Update on Immortal mantis

[Delloda]

Ok we figured out what is happening but cracking a fix is puzzle since we are still working out why its happening. More info as i get it!

 

[Toorimakun]

not sure what all info you have on this but i have noticed that some times it is only of of them and the rest can be shot.
some times it seems to be a whole type.
*not completely sure if it is type or all of the mobs (mantis)*

also on the AGE server it is more that your blasters don't fire at all then the mobs (mantis) are immortal.
i press the fire hotkey and it uses e (energy) but no graphics or sounds that would imply that it fired.
*this hasn't happens to me while using my warship so not sure if rockets are effected*

one last thing is that going to orbit and landing seems to fix it.


hope this gives you guys a different point of view to look at the problem on find it... good luck.

 

[Tyrannus]

Whats the age server? o.0

 

[Toorimakun]

oh and another thing that might be the same bug.... some times when collecting the collector will seem to work but once its done the E-cell doesn't go away and you don't get energy.
i am sure this is the same issue... so i would say your looking for a problem with the techs not the mobs (mantis)

um... directly advertising an other server might be against the rules... not that the server will stay online if we don't find a way to get more players interested in the game.

 

[SnowRaven]

Whats the age server? o.0

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[Adrana]

Please stay in topic, Delloda is well aware of the bug you are writing about, and there are other posts about this, please do a search and you will find a proper one to post your issue.

Atm your issue is off-topic here, and not relative to what Delloda is investigating and needing info about.

Unless you do not have any info about Immortal mantis other than already mentioned, please do not post at all in this thread.
Thank you for your attention.

 

[Starchaser]

The immortal mantis has nothing to do with other mantis it is a separated case from any other mantis.
It is always an unique case.
It has appeared to me in almost all forms of mantis except harvesters and interceptors.
From V1 to Earth on all planets.

In several occasions I had to ask other players to kill it for me, as I have been in the middle of missions mostly when it has happened, and it didn't matter where I go it follows me and slowly takes my life away.

I can give examples what I remember,
V1 Avengers,
V4 Avengers and Marauders, also Marauder Commander
Terasa Parasite
Lustra Commander, Parasite, Barbarians
Prosperous Commanders, Rocketeers, Marauders
CC had Detonator
Techna Pyro
Baumar Avengers and Paralyzor
Mizar Avengers, Rocketeers, Commander
Mars Marauders, Paralyzor, Rocketeer, Assassin
Moon Detonator, Pyro, Marauder
Earth Assassin, Sniper

Some of these belongs to DS others not.
Particular is that it follows you out of their normal areas.
Most I have got when I have helped with Story Missions everywhere, or done whites myself at SOL.

I shoot at the mantis, the blaster just go round and round, and it is impossible to shoot even thou it uses up the e, same with Rockets and with Thermo.
I test shooting on other mantis works normal, then I return trying to shoot on immortal again, and nada.
Same goes on and on. In order to manage to finish up a Kill white mission what has to be done within marked area, I usually need to ask another player to kill that mantis or I do not manage to do properly my mission as it is timed and all I do is to flee and come back and flee again cause that immortal is really stuck on u with murder in it's eyes.

Edited to add new info:

Today I was grinding at Molikar rank 42 harvesters when I got an immortal rocketeer on my tail, as normally I couldn't shoot at it and I tried to pick up my cry from ground, and then I start shooting on harvs again.
What happened the immortal joined the tail mantises and I activated my perforator and aim-computer to shoot a rocket on the whole bunch, what happened the immortal was gone, I managed to kill it.

Now what I need is to reproduce the same situation, to have an immortal after me, and to use perf + aim and shoot a rocket on it, for to test if it can really be killed this way.
That would be a good thing, just taht I do not always have my storm in use, but my engineer, shock or tank as well time by time depending on the situation.

I will do a follow-up on this situation and edit this post if I get more info.

 

[schneider43]

Yes idem with .
Can't kill them with sniper or ssb .
Orbital charge does the work !

 

[ahrido]

like it said before

it happens almost on all planets
and when it does happen nothin will work nor rep droid or ab or the blaster.

the equip will start to work when u shoot at another mantis.

 

[Starchaser]

I have never had it that nothing else would work, everything else works, only not the shootingson the immortal.
I can repair, ab and do that all, my point of shooting other mantis was to test if this was due to lag or not, and all worked fine shooting all other mantis.

Just didn't work on the immortal.
But as I updates in my post, I might have found a way to kill it.

 

[heisan213]

The immortal mantis has nothing to do with other mantis it is a separated case from any other mantis.
It is always an unique case.
It has appeared to me in almost all forms of mantis except harvesters and interceptors.
From V1 to Earth on all planets.

