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Hallo there

I want answers now, not only me(we asked earlier, but no proper replay), but many many more people. I'll start with the basics.

Who told you guys to nerf the repair droid, it's so bad, have you seen the sol one for the r60 ships? a tank can't fully heal, what's that about? Even a the Mizar tank, not the mention it's rare version which has 25% more armor, none of them can fully heal. No don't tell me you just made armor increase hp increase, I didn't notice, even if it's done then you could simply increase the Mobs dmg.
Increase the repair power at system like vega, mizar, sol, draconis. To balance it. OK, that's what I think

Now over to nerfing the ships itself, shall we start with the sniper then.
It got nerfed so many times, lost counting, now it's barely a popular ship anymore, you can't see sniper pilots. Most of the reason cus to many complain about the ship, then rather buying! and when a sniper pods them they whine, since they can't use one so good.

Now from draconis there hp is so low, they die so easily, when i did try pvp then, even with meth armor, a sniper could die so fast, it had barely any chance. You needed almost to be a pro to crush a another good storm/tank/stunner pilot if you're a sniper (like me! :eek: ). Increase the snipers hp, it's to low, in sol times the sniper was pretty balanced, it had the x2 hit, great for grinding, but you could easily avoid it in any pvp. I tried all ships in sol, even in a engineer i crushed a snipers, and in sniper i crushed any ships, and that counts all ships. Don't need to increase it's firepower, it already got nerved, it's no point anymore. increase it's hp.

I know it's not just the sniper, the storm has also been nerved, if i remember right it was when sol came out, but it wasn't that much either, now then the defender, yes the ship you can notice the most, as a result almost none uses it :| , how will you fix that, why ruin a popular ship?


Now now the cry drop, could you guys give us a break please, please? it's already low how we gonna grind, even in my sol sniper i can't grind well, drops awful, and it get's worse... in draconis you almost never see a cry drop, no not there yet, in sirius it's ridiculous, a mob to kill which takes maybe 4-5 min to kill with 3 guys, then no cry, try that for the last 4 hours? increase the drop rate, and you must rly increase the drop rate in sirius, to balance the time it takes to kill it.


I heard stuff in pg got nerved for balancing stuff, then why is it so unbalanced now?
 
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Okay ridoi, I suggest you will check on your use of words, I do not see how, and what a nerv has to do with this whole issue.
It has no relation to what you are writing about.
I strongly suggest you to search web for the correct use of words.


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ops i spelled wrong meant nerf, lol sry ^^ NERF means weaken
 

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LOL (lots off laughter).

i got ur message Ridoi. I think it is a pretty difficult job to figure out HP's of ships and power off equippement. And in the end, there will always be pilots complaining about it.

NERV, a fictional organization in the Neon Genesis Evangelion franchise > HILARIOUS. Thank you for that one Adrana ;-).

Greetz ,

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Your welcome Defcon, I myself had some fun reading the post first time, I thought whats a fun way to correct a word whats not related at all to what ridoi wanted us to read.

Well I thank you ridoi for correcting
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Ohh now I feel like a fool :oops: . teehee :LOL:
 

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You are no fool Ridoi. At least I think you are not and I wasn't makin fun of you m8.

I think you are right. You get a ship get used to it and then it gets rebalanced. Or something new comes out and your very powerfull, well armoured trophy ship suddenly feels like a paper dart. I know it because i have that beautiful Parsec Storm. At the moment I get shredded as soon as one of those square boxes that drop Quarks LOOKS at me. And be very carefull with Sol pilots and their Draconis waeponry. Very dangerous !

I got a tip though. Whenever i get really dissapointed about my Parsec. I go to hangar. Give it a new paintjob. Then i go to Vega system to Axiom or something like that. Just float there a bit, say hi and wait till the small guys go 'OOOOH, WOOOW, THat is a COOOOL ship etc etc etc'. It makes me feel great. Parsec might be a Ferrari with a 1.1 bleumotion engine in it. It's still a Ferrari. Whahahha

Cya

Greetz Defcon
 

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This is so ridiculous, almost unbelievable. Is there any game in the entire internet, which gives this, yes grinding for hours to hours. I have never played any game which require such huge amounts of waste. Does the devs know how long it does take to grind freakin' 1 million cryonite? I wish i could swear, and say what i think about it, but I don't wanna get banned ;).

