Tired of the Grind

[ianxess]

I don't begrudge any company making a buck, and paying for different things. But I do mind constant grinding to get anywhere.

Case in point, when you finish the Vega System story missions, you are between levels 12 to 14, and then you can go on to the Antares system. Well guess what, everything on Terasa is level 18, and well, you are going to get your teeth handed to you if you attempt them.

Now, even if you have top of everything, excluding rares and you have take the time and energy to grind your way to level 18 (which theoretically should put you on even footing with the AI's for the story missions) you are still going to get your gluteus maximus handed to you.

Now, yes, you can pay for a member ship and cut your grind time down, but there in lies the issue.

YOU ARE STILL GRINDING

That becomes tiring. I completed the Vega story missions by level 14, I just worked up to level 18 to earn enough cryo to buy an Antares ship (at over 4 times the cost of a Vegan ship, something else that is more than a little annoying), and am now going to have to go back to Vega and grind more than likely another 6 to 7 (but in all honesty it will more than likely take 10 to 12 levels) levels before I have a ship capable of dealing with the Antares missions.

This is a pretty cool game, and a better story line than most online games, but a good story line isn't enough of a hook to keep me interested when next chapter makes me wait and have to grind for a week or two to be able to continue.

 

[Adrana]

I am sorry to cut down your view of these issues.
There are Story Missions to accomplish what will give you the fragment to unlock Antares system, now what you seem to forget, there are several planets at Vega, and several white standard missions.
All those missions will pay you cry, and will give you xp as well.

What you could do, as so many has done before you, is to finish all Vega missions, and you will have more cry, and more ranks as well, and most important, you will gain player experience, I am not talking about xp, but to learn how to play this game, to create skill, and to use it.

I have taken my time to finish up Terasa, and part of Lustra story missions with an Armored Transport, they require skill, not a better ship, of course that would ease your ways in the system, but I can assure you they do not request an Antares ship to complete, not even a Vega ship, I have proven that.

Now to acquire Gold with real money, does not give you advantage of winning the planets, you might acquire speed, or other boosters, they might help to get slightly a bit more cry, but they will not create you the skill to play, nor can you buy ranks or xp with it, you can aid it with boosters yes, but not many of us paying members use the gold for such purpose, I am a paying member, and I might purchase some extra E, or a cry, or BP booster of 3h time by time, but rarely.

So please don't put it up to the neck of paying members that you might not be successful in your gaming.
As a fact you have to thank those paying customers, that this game is still up and running, and improving with new updates time by time for it's users.
The paying customers are those what keeps this game alive, and make it possible to improve.

It is one of the games online what I have learn to see, that has constant care of it's content, and for it's all players, free to play, and paying members, and believe me, I have played enough online games for years to know what I am talking about.

I am sure many of PG players agree with me.

 

[lance]

if you also compare this game to other mmorpg's out there the amount of time you have to grind for levels is comparitively small. My only gripe with the leveling is the big jump from 45 to 60 which takes a very long time.

Also, think about most of your famous mmorpg's out there. They are all a constant grind. In fact, all rpg's are ultimately a constant grind.it is making the experience of grinding enjoyable that makes a good rpg. If you dont like grinding, then perhaps these types of games are not for you.

Honestly, level 14-18 takes no time at all. I could probably do it in 3 hours. However, I do agree with you in that the amount of cryonite you earn for the vega missions compared to the price of the anteres ship is nothing. The missions in vega need to be nearly doubled, i remember having a hard time finding the amount of cryonite i needed for an anteres ship.

The jump from anteres to gemini is probably the worst, with the introduction of death squads, but the jump from gemini to mizar is actually fairly easy to handle. As is the one from mizar to sol.

Also, grinding levels is not the best way to get cryonite. It all comes from experience, but you will find some mantis drop more cryonite more often then others, and in the right spot, you can grind a lot of cryonite in a short amount of time. It is all experience comparing what is easiest to kill with how much cryonite it drops.

Trust me, i have played many mmorpg's out there and in many of them it is nearly twice as hard to level up as it is on this game.

 

[ZeribreX]

I got from Rank 6 in Vega to Rank 27 in Gemini using a AnIn-X Tank with Vega tech ... and I didnt buy an Antares ship, I used all of Antares Story Missions and the cryo left over from Vega for the Gemini ship, Worked well tbh, Had about 20k when I entered Gemini

 

[pbhuh]

I got from Rank 6 in Vega to Rank 27 in Gemini using a AnIn-X Tank with Vega tech ... and I didnt buy an Antares ship, I used all of Antares Story Missions and the cryo left over from Vega for the Gemini ship, Worked well tbh, Had about 20k when I entered Gemini

I think this is the best way of doing it.

