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Well my friend in the past days I have learned something.
There are only 2 ways to do draconis sm:
1-Membership, boosters
2-Luck.

The first way is too expensive.Im not mad to use money on a game and get nothing in return.
As for the second way, that doesnt depend on me.

Today I find myself stuck on a mission (traitor located) which someone else may consider as easy, but for me it is being very hard.

Anyway, that doesnt have to do with this.
But I feel like they are forcing me to leave.I dont want to leave but I cant play a game which cant be played.
What if I dont want to play in sq?What if I want to play alone.I cant anymore.

Thats all.

Regards
Dark Lord
 

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well i quit PG allready... just got on the forums to check for any new updates. as soon as theres new updates ill play.
 

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I totally agree with lance on this matter
I have many friends and clan mates who can testify that i used to play a lot more.
After my three week vacation in october I decided to leave off PG for a while.
Why? because it would take too long to get to the Hive.
I was at the moon
by my estimates, it would have taken me 3 -6 months to get to the Hive, much less finish it.
and i am simply brilliant with SMs =D
now i am lvl 60, gearing up for the push to drac. I feel so bored.
the community is still just as respectful of other players, but more of a cautious "if i be nice he wont shoot me" type of respectfulness, instead of a OMG i want his items sooo bad ill lvl up faster now.
 

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All you players spouting off about out with the old in with the new . . . how bogus can you be. They didn't just add Draconis, they changed the whole game. They changed the way you do everything from missions to grinding, and even almost destroyed any need for clans. But, not just in Draconis! No, they did it to the whole game. Why is it necessary for them to change all the other stuff to add a more challenging system at the top? Yes, all of eventually will probably figure out how to do Draconis sooner or later or get the help in doing so. But, at what expense?

Why would you make Draconis tech so exorbitantly expensive instead of a progression in costs similar to the other systems? Why does the cry rates and BP drops on Draconis mean we have to change all of the other systems also? Why is it necessary to change the game so dramatically that the noob player is not even playing the same game we did? Why are they trying to slow down the game? Don't they realize that by leaving the game as it was, when one person conquerd a system he would go back to help others? They did not leave the game, they continued playing.

Are you aware that now you have to grind as hard in Vega as you do in Draconis? That instead of the fun game we have enjoyed, raved about, and invited our friends to come play . . . the noob is now stuck with a long drawn out "boring to the point of irritation" game to play. I could give a Rats Tail if they added a new tougher system to the top of the game. I am concerned that they have made it so disportionate to the other systems, that it's ridiculous. My concern is the devistation gamewide under guise of adding the new system so that they could make a few extra dollars. A few extra dollars they may pull in now, but when the tally is counted later this month they will realize a significant loss just because of what they have done to the rest of the game.

I am happy if you are enjoying the game still. And, I seriously hope others do so also. As for myself, the game at this time sucks! There is no fun. There is no player interaction. There is no laughter. All there is is a continuing irritation from them changing a fun game to crap and not doing anything to fix it. ANd, then they are continuing with this ongoing change to the game with new changes to come in the near future that take us further away from what we had. No, my friends. . . They are not bringing on improvment and player challenge. They are destroying a really good game. And, what you may also fail to realize is that you and every other player in the game presently has made contribution to this game that made it what it was. From the player that was a pain in the anatomy to everybody, through the clan rivalries, and to the players that kept us laughing, everybody contributed. Guess what? They have effectivly destroyed your contribution ande the game will never be the same.

Do you realize that there are hundreds of player complaints, questions, and concerns raised within this forum that nobody from Splitscreen has even read so they could respond to it? I do not know about you but when my children have a question or complaint about a product, I tell them to contact the Maker so the company can respond to the issue. But, look at this! How many of you have had a paid Splitscreen employee resond to any complaint made in this forum? NONE! (this is not to slight Thom Delloda, he has always been there for the game) But nobody else from Splitscreen cares to listen and act in this situation. ANd as far as I am concerned, they took my money under false pretenses, offering me one game and giving me somet5hing much less. It's simple, nobody from Splitscreen cares about what you think about this game, if you stay or if you go. They are confident that they will get new players to replace our friends that have left the game, that will find the new game acceptable and life will continue on its merry way.

I believe they will find a different future. I believe the noob player is going to get bored real easy and without senior players participation will quietly leave the game unsatisfied with the experience. I believe the new player is not going to be willing to fork over the cash to play the game as slow and boring as it has become, and the profit margin that was here will be gone, and soon therafter the game will be but a memory to those of us that loved it. I tell you one thing that is going to be an absolute . . . If they don't fix this game and do so quickly, you hot shots talking about how easy the game is up in Draconis, will be the only players here. And, I hope all five or six of you have a grand time. (I do not mean this offensivly, I seriously hope you are capable of finding enjoyment in the game)


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datajam said:
All you players spouting off about out with the old in with the new . . . how bogus can you be. They didn't just add Draconis, they changed the whole game. They changed the way you do everything from missions to grinding, and even almost destroyed any need for clans. But, not just in Draconis! No, they did it to the whole game. Why is it necessary for them to change all the other stuff to add a more challenging system at the top? Yes, all of eventually will probably figure out how to do Draconis sooner or later or get the help in doing so. But, at what expense?

