they loss to much cry, and get less cry then ever before draconis gives same armount of cry as sol 0.o forget Antares help the high rankers before we leave dammit >.<

the new system should be of a cry drop of 150-1500 cry from mantis I say huge ships drop 1500 cry highest rank!

4-6 planets 17-20 grinding spots each! this must happen when a server get's 1000 players or we all gonna leave guys think of it 150-200 players at draconis and 150-200 at sol to and want to grind? 0.o baumar, molikar, mars, the moon or earth not gonna help!?
 

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What we all need, I mean what we really are gonna need; everyone knows what it is a grinding system guys! With just harvs and mantis that drop +70 cry I say r 35 to the max rank mantis it should be like 4-6 planets something huge but very nice cus U all know Draconis! and even sol and parsecs it's just using up the fun at this game! come on about no one is pvping anymore cus they loss to much cry, and get less cry then ever before draconis gives same armount of cry as sol 0.o forget Antares help the high rankers before we leave dammit >.<

the new system should be of a cry drop of 150-1500 cry from mantis I say huge ships drop 1500 cry highest rank!

4-6 planets 17-20 grinding spots each! this must happen when a server get's 1000 players or we all gonna leave guys think of it 150-200 players at draconis and 150-200 at sol to and want to grind? 0.o baumar, molikar, mars, the moon or earth not gonna help!?
Antares needs an make over, its the system where noobs get stuck in, its the system that doesn't fit into the game anymore. If PG was a puzzle, then Antares was a piece that wouldn't fit in between Vega and Gemini.
 

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What we all need, I mean what we really are gonna need; everyone knows what it is a grinding system guys! With just harvs and mantis that drop +70 cry I say r 35 to the max rank mantis it should be like 4-6 planets something huge but very nice cus U all know Draconis! and even sol and parsecs it's just using up the fun at this game! come on about no one is pvping anymore cus they loss to much cry, and get less cry then ever before draconis gives same armount of cry as sol 0.o forget Antares help the high rankers before we leave dammit >.<

the new system should be of a cry drop of 150-1500 cry from mantis I say huge ships drop 1500 cry highest rank!

4-6 planets 17-20 grinding spots each! this must happen when a server get's 1000 players or we all gonna leave guys think of it 150-200 players at draconis and 150-200 at sol to and want to grind? 0.o baumar, molikar, mars, the moon or earth not gonna help!?
Antares needs an make over, its the system where noobs get stuck in, its the system that doesn't fit into the game anymore. If PG was a puzzle, then Antares was a piece that wouldn't fit in between Vega and Gemini.

well antares is bad I got help to do sm from the higher sol player just 7 times rest was with me as an noob and rest of the noobs but it was hard but I didn't get one thing it's even at sol dammit! ppl who don't get to do stuff 0.o

and what I right did say is true to guys wanna share a grinding spot with 50 ppl 0.o
 

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ridoi said:
pbhuh said:
ridoi said:
What we all need, I mean what we really are gonna need; everyone knows what it is a grinding system guys! With just harvs and mantis that drop +70 cry I say r 35 to the max rank mantis it should be like 4-6 planets something huge but very nice cus U all know Draconis! and even sol and parsecs it's just using up the fun at this game! come on about no one is pvping anymore cus they loss to much cry, and get less cry then ever before draconis gives same armount of cry as sol 0.o forget Antares help the high rankers before we leave dammit >.<

the new system should be of a cry drop of 150-1500 cry from mantis I say huge ships drop 1500 cry highest rank!

4-6 planets 17-20 grinding spots each! this must happen when a server get's 1000 players or we all gonna leave guys think of it 150-200 players at draconis and 150-200 at sol to and want to grind? 0.o baumar, molikar, mars, the moon or earth not gonna help!?
Antares needs an make over, its the system where noobs get stuck in, its the system that doesn't fit into the game anymore. If PG was a puzzle, then Antares was a piece that wouldn't fit in between Vega and Gemini.

well antares is bad I got help to do sm from the higher sol player just 7 times rest was with me as an noob and rest of the noobs but it was hard but I didn't get one thing it's even at sol dammit! ppl who don't get to do stuff 0.o

and what I right did say is true to guys wanna share a grinding spot with 50 ppl 0.o
But i think they should open up Neptune and Uranus for the grainding. Because only sol and draconis players need an grainding place.
 

