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things are getting well out of balance and pvp boring there is no skill in pvp now, the ships have too little hp and the weapons are too strong, iv got a sirius armor parsec which is ment to be 20% stronger then the sirius ships yet the standard rare sirius rockets can 1 shot me, what happened to the good old day before draconis when a pvp was down to skill and pvp could last 5 mins not like now where they are over in seconds, splitscreen why did you take away the armors? and before you say the didnt YES THEY DID all the so called armor upgrades give you now is more hp where as before draconis was open we had armor and ships was stronger and pvp is way more fun. We have tested the parsec class ships and we all know you have taken hp off all the ships again cos when you gave us the so called 50% armor/hp boost in the parsec class the drac rare rep target could not fully rep a parsec with sirius armor but guess what now it can so please dont lie too us and say you have to ninga nerfed the parsecs again COS YOU HAVE
 

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there are people with sirius ships on kalgan server and the armour is very bad, actually parsecs have the same armour as those sirius ships, the dominator is the only one that have a good one ( for being a tank ). Other thing is that you bought a parsec ( or any other of those ships ) expecting for devs to make them stronger each time a new system comes out? you were the one that chose to bought that 4 million cryonite waste ship.....
 
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its not the fact of how weak the parsec is, it how weak all the ships are compared to the power of the weapons in sirius. They said the parsec class got 50% hp boost but then they took it away or some of it, if you knew the game before draconis opened you will have know splitscreen changed the armor and how it was made worse, rabbiting on to me that iv got a parsec and its my own fault is off topic as the post clearly stats weapon power vs ship hp not parsec hp now move along please, and many moons ago in sol just before draconis opened a dev said the parsec class ships will ALWAYS get an upgrade in the next system i believe the devs real name was johnny so YES i do expect them to keep upgrading the parsec class off ship as they said they would
 

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ive got to admit i thought the armour of the parsec with sirius armour was strange me and 4 sol ships with gazica tech killed one and none of use exept the parsec died so considering i only have doloblasters oolyte rep oolyte droid OS and dolo charge even with that i know its not alot but solo i struggle so how is it this parsec we fought seemed weak :L
 

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sirius ships got way to low armor(hp) compared to the weapon's fireforce, no i do not say make the weapons weaker, then it would be so bad i could laugh, cus sirius npc are way to strong to solo, but c'om the hp for sirius ships are way to low...
and Punicher got same hp as a dominator, or very close to it
 
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its not just about the parsec but the power of weapons vs the hp of ships, i can kill a meth armored storm with 1 rocket and 1 blaster shot now thats just silly thats no pvp thats just who ever gets the first shot wins, where as before draconis opened the armor system used to work differently and a good pvp would last 3 to 5 mins not like today where it lasts 10 seconds if your lucky
 

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yes the armor is way to low. My sirius armor parsec can die in 4 shots in the 5th ring. A sirius armor dominator and a meth armor punisher both have same armor, and its the highest armor in the game, yet if a sniper shot gets a criti in the 1st ring it can take it down to half health, i see it happen all the time. A keneyte os or thermo blast or agrobomb can 1 shot kill a 70 ship. so we see there armor is too weak.

But they cant just weaken the tek, as it is, its extreamly weak... take top tek drac blasters ( pulsar blasters ) vs top tek sirius blasters ( keneyte blasters). then go to the previous system strongest planet. pulsar blasters can kill a signor in about 5 shots ( earth ) keneyte blasters on hive takes like 10 or more.
 

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its not just about the parsec but the power of weapons vs the hp of ships, i can kill a meth armored storm with 1 rocket and 1 blaster shot now thats just silly thats no pvp thats just who ever gets the first shot wins, where as before draconis opened the armor system used to work differently and a good pvp would last 3 to 5 mins not like today where it lasts 10 seconds if your lucky
i agree the ship armor system is wrong they need to put it back the way it was before drac was out that would make it much better
 

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I suggest this- First increase the hp's on most of the ships, so a crit hit from even a os can't take more then hp 40% of it's hp, 2nd make the parsec class's ships get more hp to, since all ships(dominator doesn't count) got less armor the all ancient ships - by making the armor increase, we'll also need the repair droid stronger. thanks...
 

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I hope you don't mean that they should increase the armour of the 675k ships apart from the dominator because then that would just make it unfair for the domi. :|
 

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Mizar said:
I hope you don't mean that they should increase the armour of the 675k ships apart from the dominator because then that would just make it unfair for the domi. :|
no since there is no sirius normal class ships(I think) then the domi should get some bit more hp to, but not to much either ;)
 

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the dominator is suppose to have higher hp then parsec, its a tank, if they make armor higher, they will make all armor higher for all r50 ships, at the same %, im a parsec pilot, i can kill dominators easy enough already, dnt make it easier^^
 
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i just pvp a sirius myst with sirius acient long os and i cant even get it to half hp before its os 1 shots me for god sake splitscreen do something about the weapos power vs ship strengh, you really are destroying this game your making it worse with every update you do, can you give the running of the game to a dev team that knows what they are doing? stupid things like the top blue hive aim scrambler still makes a parsec with kennyte aim pc miss 70% of its shots you really need to get your act together and work on ship vs weapons balance cos its the worse it has ever been
 

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I don't mind if a sirisu blaster can 1 shoot a META ship, why shouldn't it, it got sirius tech, higher system tech, but this isn't the issue here, the issue is the armor is to low, and firepower is to low to... the firepower is to high for a good pvp, but to low for a good pve...
 
