Star Wars vs Pirate Galaxy. Warning! geekness within!

[lance]

I have done a lot of thinking on that gravity basically is time, and i actually thought that i was the only one thinking that... If the universe expands in all directions, then perhaps the time/gravity itself expands aswell, perhaps it's the gravity/time that expands/goes forward that makes the rets of the universe expands aswell?

I mean, think of it, if time would start to go backwards, the universe would shrink again!

I never heard of white holes just before the supernova, but i suggest ashoka to don't say no, because physics is VERY strange and there's a lot that we don't know, unlike what our ''cheap school books'' say.

If there's some sort of Gravity wave when the star goes supernova, it's possible that the explosion makes the plane of gravity wobble upwards, thus not only making a white hole, but also enabling time travel forward in time! (if we could survive the intense energy) then the gravity wobbles downwards and forms a black hole.

Maybe, the white hole still is there, just that the forward motion of time has brought us to the other end of the hole(the black part), and if you jump in the black hole, you come out trough the white hole at the moment when the star go supernova?

So, thats a interesting thing. If we could survive the travel trough a singularity and then after that trough a supernova's core, then we could go back to any moment when a supernova happened ever!

It could also be a way of saving the human race. If we have engines capable of travelling enourmos distances, wecan just fly away a few galaxies from Earth, jump trough a black hole that is a few hundred millions old, and we find ourselves were the universe is younger, the rest of humanity is nothing to care about, or when even the mantis themselves were just small insects.

Now, this might be wrong, but remember that it might be true in another wave function!

All is possible according to the wave function theory! ^^

gravity is not time... Without time there would not be gravity, true, but without gravity there can still be time... You just float... lol.

What i think you mean is that space=time. It has been tested that travelling through space fast enough makes you age slower then someone who is still. Look it up, it has been done, and proved Using atomic clocks (clocks that measure to an incredible degree of accuracy)

If time goes backwards the universe would shrink, because it has a finite time in which space exists... Just as time has a finite space in which to exist... think about it, outside the universe (theoretically speaking) there would be no time. Therefore space, and time, are the same... thats why it is sometimes called space-time.

 

[Ahsoka]

Gravity is basicaly Time, u might not have the Effects Gravity normaly has but if u go 99.99% the speed of light then Time basicaly Slows Down in the Object because Gravity wouldn't be able to keep up as fast.

 

[lance]

Gravity is basicaly Time, u might not have the Effects Gravity normaly has but if u go 99.99% the speed of light then Time basicaly Slows Down in the Object because Gravity wouldn't be able to keep up as fast.

No, it isnt.

Time and space, are pretty much the same. Not time and gravity. Gravity is nothing like time.

If you travel through space, you also travel through time. Fact.

Gravity cant keep up? lol. Please dont make me explain this.... It makes my head hurt.

 

[defacto]

Gravity is basicaly Time, u might not have the Effects Gravity normaly has but if u go 99.99% the speed of light then Time basicaly Slows Down in the Object because Gravity wouldn't be able to keep up as fast.

No, it isnt.

Time and space, are pretty much the same. Not time and gravity. Gravity is nothing like time.

If you travel through space, you also travel through time. Fact.

Gravity cant keep up? lol. Please dont make me explain this.... It makes my head hurt.

Your arguments are completely valid, but you talk abou things like you know them. Assumptions, assumptions...

What if people would have said that string theory was impossible?

I mean, the universe acts in every way as if the curvature of space/time a.k.a gravity is the same as time, and the further out in the 4th dimension (or time) it goes, the further it is stretched, because the universe inflates.

This is just a theory.

 

[lance]

Gravity is basicaly Time, u might not have the Effects Gravity normaly has but if u go 99.99% the speed of light then Time basicaly Slows Down in the Object because Gravity wouldn't be able to keep up as fast.

No, it isnt.

Time and space, are pretty much the same. Not time and gravity. Gravity is nothing like time.

If you travel through space, you also travel through time. Fact.

Gravity cant keep up? lol. Please dont make me explain this.... It makes my head hurt.

Your arguments are completely valid, but you talk abou things like you know them. Assumptions, assumptions...

What if people would have said that string theory was impossible?

I mean, the universe acts in every way as if the curvature of space/time a.k.a gravity is the same as time, and the further out in the 4th dimension (or time) it goes, the further it is stretched, because the universe inflates.

This is just a theory.

Assumptions, based on theories created by extremely gifted physicists and mathematicians. I really do not want to explain this to detail, it would probably create the biggest post on this forum.

Besides, the theories work. If a theory does not work for a given situation, then it is not a valid theory. It is only theoretical because we have no current way of proving it; but thats all we need, proof. Its like the argument for the existence of God. All either side needs is a good proof and it will be accepted in seconds.