Why would you make Draconis tech so exorbitantly expensive instead of a progression in costs similar to the other systems? Why does the cry rates and BP drops on Draconis mean we have to change all of the other systems also? Why is it necessary to change the game so dramatically that the noob player is not even playing the same game we did? Why are they trying to slow down the game? Don't they realize that by leaving the game as it was, when one person conquerd a system he would go back to help others? They did not leave the game, they continued playing.

Are you aware that now you have to grind as hard in Vega as you do in Draconis? That instead of the fun game we have enjoyed, raved about, and invited our friends to come play . . . the noob is now stuck with a long drawn out "boring to the point of irritation" game to play. I could give a Rats Tail if they added a new tougher system to the top of the game. I am concerned that they have made it so disportionate to the other systems, that it's ridiculous. My concern is the devistation gamewide under guise of adding the new system so that they could make a few extra dollars. A few extra dollars they may pull in now, but when the tally is counted later this month they will realize a significant loss just because of what they have done to the rest of the game.

I am happy if you are enjoying the game still. And, I seriously hope others do so also. As for myself, the game at this time sucks! There is no fun. There is no player interaction. There is no laughter. All there is is a continuing irritation from them changing a fun game to crap and not doing anything to fix it. ANd, then they are continuing with this ongoing change to the game with new changes to come in the near future that take us further away from what we had. No, my friends. . . They are not bringing on improvment and player challenge. They are destroying a really good game. And, what you may also fail to realize is that you and every other player in the game presently has made contribution to this game that made it what it was. From the player that was a pain in the anatomy to everybody, through the clan rivalries, and to the players that kept us laughing, everybody contributed. Guess what? They have effectivly destroyed your contribution ande the game will never be the same.

Do you realize that there are hundreds of player complaints, questions, and concerns raised within this forum that nobody from Splitscreen has even read so they could respond to it? I do not know about you but when my children have a question or complaint about a product, I tell them to contact the Maker so the company can respond to the issue. But, look at this! How many of you have had a paid Splitscreen employee resond to any complaint made in this forum? NONE! (this is not to slight Thom Delloda, he has always been there for the game) But nobody else from Splitscreen cares to listen and act in this situation. ANd as far as I am concerned, they took my money under false pretenses, offering me one game and giving me somet5hing much less. It's simple, nobody from Splitscreen cares about what you think about this game, if you stay or if you go. They are confident that they will get new players to replace our friends that have left the game, that will find the new game acceptable and life will continue on its merry way.

I believe they will find a different future. I believe the noob player is going to get bored real easy and without senior players participation will quietly leave the game unsatisfied with the experience. I believe the new player is not going to be willing to fork over the cash to play the game as slow and boring as it has become, and the profit margin that was here will be gone, and soon therafter the game will be but a memory to those of us that loved it. I tell you one thing that is going to be an absolute . . . If they don't fix this game and do so quickly, you hot shots talking about how easy the game is up in Draconis, will be the only players here. And, I hope all five or six of you have a grand time. (I do not mean this offensivly, I seriously hope you are capable of finding enjoyment in the game)


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Agreed.

I sooo loved the game back on Askone when Gemini was still the top system and maybe early Mizar too, and it was the community that did that =) I think it's the same for any game to be honest. I think you had the best ballance in the game whin Gemini and Mizar, Sol was pritty ok too. But you've change the whole game soo much it's just plain **** now ^.^ I almost have no interest in this game now, the only reason i'm here now is cuz of my clanmates. It's annoyingly slow to grind now, mantis STILL climb over mountains to get you... which I think is out of order :O they should get stuck on a hill dang it. Plus I noticed you made the mantis alot faster now O.O I can't even keep the distance anymore let alone outrun them O.O it's reaaallly annoying that is.

and i'll be quite blunt in saying the new players... once the older players start leaving start the game, they're only gunna get to antares, maybe Gemini before the get bored to tears and leave game. I played it again from Vega a month or two ago and I didn't even make it to the Auraura mission cuz I got bored of always having to cry hunt so much. Bare in mind that even though I've played through Vega before, this is the first time I've done it in a year or two, so most of what's in Vega, especially the missions are completely new to me.

Oh and yes clans are almost unnecessary now, CQs aren't even worth going to even IF they worked O.O

That's allll he wrote.
 