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pbhuh said:
ridoi said:
pbhuh said:
ridoi said:
What we all need, I mean what we really are gonna need; everyone knows what it is a grinding system guys! With just harvs and mantis that drop +70 cry I say r 35 to the max rank mantis it should be like 4-6 planets something huge but very nice cus U all know Draconis! and even sol and parsecs it's just using up the fun at this game! come on about no one is pvping anymore cus they loss to much cry, and get less cry then ever before draconis gives same armount of cry as sol 0.o forget Antares help the high rankers before we leave dammit >.<

the new system should be of a cry drop of 150-1500 cry from mantis I say huge ships drop 1500 cry highest rank!

4-6 planets 17-20 grinding spots each! this must happen when a server get's 1000 players or we all gonna leave guys think of it 150-200 players at draconis and 150-200 at sol to and want to grind? 0.o baumar, molikar, mars, the moon or earth not gonna help!?
Antares needs an make over, its the system where noobs get stuck in, its the system that doesn't fit into the game anymore. If PG was a puzzle, then Antares was a piece that wouldn't fit in between Vega and Gemini.

well antares is bad I got help to do sm from the higher sol player just 7 times rest was with me as an noob and rest of the noobs but it was hard but I didn't get one thing it's even at sol dammit! ppl who don't get to do stuff 0.o

and what I right did say is true to guys wanna share a grinding spot with 50 ppl 0.o
But i think they should open up Neptune and Uranus for the grainding. Because only sol and draconis players need an grainding place.
true... but why we gonna grind at a gas planet but the ice planet is ok for me :p will just get an sweater xD

P.S: pbhuh just so i knwo U can't get cry at a planets with winds up to 2000 km/h and there is no cry xD
 

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ridoi said:
pbhuh said:
ridoi said:
pbhuh said:
ridoi said:
What we all need, I mean what we really are gonna need; everyone knows what it is a grinding system guys! With just harvs and mantis that drop +70 cry I say r 35 to the max rank mantis it should be like 4-6 planets something huge but very nice cus U all know Draconis! and even sol and parsecs it's just using up the fun at this game! come on about no one is pvping anymore cus they loss to much cry, and get less cry then ever before draconis gives same armount of cry as sol 0.o forget Antares help the high rankers before we leave dammit >.<

the new system should be of a cry drop of 150-1500 cry from mantis I say huge ships drop 1500 cry highest rank!

4-6 planets 17-20 grinding spots each! this must happen when a server get's 1000 players or we all gonna leave guys think of it 150-200 players at draconis and 150-200 at sol to and want to grind? 0.o baumar, molikar, mars, the moon or earth not gonna help!?
Antares needs an make over, its the system where noobs get stuck in, its the system that doesn't fit into the game anymore. If PG was a puzzle, then Antares was a piece that wouldn't fit in between Vega and Gemini.

well antares is bad I got help to do sm from the higher sol player just 7 times rest was with me as an noob and rest of the noobs but it was hard but I didn't get one thing it's even at sol dammit! ppl who don't get to do stuff 0.o

and what I right did say is true to guys wanna share a grinding spot with 50 ppl 0.o
But i think they should open up Neptune and Uranus for the grainding. Because only sol and draconis players need an grainding place.
true... but why we gonna grind at a gas planet but the ice planet is ok for me :p will just get an sweater xD

P.S: pbhuh just so i knwo U can't get cry at a planets with winds up to 2000 km/h and there is no cry xD
In the rings of it and you could collect the gas.
 