Some day, there will be a way to put this to the test... Only then can you say that my assumptions are wrong.

Life is based around theories, as is a lot of modern science. But the reason the theories have been accepted is that they have been applied to as many situations as we can think of to ensure they work. So good luck disproving some of the greatest minds in history.

 

[Ahsoka]

Gravity is basicaly Time, u might not have the Effects Gravity normaly has but if u go 99.99% the speed of light then Time basicaly Slows Down in the Object because Gravity wouldn't be able to keep up as fast.

No, it isnt.

Time and space, are pretty much the same. Not time and gravity. Gravity is nothing like time.

If you travel through space, you also travel through time. Fact.

Gravity cant keep up? lol. Please dont make me explain this.... It makes my head hurt.

Your arguments are completely valid, but you talk abou things like you know them. Assumptions, assumptions...

What if people would have said that string theory was impossible?

I mean, the universe acts in every way as if the curvature of space/time a.k.a gravity is the same as time, and the further out in the 4th dimension (or time) it goes, the further it is stretched, because the universe inflates.

This is just a theory.

Assumptions, based on theories created by extremely gifted physicists and mathematicians. I really do not want to explain this to detail, it would probably create the biggest post on this forum.

Besides, the theories work. If a theory does not work for a given situation, then it is not a valid theory. It is only theoretical because we have no current way of proving it; but thats all we need, proof. Its like the argument for the existence of God. All either side needs is a good proof and it will be accepted in seconds.

Some day, there will be a way to put this to the test... Only then can you say that my assumptions are wrong.

Life is based around theories, as is a lot of modern science. But the reason the theories have been accepted is that they have been applied to as many situations as we can think of to ensure they work. So good luck disproving some of the greatest minds in history.

I'm accepting some people already, Steven Hawkings and Einstein. Both very good minds and yet 1 of them helped create the Atomic Bombs which was dropped on Haroshima and some other city

 

[defacto]

Do you think Hawking and Kaku, and every brilliant scientist there is today beleive what the ancient greeces did?

I'm sure that science will look a lot different in the future.

Saying that i am trying to disprove the greatest minds in history is like saying that i try to disprove the maker of the first wheel.

 

[Firebrand1]

can we get back on topic please?

 

[defacto]

Oh right, back on topic.

 

[pbhuh]

star wars couldn't win, Pirate Galaxy has 10 times more power. And even when the Jedi's have laser power to shoot back our own shots, a stun charge can freeze them ^^. DIE DIE DIE

 

[Ahsoka]

I would say Star Wars would win looking at what Factions there are in the Star Wars Universe and they have MORE fire Power than us looking at ho many Strike Craft they will have.

 

[ridoi]

1 rocket,OS or aggrobomb they would say bomb

 

[defacto]

1 rocket,OS or aggrobomb they would say bomb

What ae you talking about?

 

[lance]

Do you think Hawking and Kaku, and every brilliant scientist there is today beleive what the ancient greeces did?

I'm sure that science will look a lot different in the future.

Saying that i am trying to disprove the greatest minds in history is like saying that i try to disprove the maker of the first wheel.

thats true, but some of the theories were disproved because there were certain situation in which they did not work. Extensive research in this area was made, and a new theory was formed.

It irritates me when people say theories are "assumptions". If you have seen the amount of work that goes into them, take for example the theory of relativity. Years of work went into that... Einstein did not just wake up one day with a new theory in his head. They are only accepted because they have been applied to every situation relevant to ensure they do not fall apart, over a very long time.

Some of the theories we have today may not be provable, but they have been redefined over and over again as we have created more complex equipment in such areas. This means that the theories now have such a huge amount of research behind them that disproving them is nigh on impossible, without gigantic breakthroughs in scientific knowledge. For example, if we manage to find out exactly what went on at the very start of the universe, it might redfine our theories on it. But the chances of this happening are minute... There's only a limited amount of knowledge we need to gain before we solve, yes SOLVE a lot of the problems we cannot prove.

People say that it just creates more questions... But a lot of these questions are pointless. The theories we have at the moment have been proved, disproved, redefined, over thousands of years since the question was first pondered upon. So its getting to the point where these theories may be close to becoming fact. All we need to do is develop the technology to prove/disprove them.

Science may look a lot different then it did thousands of years ago, but some theories have been accepted and remain unchanged for that amount of time. So we can only think up a limited amount of plausible theories before we start to accept them and they remain unchanged as well.

Id also like to say that disproving a wheel is impossible... a wheel that has been made is a fact (unless you want to go down the route of "using none of your senses prove that i am here" to which my response will be "prove that i just swore at you").

Disproving the greatest minds in history is possible, but it is becoming more and more difficult to do. It will eventually reach the point where it will be impossible.