Steering Topics

[JWL1991]

lol...

Since the dev's seem to be reading this thread(although not posting) here is an idea.

Some people genuinely like this new system, and some people(like myself) absolutely hate it and wont even bother playing anymore after its put live onto all servers, so here is my suggestion.

I suggest you have an option in settings to switch between the 2, and another seperate option to enable/disable the ship drifting when no keys are pressed. who doesn't like more options? and if the settings page is going to be to big then, u can have tabs across the top for each category.

also an option when using the old one to lock the camera behind the ship would be nice, so when you turn, the ship turns straight away with the camera(would be easier when trying to get somewhere in a mantis infested area like most of the hive).

 

[selkath]

lol...

Since the dev's seem to be reading this thread(although not posting) here is an idea.

Some people genuinely like this new system, and some people(like myself) absolutely hate it and wont even bother playing anymore after its put live onto all servers, so here is my suggestion.

I suggest you have an option in settings to switch between the 2, and another seperate option to enable/disable the ship drifting when no keys are pressed. who doesn't like more options? and if the settings page is going to be to big then, u can have tabs across the top for each category.

also an option when using the old one to lock the camera behind the ship would be nice, so when you turn, the ship turns straight away with the camera(would be easier when trying to get somewhere in a mantis infested area like most of the hive).

This would be great idea as it would keep everyone happy.

 

[Sayyadin]

Well I got at least some more valuable information than when I did not use any "foul language" which I did not by the way. But if that is the only way to wake you guys up to write what the problem is instead of telling us only ... is bad ... is not working.

Most of the post vrom JWL was not very informative but one thing was, being able to rotate the camera with the keyboard while also moving with it is wanted and for you not possible with the current version. Well then I have good news we are already finished a version where you can do exactly that will be uplodated shortly.

Please refer from just telling us something is bad or not working tell us what you want to do and/or is not working. We want to deliver the update on time and therefore I want to know fast what you don't like and want changed else we have to deploy the version as it is which would make us and you unhappy so please speak to us instead of ranting. If you rant again without giving us any valuable information I might have to write a post as I did before to get your attention and make you write more and hope something is valuable for us to change it so we are all happy.



I like to work fast and efficient and therefore I sometimes use "special" ways to get to information that I need I hope you are not offended by that.

 

[Firebrand1]

alright here goes, i'll try not to rant too much.

First off: the new steering system. With only 8 degrees of rotation instead of the old system, it makes controlling our ships very awkward and next to impossible. It's pretty much impossible to get our ships to point the way we want them to on the maps. One thing i do like however, is the fuction of the ship stopping when no keys are pressed down. What I (and frankly, most people) want is the old steering system reintroduced, with the stopping function still there.

Secondly: The new loot system. It's alright, but it still has a few things that need to be sorted out. Mainly the number of blueprints it takes to make one item. 20+ bps to make one item in draconis is not acceptable. We were thinking maybe 3 BP's to make one item, not 20. Maybe lower the number of BP's it takes to make one item, then it should be fine.

 

[Becky]

Sometimes it just amazes me, what people will say to justify what they say. I say this to you Sayyadin, the use of "Your Foul Language" astrixed out or not, is totally unexceptible in any circumstances. I don't come on here to read abusive or foul mouthed posts from anyone, least of all you , or other members of splitscreen studios.

You are a Product Manager for Splitscreen Studios, therefore act accordingly. The use of your foul language to get your point across is seriously unprofessional, no matter how you try to justify it!!

I maybe a small town girl from the middle of know where, and of course i have heard and used profanity, but this is effectively a notice board if you will, that people of All ages use, you do not set good example here one bit.

I'm not interested in any justification you care to make about this, your wrong, End of Story !!

 

[Sayyadin]

Please refer from talking in this thread about my post and stick to the topic please. We want to know what you don't like about the new system and also what you think is not working there.

By the way on PTR now you can rotate camera with shift +a or +d.

 

[Becky]

Please refer from talking in this thread about my post and stick to the topic please. We want to know what you don't like about the new system and also what you think is not working there.

By the way on PTR now you can rotate camera with shift +a or +d.

Very well Sayyadin, i will cease to comment on your post any further. Here anyway.

But I believe I got my point across, and without the use of profanity !!

 

[slowhand90]

1st. Becky is 100% right. Nuff said.
2nd. The new steering update will be a disaster. Dont change it; tweek it or touch it. JUST LEAVE IT AS IT IS
As we can all see here its extreamly unpopular with the present PG players, and if we are to believe what we read in public chat on the game itself, very few players will remain once this new steering system is implimented. or is that the intention?? to get rid of the old established players who remember what a good game this used to be before SS got greedy, for new players who know no nothing else and will gladly take anything SS deem they deserve. I say this because longstanding players are leaving in droves as it is, with Draconis being so gold-sapping, and this latest game-changing idea will be the final nail in the PG coffin. You only have to read public chat to realise most of us are looking elsewhere now for another game, and its no secret which game we will go to once it is online proper. So Splitscreen, please dont curse at us because you've got it wrong, Put it right, Drop The new steering idea and let us play the game we pay for, and maybe some existing players might just stay.