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kennyte blasters are also sirius tech, and if your happy with being 1 shot then your mad the balance in this game so so out of shape at the moment its the worse its ever been
 
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i dont see anything wrong. this issue was early addressed about people shooting down pilots with weaker ships like sol ship shooting down gemini ship in 1 shot - you cant ask SS to balance this or anything else. when you created your account you agreed that SS keeps the rights to modify the game as they see fit.
you want fair pvp? then pvp someone your own size - you fly parsec then pvp parsec ships, or go to CQs - there you will be on equal grounds with others. you dont want to get single shot podded by red players with ancient ships:
- either dont fly red near them, or
- obtain and equip ancient ship.
i'm not someone who fly red often because i'm f2p player, i dont have membership for respawn nor cryo protect therefore i hate refilling, losing cryonite for nothing and having to waste time grinding it back with is boring.

so the only problem here that all will agree on is that sirius tech is weak in player versus environment aka solo pve fights. good clan (good 2-3 squads) will tkill anything in pve too even on 5th ring. sirius is all about teamwork while all systems below it can be cleared solo (except some story missions that are squad based)

>i'm just glad gamigo problems are finally resolved so i can play the game again< :cool:
 
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Whatever said:
i dont see anything wrong. this issue was early addressed about people shooting down pilots with weaker ships like sol ship shooting down gemini ship in 1 shot - you cant ask SS to balance this or anything else. when you created your account you agreed that SS keeps the rights to modify the game as they see fit.
you want fair pvp? then pvp someone your own size - you fly parsec then pvp parsec ships, or go to CQs - there you will be on equal grounds with others. you dont want to get single shot podded by red players with ancient ships:
- either dont fly red near them, or
- obtain and equip ancient ship.
i'm not someone who fly red often because i'm f2p player, i dont have membership for respawn nor cryo protect therefore i hate refilling, losing cryonite for nothing and having to waste time grinding it back with is boring.

so the only problem here that all will agree on is that sirius tech is weak in player versus environment aka solo pve fights. good clan (good 2-3 squads) will tkill anything in pve too even on 5th ring. sirius is all about teamwork while all systems below it can be cleared solo (except some story missions that are squad based)

>i'm just glad gamigo problems are finally resolved so i can play the game again< :cool:
im talking about sirius orbital strike 1 shotting a sirius armored parsec not a draconis ship 1 shotting gemini ship and yes i can ask the devs to sort the balance out, never in this games history has any ship been able to 1 shot another ship from the same system, parsecs are ment to have 20% more hp than the sirius ships yet i cant get a players myst down to half hp before im in a pod and iv got a full kennyte parsec with sirius armor, this is not balance if a sirius parsec can be 1 shot
 

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The rage you're funny, you blame the sniper's items, will u be the 5th ot maybe the 6th to accomplice it, yes, to make the sniper items even weaker... you've forgot the other items, such as aggrobomb, mine, sticky bomb, rocket... all of these items with crit hit or 1 shoot and 1-3 blaster hits kills a myst easily! which got more hp then a parsec, still dies easy...
 
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just shows what you know fool the sirius os can easy 1 shot a parsec you clown if you got your weak joke of a ship out of draconis where you hide all the time you woulds see, and if you read what i said noob i said the hp on the sniper needs to be stronger do you ever listen ?? or you just slow? you know nothing your talking rubbish ask anyone even make a post if sirius os can 1 shot a parsec and you will find as you always are very very wrong
first u shouldn't name call anyone, by doing that u should either get a warning or something... I've read all, and no the sniper doesn't need anymore hp, it's perfectly fine it is atm, it got just slightly less hp then a Stunner. I use most of my time in sirius, so i am no fool asu said earlier, i've actually seen the strong os in action, but if you're referring to the normal ancient os, it can no way 1 shoot a parsec with a normal hit, a strong os can't do that either, just with an critical hit a strong item can do so... no I am not talking rubbish i am saying the truth, which u don't know baout, maybe you got ganged by some sniper or something, and start whining about it like a child, complaining 1 after the other, without to think before the act logic...
its this simple you are wrong both ancient os and strong os can 1 shot a sirius armor parsec, the ancient os needs a crit but the ancient strong could 1 shot 2 parsecs if they was both close enough
 

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OK I'll tell this, ppl will start getting annoyed by u when u just blame there ships items, u should got for all the ships, aggrobomb does same damage as os, it's damage is almost the same, while os can go down and up all the time, you can kill a parsec with strong os and some blaster shots, and that's it, I've seen sniper with strong os, and myst to, i suggest u to keep complainign for them to get stronger, cus it's a normal that it should 1 shoot u, why cus it got same armor as a draco tank, but no it doesn't 1 shoot... try asking for better stuff, x2 times stronger items, 3.5 times more armor etc...
 
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