The thing i want to know is, who told the devs it was easy to get cryonite? Yes some make over 100k cry, wow 100k cryo, how many hours does that take? Some even waste 10 hours in theg ame, just to grind barely 100k cryo, this is just .... I am not sure but even with the booster you can't grind well, and what's the point on grinding none stop... This is the game where you must at list waste days of online time, to just get a draconis ship. Someone should seriously call the police, and make ppl stop grinding for such a logn time, it's not healthy! If i am not wrong PG before more like you know that fantasy game where ppl spend more then 6 hours a day.

I don't get why people bother playing this game, I don't know why i play this game, but for i know for each lousy update i take breaks lasting months from the game.

Why is this game so ridiculous now? Why is it just farming for cryo, why, why, why must we spend more then 10 horus to get barely 100k cryonite, what's wrong with the devs, test your own game, for gods sake, honestly?!?!?

If this keeps up eventually this game will shut down, and you got none to blame then your self, for trying this game. I came here when the beta started, it was fun, i got many buddies, they were nice. then suddenly, out of no where.

Rating the lousy new feature in game, which made properly hundreds leave the game.
We're gonna reduce the cry drop so you guys get less cry and waste hours in this game. Now even in lower system and in high system, you get crapy cry, enjoy this game, and I hope you stop playing PG.

We gonna implant this new feature, which will make most likely more leave the game. Now we'll tell you guys , that we increase the armor on each ship, we're gonna confuse you everyone that we increase the armor or not, but in same time we might increase the fire power of the mobs, you might never know, mwuhaha! therefor we make the repair droid geatly weaker, it'll become worthless almost! mwuahaha

draconis, we're gonna make some mobs have more range then a normal sb, so be careful and you gonna die :D.

Sirius... we gonna make ships which is so weak, and mobs hp 1000 times stronger then yours, mwuhahaha!

we're gonna give you a even more events, now prepare to waste mroe time, since we're not telling you if it's bad or not, mwuhaha!

we're gonna give you this event, which is so hard, you'll need to buy cry vault, and you must have membership, or wait you can buy the ship for around 100.000 gold

there is more, if none shoots the mob it'll use magic and repair to 100%, wait this is was not in the previous events, but now it is, die you noobs! mwuhaha



Yes this is the theory I think they thought of... what you guys think?



try to not delete this post, it's true honestly, and no swear word, shouldn't harm so much to say my meaning?
 

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Hey Hey Ridoi,

Calm down m8. I recognize your frustration. It's simple.

The old game is gone. Accept it.
The new game means you can get to the best stuff en best ships, but you need to spend a lot off time in the game and you need help. You cannot play alone. You also need membership and gold to get stuff. Simple.

Now you either like it and stay and follow the stream. Or you leave. Somehow Splitscreen thinks this is the best way to make money. They aim for a group customers that like repetition and have time enough. I don't agree, but i am just ONE user / customer. I don't have enough time to get to the good stuff. I accept that and just play a bit and have a laugh on raidcall. If there was no raidcall or TS, i would have never come back.

What really surprises me is that I never hear a singel positive comment from players about the sirius system and yet still hordes keep going there, shooting and grinding. That can only mean that Splitscreen knows exactly what they are doing and enough people pay for the game. So I am wrong, the game is perfect as it is and all the boredom, repitition and frustration is meant to be. A large group of people pay for that. They pay for this alternative reality. Hell, I pay for it.

BUT, no one forces you to log in or pay. (well, maybe you force yourself, it's called game-addiction)

Don't take it so siriusly ;-) Have laugh and leave befor you get frustrated.

Greetz Defcon
 

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They get well feed(SS S), but i in the short period of bad new feature, i lost to many buddies (more then i want to remember). I needed to switch clan, since they brook apart, you can now see so many more clans, i suppose it was cus of sirius... well I want to say this I'd rather play with 10.000 players. then playing with 800 ppl so rarely bother to come and charge on meh...