 

[RetroRage]

please please please leave the steering system as it is now just add the hover mode, i went on the ptr for 5 mins today and left cos of this horrible new steering system, its hard explain what it is a dont like about it it just doesnt feel right and the reaction times of the controls are alot slower

 

[Sayyadin]

We are still working on the steering system to enable you to do some things you could do with the old one which you could not do anymore with the new one.

However if the new steering will come it will be a change for sure and some people will think it is bad because they have to change their playstyle that they are used to but overall now after testing the steering for multiple days I have to say I have a lot of problem with the old one feel it is very slow absolutely not intuative and very weird.
I agree that some functionality was handy and we are trying to convert this to the new system however much of the old system does not make much sense and feeld very wrong aswell if you look on it after not having to use it for some time.

Why was I pressing for information so much today, because if we revert we have to fix a lot of bugs in the old steering which brought us to even developing the new one as it was much easier to build a new one then fixing the old one as this all takes time we had to check if we really have to revert, this will take us much time we would like to invest into balancing the other things in the game and fixing bugs.

Please test the new system after another version which we will deploy soon again. Give it a chance test it out for several days and on monday tell us if you really think it as bad as the old one, compare it to the old one and tell us what you are missing and what you think was better with the old one.

Changes that will be deployed with the next Version: disable the intelligent camera while having it enabled, hold shift after you adjusted the camera to keep the camera this way (you have to adjust your flying destination).
With alt+ a or d rotates the camera to left right.

 

[hody]

Tested it again this morning and my findings are as follows:

reaction time = poor but slightly improved

smoothness of flight = awfull ( unless u use w to go forward and mouse to click on screen )

generall feeling of gameplay = very poor ( always seems a struglle against what i want the ship to do and what the ship is actually doing )

I tried with intelegent cammera on and off!

Personal opinion =Leave it as it is now, if u dont want to drift into manis log off or go to orbit . Increase in e-cap is still pathetic but at least heading in the right direction. Loot system =disasterous as 1 bp gave me 7% on the moon for aim tech (15 min of shooting to get 2 bp's)

Did SS not learn from the disaster that came with the early and ill planed release of draconis ?

I am not agreeing with Ventnor just because he is now my boss. I agree with Ventnor.

I must say I have never heard one player say to me that they would like SS to change the ship steering system. I have heard complaints about BP drops, cry drops, cost of ships and items, buggy story missions, and lots of other things that are not coming to mind now.

What brought on this idea to change the steering system? You seemed to lose a bunch of long time players after Draconis came out. These are the people that buy the gold that keeps this game alive. Are you trying to lose more? I have read a lot of the posts here concerning the new update coming out on Wednesday and it looks to me to be a vote against it.

I have personally gotten 8 friends to play this game over the time I have been here. All of them have left. The main complaint is that it takes too long to save up enough cry to buy ships and items. Most of the players left once they reached the gemini system. They were trying to get enough cry for a gemini ship and just got bored with it all. If I personally know 8 players myself, how many others have left for the same reason.

Bah, have to go back to work now.


hody....

 

[Thebesj]

I tested the new steering system on test server...
It is THE MOST STUPID UPDATE I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is almost impossible to steer your ship and it is not possible to run away from mantis Death Squad!
Please DO NOT make this update!

I love the new chat and that you can hover, but the steering is really, really bad!

 

[selkath]

Additionally to the new steering system there is an option to switch back to the old one, I would still suggest that you try and test the new system as it is much faster in a lot of ways although it is different.

Looks like they listened!

 

[serebus]

That is good and thumbs up for SS for that i did not like it at all, but have not tryed this latest version, if the old steering will stay as an opsion i will use that, for the cry drop and the new bp system i have not stayd log enought on the PTR to try that out to coment on it but up to 20 bp´s is a bit to much even if the droprate is increast but we will see, but the E-cap and the ignorelist is fine

 

[ridoi]

when a old player as me or anyone else says a update is bad, then we know why it is

 

[Firebrand1]

the option to switch back in the old steering system is a step in the right direction, thank you SS for taking our ranting, raving, and rambling into account ^^ ^^ ^^

 

[ridoi]

the option to switch back in the old steering system is a step in the right direction, thank you SS for taking our ranting, raving, and rambling into account ^^ ^^ ^^

well I will use the new steering xD(not at sm)

 

[pbhuh]

steering is connected to hover, and i know that you have to change, but now you have to use your camera more to steer.

 

[Astraeus]

The Steering System has been vastly Improved Late yesterday You now have 2 options under settings 3D (Nrw) & Non 3D (Old). I have played with both since first introduced on PTR & feel the New is Excellant by far as you can now fly with the 'W' Key, Target with Tab or Mouse click, Shoot with 1 key, change camera rotation & move with mouse without losing focus or firing.

 

[pbhuh]

got to say that new steering uses less grafics, i was able to move my ship on my bad pc, and with bad i mean really bad.