In several occasions I had to ask other players to kill it for me, as I have been in the middle of missions mostly when it has happened, and it didn't matter where I go it follows me and slowly takes my life away.

I can give examples what I remember,
V1 Avengers,
V4 Avengers and Marauders, also Marauder Commander
Terasa Parasite
Lustra Commander, Parasite, Barbarians
Prosperous Commanders, Rocketeers, Marauders
CC had Detonator
Techna Pyro
Baumar Avengers and Paralyzor
Mizar Avengers, Rocketeers, Commander
Mars Marauders, Paralyzor, Rocketeer, Assassin
Moon Detonator, Pyro, Marauder
Earth Assassin, Sniper

Some of these belongs to DS others not.
Particular is that it follows you out of their normal areas.
Most I have got when I have helped with Story Missions everywhere, or done whites myself at SOL.

I shoot at the mantis, the blaster just go round and round, and it is impossible to shoot even thou it uses up the e, same with Rockets and with Thermo.
I test shooting on other mantis works normal, then I return trying to shoot on immortal again, and nada.
Same goes on and on. In order to manage to finish up a Kill white mission what has to be done within marked area, I usually need to ask another player to kill that mantis or I do not manage to do properly my mission as it is timed and all I do is to flee and come back and flee again cause that immortal is really stuck on u with murder in it's eyes.

Edited to add new info:

Today I was grinding at Molikar rank 42 harvesters when I got an immortal rocketeer on my tail, as normally I couldn't shoot at it and I tried to pick up my cry from ground, and then I start shooting on harvs again.
What happened the immortal joined the tail mantises and I activated my perforator and aim-computer to shoot a rocket on the whole bunch, what happened the immortal was gone, I managed to kill it.

Now what I need is to reproduce the same situation, to have an immortal after me, and to use perf + aim and shoot a rocket on it, for to test if it can really be killed this way.
That would be a good thing, just taht I do not always have my storm in use, but my engineer, shock or tank as well time by time depending on the situation.

I will do a follow-up on this situation and edit this post if I get more info.

Well... Firstly, this has happened to me on Lustra harvesters, so they are also " included" here.

I was doing Rocketeer white mission and I found a immortal rocketeer, and I couldn't use my RD while locked on the it. Also I'd like to say that the only way I know to kill them is by using splahdamage from rocket ( same as if someone is doing an SM with personal mantis (ghost mantis) someone can use Stundome or rocket, on a mantis nearby and make damage to it/stun it) and maybe aggrobomb too. The perforator doesn't matter if i'ts on or off. Lol, got abit out of the story... Anyways I had to wait a long time to get a new mantis close enough to the immortal rocketeer, and when I did I managed to kill it ofcourse.

Also, the Orbital Strike is a spash-kinda weapon so it takes out the immortal mantis.

 

[Toorimakun]

Removed foul word? how is what i said totally different then the immortal issue?
sounds like what i was talking about to me...

just cuz i said that it might be a skill (tech) issue not a mob (mantis) issue doesn't make it a different problem... i am saying that the mobs might not be the problem at all. >.>

pretty much sounds like your only looking at it one way... that would be like going in to battle with no ammo and then coming back and saying that the enemy is immortal... but the real issue is the ammo.

 

[Adrana]

Toorimakun, Watch your language! You still have no rights to swear at me, nor to use foul language at the forum.

oh and another thing that might be the same bug.... some times when collecting the collector will seem to work but once its done the E-cell doesn't go away and you don't get energy.
i am sure this is the same issue... so i would say your looking for a problem with the techs not the mobs (mantis)

This is a known lag issue reported long time ago as a bug, but corrected, and has nothing to do with Immortals.
They are 2 totally separated problems.

 

[schneider43]

Lag problems ?
Strange that it never happened before!

 

[Toorimakun]

how is it lag if i cant farm a cell go to farm a different cell and it works can come back to the old cell and it still doesn't work?

 

[rubero]

i still have to e-cell problems sometimes but clicking away so you don't have anything locked and then lock it again works.
today i was shooting on mars in the pit when i suddenly had a immortal paralyzor on my tail. i read here you could kill it with splash dmg but didn't work then i tried to use my rep and ab but they didn't work the first time but when i they were recharged they worked then again they didn't work and after another recharge they worked again. idk if other ppl had this.

 

[Adrana]

Okay today it is the 22nd July, the new Vega system and update patches has been applicated into the game.
Since this is an issue before the change I will lock this topic, so therefore if there are now issues and bugs with the new system, post in any existing thread about it, or if your search doesn't find any open thread, only then open up a new one.

But this one has turned to be irrelevant now.