If this game shut down, hope someone might take over :sneaky: , but I do not want that though :cry:
 
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If my memory is not letting me alone the great times of farming did disapear from the release of Sol...

I know the times where it was easy doable to farm around 15 - 20k per hour at Lustra, yeah Lustra it was the absolute Farmingsystem for much pilots which wanted to have the Parsec from Mizar on cause it was available there and no Cryo penelaty was given to any mob or any equipment of your ship. The Cryo rate was everytime the same. If you have killed around 20 mobs you could say 10 - 15 of them droped at least an Cryo.

I know much Pilots which have farmed an Parsec on Lustra whit fair usage and whitout of having the Chance to buy an Ultimate Membership. In the old farming times only an Memberships was for Gold Available which had maximumed the Energystorage x2, x4 or x6 (if i remeber it now right). Split did tried one time an Cryopenelaty if your Level is x higher then the Level of Mantis up to 50% lower Cryonite. They removed it cause much Pilots did go against this new feature.

Well now did Sol come out and much things did change from one moment to another what only did happened (which is my thinking and not my belive) cause to much players had already an Parsec Split thought they could lower the Cryorate so that not much more Parsecs will come. Well Sol was over and Pilots had massive time to farm again while others, sadly have used the time to Hack the game and give themselfs Cryos to buy an Parsec whit full armor and equip of Sol... also this days are well known as the "Parsec Afair days" or "Hall of Shame day" (last one is to find here http://forum.pirategalaxy.com/viewtopic.php?f=292&t=941#p5411)

Well Sol was now finaly overfarmed and some new Parsecs did appear whit fairly used methods already after the Parsec mess which was brought. Draconis needed to come out but what should they do to stop the enormous ammount of Cryonite... the easiest way was to quadruple the prices of Items and the new ships + lowering the Cryodroprate again. Well the last final step which Split did bring then out was the "Chance of double drops" which finaly breaked the lines of farming and maked it more difficult to farm efficent.

Like i said this are my thinkings about the farming theory not anything against Split or the Devs. If there anything should be what is not to compare whit the CoC of the Forum the CMs are allowed to change parts.
 
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ridoi said:
This is so ridiculous, almost unbelievable. Is there any game in the entire internet, which gives this, yes grinding for hours to hours. I have never played any game which require such huge amounts of waste. Does the devs know how long it does take to grind freakin' 1 million cryonite? I wish i could swear, and say what i think about it, but I don't wanna get banned ;).

The thing i want to know is, who told the devs it was easy to get cryonite? Yes some make over 100k cry, wow 100k cryo, how many hours does that take? Some even waste 10 hours in theg ame, just to grind barely 100k cryo, this is just .... I am not sure but even with the booster you can't grind well, and what's the point on grinding none stop... This is the game where you must at list waste days of online time, to just get a draconis ship. Someone should seriously call the police, and make ppl stop grinding for such a logn time, it's not healthy! If i am not wrong PG before more like you know that fantasy game where ppl spend more then 6 hours a day.

I don't get why people bother playing this game, I don't know why i play this game, but for i know for each lousy update i take breaks lasting months from the game.

Why is this game so ridiculous now? Why is it just farming for cryo, why, why, why must we spend more then 10 horus to get barely 100k cryonite, what's wrong with the devs, test your own game, for gods sake, honestly?!?!?

If this keeps up eventually this game will shut down, and you got none to blame then your self, for trying this game. I came here when the beta started, it was fun, i got many buddies, they were nice. then suddenly, out of no where.

Rating the lousy new feature in game, which made properly hundreds leave the game.
We're gonna reduce the cry drop so you guys get less cry and waste hours in this game. Now even in lower system and in high system, you get crapy cry, enjoy this game, and I hope you stop playing PG.