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In the rings of it and you could collect the gas.
I did read about the gas of Neptune someone say it's core is ice cold but no one is sure about that and gas should really freeze at the part of sol system the planet is but u know the sky is going at speed up to 2000 km/h max as i did say earlier
 

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Exactly Adrana you hit the nail on the head wth that one, thankyou.

and yes Pbhuh Antares does need a make over that's why I made the thread :D

how about removing the second armour from Antares and making it a Gemini tech instead? it would help the new guys and galls out esspecially cuz I thnk the 2nd armour is th biggest thing that makes Antares sucky for the newbs. You have to spend ages just grinding for the armours in Antares. It would be much better to have just the first armour in Antares and tehn introduce it into the Gemini system, and obviousls weaken the mantis weaponary in Antares to counter it.

Also the costs need a desperate adjustmant, best teach on Vega is roughly 3-5 hundred, best tech in Antares about 1,000 - 2,500 and in Gemini it's about the same and I'm not including rares so Antares really doesn't fit in financially.

I think the story missions could do with tweaking but mostly they're ok as they are. make a few more SMs in Antares though.

Change the graphics of Antares to match that of Gemini or Mizar at least.

The mantis are absolutely fine how and where they are though they seriously need to stop climbing over mountains and through inanimate objects (but that's more of a gamewide thing rather than just antares).
I'd also say it would be good to intruduce turrets into Antares but only because they are already in Vega. Or maybe make up an SM that explains WHY there are no turrets in Antares.

that's all for now. Tell me what ya think guys and galls.
 

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Exactly Adrana you hit the nail on the head wth that one, thankyou.

and yes Pbhuh Antares does need a make over that's why I made the thread :D

how about removing the second armour from Antares and making it a Gemini tech instead? it would help the new guys and galls out esspecially cuz I thnk the 2nd armour is th biggest thing that makes Antares sucky for the newbs. You have to spend ages just grinding for the armours in Antares. It would be much better to have just the first armour in Antares and tehn introduce it into the Gemini system, and obviousls weaken the mantis weaponary in Antares to counter it.

Also the costs need a desperate adjustmant, best teach on Vega is roughly 3-5 hundred, best tech in Antares about 1,000 - 2,500 and in Gemini it's about the same and I'm not including rares so Antares really doesn't fit in financially.

I think the story missions could do with tweaking but mostly they're ok as they are. make a few more SMs in Antares though.

Change the graphics of Antares to match that of Gemini or Mizar at least.

The mantis are absolutely fine how and where they are though they seriously need to stop climbing over mountains and through inanimate objects (but that's more of a gamewide thing rather than just antares).
I'd also say it would be good to intruduce turrets into Antares but only because they are already in Vega. Or maybe make up an SM that explains WHY there are no turrets in Antares.

that's all for now. Tell me what ya think guys and galls.
I would say that the graphics should match atleast Vega/Draconis maybe even better.Think about it, if they could make lustra like Mantis Hive/Gazica then it would be awesome.

For the missions, please add like 40/50 missions, in that should be included:

* Going from Vega to Antares in a much more noob-friendly way
* Getting atleast rank 18 and get enough cryonite to buy a full armored ship, in your idea Thermograde.
* Getting enough time and a more noob-friendly way to find new blueprints
* Lock Lustra from the beginning
* Getting from Antares to Gemini with enough cryonite so that noobs do not get stuck in Gemini.

For the normal game i would say: Give us a full sell if we sell weapons so we can upgrade them more fair.
 

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pbhuh said:
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Exactly Adrana you hit the nail on the head wth that one, thankyou.

and yes Pbhuh Antares does need a make over that's why I made the thread :D

how about removing the second armour from Antares and making it a Gemini tech instead? it would help the new guys and galls out esspecially cuz I thnk the 2nd armour is th biggest thing that makes Antares sucky for the newbs. You have to spend ages just grinding for the armours in Antares. It would be much better to have just the first armour in Antares and tehn introduce it into the Gemini system, and obviousls weaken the mantis weaponary in Antares to counter it.

Also the costs need a desperate adjustmant, best teach on Vega is roughly 3-5 hundred, best tech in Antares about 1,000 - 2,500 and in Gemini it's about the same and I'm not including rares so Antares really doesn't fit in financially.