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datajam said:
All you players spouting off about out with the old in with the new . . . how bogus can you be. They didn't just add Draconis, they changed the whole game. They changed the way you do everything from missions to grinding, and even almost destroyed any need for clans. But, not just in Draconis! No, they did it to the whole game. Why is it necessary for them to change all the other stuff to add a more challenging system at the top? Yes, all of eventually will probably figure out how to do Draconis sooner or later or get the help in doing so. But, at what expense?

Why would you make Draconis tech so exorbitantly expensive instead of a progression in costs similar to the other systems? Why does the cry rates and BP drops on Draconis mean we have to change all of the other systems also? Why is it necessary to change the game so dramatically that the noob player is not even playing the same game we did? Why are they trying to slow down the game? Don't they realize that by leaving the game as it was, when one person conquerd a system he would go back to help others? They did not leave the game, they continued playing.

Are you aware that now you have to grind as hard in Vega as you do in Draconis? That instead of the fun game we have enjoyed, raved about, and invited our friends to come play . . . the noob is now stuck with a long drawn out "boring to the point of irritation" game to play. I could give a Rats Tail if they added a new tougher system to the top of the game. I am concerned that they have made it so disportionate to the other systems, that it's ridiculous. My concern is the devistation gamewide under guise of adding the new system so that they could make a few extra dollars. A few extra dollars they may pull in now, but when the tally is counted later this month they will realize a significant loss just because of what they have done to the rest of the game.

I am happy if you are enjoying the game still. And, I seriously hope others do so also. As for myself, the game at this time sucks! There is no fun. There is no player interaction. There is no laughter. All there is is a continuing irritation from them changing a fun game to crap and not doing anything to fix it. ANd, then they are continuing with this ongoing change to the game with new changes to come in the near future that take us further away from what we had. No, my friends. . . They are not bringing on improvment and player challenge. They are destroying a really good game. And, what you may also fail to realize is that you and every other player in the game presently has made contribution to this game that made it what it was. From the player that was a pain in the anatomy to everybody, through the clan rivalries, and to the players that kept us laughing, everybody contributed. Guess what? They have effectivly destroyed your contribution ande the game will never be the same.

Do you realize that there are hundreds of player complaints, questions, and concerns raised within this forum that nobody from Splitscreen has even read so they could respond to it? I do not know about you but when my children have a question or complaint about a product, I tell them to contact the Maker so the company can respond to the issue. But, look at this! How many of you have had a paid Splitscreen employee resond to any complaint made in this forum? NONE! (this is not to slight Thom Delloda, he has always been there for the game) But nobody else from Splitscreen cares to listen and act in this situation. ANd as far as I am concerned, they took my money under false pretenses, offering me one game and giving me somet5hing much less. It's simple, nobody from Splitscreen cares about what you think about this game, if you stay or if you go. They are confident that they will get new players to replace our friends that have left the game, that will find the new game acceptable and life will continue on its merry way.

I believe they will find a different future. I believe the noob player is going to get bored real easy and without senior players participation will quietly leave the game unsatisfied with the experience. I believe the new player is not going to be willing to fork over the cash to play the game as slow and boring as it has become, and the profit margin that was here will be gone, and soon therafter the game will be but a memory to those of us that loved it. I tell you one thing that is going to be an absolute . . . If they don't fix this game and do so quickly, you hot shots talking about how easy the game is up in Draconis, will be the only players here. And, I hope all five or six of you have a grand time. (I do not mean this offensivly, I seriously hope you are capable of finding enjoyment in the game)


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I think many people assumed I was just ranting about the Draconis system... Its not just that, its every single major change SS have made has destroyed some part of the game.

Go on, I challenge anyone to find me a major udate (not just a bugfix, a change) that has improved the game without causing a load more problems.

I certainly cannot remember any.
 

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dogdrool said:
I quite agree with Marcs25, after the collective teddy and a few dummies where thrown out of the pram with threats of players leaving , not going to play anymore etc, it is really funny to see said pilots still tooling round in PG now rank 70 and above in draconis ships. Why are you still here?

Hypocracy at its best :mad:
What u have to learn is that most of these R70s are probably waiting for a much better game to come out. Thats what i'm doing for now but until the game changes, it will die when BP comes out. It is sad to see a game which so many loved just go down hill at a very Steap angle.
 

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-yes, we have problems here:! -but i think that BP is overestimated. -i got an invitation to the closed beta and downloaded around 7gigabytes of data just to find out that it didn´t work, so i did erase everything again and wait for the open beta to come out. -SS still got time to come to their senses and give more freedom to the players, instead of controling everything to the least detail and use it against us. -it´s more and more like that there are only one way to play this game, the SS way. -i would just like SS to make a gameframe, and let the players fill it just as they like without an overload of sick motivationkilling restrictions. -yes:)
 
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