We gonna implant this new feature, which will make most likely more leave the game. Now we'll tell you guys , that we increase the armor on each ship, we're gonna confuse you everyone that we increase the armor or not, but in same time we might increase the fire power of the mobs, you might never know, mwuhaha! therefor we make the repair droid geatly weaker, it'll become worthless almost! mwuahaha

draconis, we're gonna make some mobs have more range then a normal sb, so be careful and you gonna die :D.

Sirius... we gonna make ships which is so weak, and mobs hp 1000 times stronger then yours, mwuhahaha!

we're gonna give you a even more events, now prepare to waste mroe time, since we're not telling you if it's bad or not, mwuhaha!

we're gonna give you this event, which is so hard, you'll need to buy cry vault, and you must have membership, or wait you can buy the ship for around 100.000 gold

there is more, if none shoots the mob it'll use magic and repair to 100%, wait this is was not in the previous events, but now it is, die you noobs! mwuhaha



Yes this is the theory I think they thought of... what you guys think?



try to not delete this post, it's true honestly, and no swear word, shouldn't harm so much to say my meaning?
agree 101% you got it so right mate well said and well put
 

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Ramirez said:
If my memory is not letting me alone the great times of farming did disapear from the release of Sol...

I know the times where it was easy doable to farm around 15 - 20k per hour at Lustra, yeah Lustra it was the absolute Farmingsystem for much pilots which wanted to have the Parsec from Mizar on cause it was available there and no Cryo penelaty was given to any mob or any equipment of your ship. The Cryo rate was everytime the same. If you have killed around 20 mobs you could say 10 - 15 of them droped at least an Cryo.

I know much Pilots which have farmed an Parsec on Lustra whit fair usage and whitout of having the Chance to buy an Ultimate Membership. In the old farming times only an Memberships was for Gold Available which had maximumed the Energystorage x2, x4 or x6 (if i remeber it now right). Split did tried one time an Cryopenelaty if your Level is x higher then the Level of Mantis up to 50% lower Cryonite. They removed it cause much Pilots did go against this new feature.

Well now did Sol come out and much things did change from one moment to another what only did happened (which is my thinking and not my belive) cause to much players had already an Parsec Split thought they could lower the Cryorate so that not much more Parsecs will come. Well Sol was over and Pilots had massive time to farm again while others, sadly have used the time to Hack the game and give themselfs Cryos to buy an Parsec whit full armor and equip of Sol... also this days are well known as the "Parsec Afair days" or "Hall of Shame day" (last one is to find here http://forum.pirategalaxy.com/viewtopic.php?f=292&t=941#p5411)

Well Sol was now finaly overfarmed and some new Parsecs did appear whit fairly used methods already after the Parsec mess which was brought. Draconis needed to come out but what should they do to stop the enormous ammount of Cryonite... the easiest way was to quadruple the prices of Items and the new ships + lowering the Cryodroprate again. Well the last final step which Split did bring then out was the "Chance of double drops" which finaly breaked the lines of farming and maked it more difficult to farm efficent.

Like i said this are my thinkings about the farming theory not anything against Split or the Devs. If there anything should be what is not to compare whit the CoC of the Forum the CMs are allowed to change parts.

I must agree in some point, but you see, the drop balance is just to even now, yeah the story of ppl hacking parsec hasn't much to do how to get cryonite... but i know this, there are more with parsec now then before, before the cryo drop was nice, now it is lame, but ppl still grind... I am not sure why it's reduced so low.

This is what i have encountered, I went to mars, in a sol sniper, shooting hars, after using 10k e, and who knows how long, i barely made 2k cryonite...
 

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2k cryonite with 10k energy with sol tech on Mars, that was lont time awerage drop rate (for me) when I did such a grinding last time without membership. That means droprate is same like it was over ~1½ year ago (imo).

And yet you guys complain when you just happen to have little bit bad day with crys...
 

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MrDarkman said:
2k cryonite with 10k energy with sol tech on Mars, that was lont time awerage drop rate (for me) when I did such a grinding last time without membership. That means droprate is same like it was over ~1½ year ago (imo).

And yet you guys complain when you just happen to have little bit bad day with crys...
I made over 25-30k in less then 1 hour before...
 
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