I think the story missions could do with tweaking but mostly they're ok as they are. make a few more SMs in Antares though.

Change the graphics of Antares to match that of Gemini or Mizar at least.

The mantis are absolutely fine how and where they are though they seriously need to stop climbing over mountains and through inanimate objects (but that's more of a gamewide thing rather than just antares).
I'd also say it would be good to intruduce turrets into Antares but only because they are already in Vega. Or maybe make up an SM that explains WHY there are no turrets in Antares.

that's all for now. Tell me what ya think guys and galls.
I would say that the graphics should match atleast Vega/Draconis maybe even better.Think about it, if they could make lustra like Mantis Hive/Gazica then it would be awesome.

For the missions, please add like 40/50 missions, in that should be included:

* Going from Vega to Antares in a much more noob-friendly way
* Getting atleast rank 18 and get enough cryonite to buy a full armored ship, in your idea Thermograde.
* Getting enough time and a more noob-friendly way to find new blueprints
* Lock Lustra from the beginning
* Getting from Antares to Gemini with enough cryonite so that noobs do not get stuck in Gemini.

For the normal game i would say: Give us a full sell if we sell weapons so we can upgrade them more fair.

last one never gonna happen trust me
 

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ridoi said:
pbhuh said:
CtMurphy said:
Exactly Adrana you hit the nail on the head wth that one, thankyou.

and yes Pbhuh Antares does need a make over that's why I made the thread :D

how about removing the second armour from Antares and making it a Gemini tech instead? it would help the new guys and galls out esspecially cuz I thnk the 2nd armour is th biggest thing that makes Antares sucky for the newbs. You have to spend ages just grinding for the armours in Antares. It would be much better to have just the first armour in Antares and tehn introduce it into the Gemini system, and obviousls weaken the mantis weaponary in Antares to counter it.

Also the costs need a desperate adjustmant, best teach on Vega is roughly 3-5 hundred, best tech in Antares about 1,000 - 2,500 and in Gemini it's about the same and I'm not including rares so Antares really doesn't fit in financially.

I think the story missions could do with tweaking but mostly they're ok as they are. make a few more SMs in Antares though.

Change the graphics of Antares to match that of Gemini or Mizar at least.

The mantis are absolutely fine how and where they are though they seriously need to stop climbing over mountains and through inanimate objects (but that's more of a gamewide thing rather than just antares).
I'd also say it would be good to intruduce turrets into Antares but only because they are already in Vega. Or maybe make up an SM that explains WHY there are no turrets in Antares.

that's all for now. Tell me what ya think guys and galls.
I would say that the graphics should match atleast Vega/Draconis maybe even better.Think about it, if they could make lustra like Mantis Hive/Gazica then it would be awesome.

For the missions, please add like 40/50 missions, in that should be included:

* Going from Vega to Antares in a much more noob-friendly way
* Getting atleast rank 18 and get enough cryonite to buy a full armored ship, in your idea Thermograde.
* Getting enough time and a more noob-friendly way to find new blueprints
* Lock Lustra from the beginning
* Getting from Antares to Gemini with enough cryonite so that noobs do not get stuck in Gemini.

For the normal game i would say: Give us a full sell if we sell weapons so we can upgrade them more fair.

last one never gonna happen trust me
I know, but they should make it, because thats the only thing that doesn't fit in. There are tech missions, we have to find new technology and fit it to our ships, but PG only promotes to fit the best tech, otherwise you loose to many cryonite. Please give us full refund for weapons. I beg you pg.
 

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Full agree with pbhuh above there.

Altough, i find it a bit mean to say that Antares is a puzzle piece that doesn't fit into PG. from my point of view, it's all the other pieces that doesn't, because earlier, by the days of Antares and old Vega... sure, we had lousy graphics, the story was a little dull... but the feel was PG-ish! Unlike any other game. It's so sad that this disappeared, and i am sure that you can make a new ''modern'' Antares with the same feel.
 
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