 

[ianxess]

Where to start.

To begin with, I am more than familiar with game design theory. I am a designer,writer and lead developer for a third party alternate history D20 game. And before anyone says, well that's not a computer game, your right, but the basic principles involved in creating D20 games are exactly the same that go into a MMORPG, the only difference is the medium. So I understand the problems with trying to develop a game that challenges players, but isn't so hard that they quit playing because it is too tough.

I understand and applaud the Story Missions and then the White Missions which besides providing tech also provide ample opportunities in improving pilot skills.

Secondly, I wasn't complaining about paying players. Take a look at what I wrote:

Now, yes, you can pay for a membership and cut your grind time down, but there in lies the issue.

YOU ARE STILL GRINDING

Meaning, that it didn't matter if you paid or not, you still had to grind. The paying players are not a problem, and I am not complaining about them.

Thirdly, getting specific ships.

I am griping about grinding and ZeribreX's solution is to grind for a AnIn-X Tank Considering it took me a week of beating up on lvl 15 Avengers on Aurora before I finally got lucky and got the Vega Vendetta Blaster, the thought of grinding for a Anln-X Tank is one that fills me with dread

 

[pbhuh]

Where to start.

To begin with, I am more than familiar with game design theory. I am a designer,writer and lead developer for a third party alternate history D20 game. And before anyone says, well that's not a computer game, your right, but the basic principles involved in creating D20 games are exactly the same that go into a MMORPG, the only difference is the medium. So I understand the problems with trying to develop a game that challenges players, but isn't so hard that they quit playing because it is too tough.

I understand and applaud the Story Missions and then the White Missions which besides providing tech also provide ample opportunities in improving pilot skills.

Secondly, I wasn't complaining about paying players. Take a look at what I wrote:

Now, yes, you can pay for a membership and cut your grind time down, but there in lies the issue.

YOU ARE STILL GRINDING

Meaning, that it didn't matter if you paid or not, you still had to grind. The paying players are not a problem, and I am not complaining about them.

Thirdly, getting specific ships.

I am griping about grinding and ZeribreX's solution is to grind for a AnIn-X Tank Considering it took me a week of beating up on lvl 15 Avengers on Aurora before I finally got lucky and got the Vega Vendetta Blaster, the thought of grinding for a Anln-X Tank is one that fills me with dread

Wait wait wait, you don't need a AnIn-X Tank, it was his style of playing, everyone in pirate galaxy has his way of playing,

Often if i have to grind i get bored and ask people if they need help

but what ship you have? Anin-2000 War hawk?

Also i suggest you to enter the terasa hangar to look for armor upgrade, with armor upgrade you will have a lot more armor so you can better survive and so also it's easier for the missions.

For the last i think that if you sale a weapon you get 100% back, this because you can choose to buy the first weapon of the system, then the other etc. this would fit more in PG.

 

[ianxess]

Often if i have to grind i get bored and ask people if they need help

Funny you should mention that Just after I wrote my rant I was invited to join a clan, it has made things a bit easier.

but what ship you have? Anin-2000 War hawk?

Actually I now pilot a AnIn-D35 Fire Storm with the first armor upgrade.

 

[lance]

this game grinds in steps... You play through a system, its good fun, then you grind for the next system, play through it etc..

It is great when you are not grinding, but some of the prices are pretty steep imo...

 

[thehunter3]

Yes in RS it takes years to go up levels once your high.

 

[Delloda]

I don't think I've heard of any mmorpg that doesn't involve grinding... if you can think of a concept, you can make lots of money!

When i Played L2, it takes the same amount of XP to get from level 75 to 76 as you needed to get from level 1 to 75. How's that for a grind!

 

[lance]

I don't think I've heard of any mmorpg that doesn't involve grinding... if you can think of a concept, you can make lots of money!

When i Played L2, it takes the same amount of XP to get from level 75 to 76 as you needed to get from level 1 to 75. How's that for a grind!

try playing lolrandomgame***** LOL (ok my subtlety skills need work i know)

lvl 1-5 is the same as 1-50 on this

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Adrana