Removal of Gravitons from the PVP sections of the game [POLL]

[Malachi79]

Good Afternoon, Evening, Morning;

Due to a number of requests on both the forums and the cross server discord i have created 3 different polls to check what the pirate galaxy population thinks about the use of gravitons in the 3 different PVP sections of the game.

Please Ensure to
• Vote what you think about each section in the poll honestly, As you only get ONE vote per section.
• Leave a Comment explaining why you voted or what you did, or what your opinion about the issue is, as i and others would love to hear it. (Optional)

The 3 Polls are as follows
- https://strawpoll.com/zz75h783 - For general PVP (Pirate Mode)
- https://strawpoll.com/y4yzabe1 - Colossus PVP
- https://strawpoll.com/fs5gpb7c - Clan Conquests

There is quite a few votes already on these polls from the pg discord that is set up, but i decided to post here as well for those users that do not currently use discord and only have forum accounts, but would still like the opportunity to get their vote in.

Hopefully with enough voices this issue will get the attention of the developers and they will do something about it

 

[katana88]

Hi Mala
Thank you for this poll mate.

My opinion here shortly:
Argument over this is pointless.
There are pay to win and also free to win games.
PG developers proved they want their game free to win ( for example removing engine booster and alloy from pvp and etc.)
Removing graviton is just one more step our devs need to make.
So me and my friends look forward on you, now its your turn, developers.

 

[Peter Galaxio 1999]

Hello agian mate , I have made my choice , in Normal PVP i think there is No need for restrictions as of course there are some Bubble heads out there who might use this as for some weird trick , ( aside from Pros ) the ANTI-Noob killing System is not gonna protect noobs ( at this one pros can also suck ) or Pros , for what save a Random pilot from being harrased during Normal PVP round ? or whatever was the cause for him to be in PM in the first place . Ganging , Noob farming , Stalking all sort of techniques some Lollypop lickers use to Lure in sum player just to get bounty , the only thing left for them is Just gravie spamming, so its Not reasonable to remove Garvie from Normal PM , As for Collosus , yea it kinda make since for Garvie restricted , but should me make Sum graves , not all gravies banned ? , anyhow Also teaming may result in gravie spaming , so i think 50% on it , as for conquest , Yup i agree as for that is a Province Race and it should be won Gloriously ^^ , thus only true skill is needed .


What the deffrance between the 3 ?
1st : PVP is a matter of total agreement not just sum ballsy noob and Cunning pro Trickry ( can go the other way also ) So restrections can result in Purification of a Proplem which is Rainbow kill , and birth of new Proplem
The good Ol' realiable methodes of bounty system reharsal , by grinding noobs and what ever else . so be considrate about this topic espically


2nd : Colossus is Also an arena of fighting , so graves should be restrcited , but again what would stop some noob or bored lvl 85 noobs from teaming and cause the salty phenomena of rage quitting ? thats right , the counter for teaming is rainbow killings so also think it from the otherway Lol


3rd : Conquest is a battle for the best clan , not the richest , plus there is a gravie system in the clan conquest so i think its not a matter of gravies spamming , plus as i said there should be restrictions to gravies , like only random pilots can use them or The Mothership only can use em plus i think they should apply cryo vaults in conqest as some player dont just spend Mommy and daddy money of some stuff in game
consider reading all

 

[_Prometheus_]

Thanks for the poll!
I just voted and wanted to say only 1 thing:
Gravitons are ORIGINALLY pve things! Because gravitons drops from Mnatises(PVE).. So they can be used ONLY for PVE! I think it is at least fair and correct...
I want to repeat, that gravitons using in PVP just DISBALANCED PG PVP system already long time ago.. Devs must think about it carefully

 

[katana88]

Hello agian mate , I have made my choice , in Normal PVP i think there is No need for restrictions as of course there are some Bubble heads out there who might use this as for some weird trick , ( aside from Pros ) the ANTI-Noob killing System is not gonna protect noobs ( at this one pros can also suck ) or Pros , for what save a Random pilot from being harrased during Normal PVP round ? or whatever was the cause for him to be in PM in the first place . Ganging , Noob farming , Stalking all sort of techniques some Lollypop lickers use to Lure in sum player just to get bounty , the only thing left for them is Just gravie spamming, so its Not reasonable to remove Garvie from Normal PM , As for Collosus , yea it kinda make since for Garvie restricted , but should me make Sum graves , not all gravies banned ? , anyhow Also teaming may result in gravie spaming , so i think 50% on it , as for conquest , Yup i agree as for that is a Province Race and it should be won Gloriously ^^ , thus only true skill is needed .


What the deffrance between the 3 ?
1st : PVP is a matter of total agreement not just sum ballsy noob and Cunning pro Trickry ( can go the other way also ) So restrections can result in Purification of a Proplem which is Rainbow kill , and birth of new Proplem
The good Ol' realiable methodes of bounty system reharsal , by grinding noobs and what ever else . so be considrate about this topic espically


2nd : Colossus is Also an arena of fighting , so graves should be restrcited , but again what would stop some noob or bored lvl 85 noobs from teaming and cause the salty phenomena of rage quitting ? thats right , the counter for teaming is rainbow killings so also think it from the otherway Lol


3rd : Conquest is a battle for the best clan , not the richest , plus there is a gravie system in the clan conquest so i think its not a matter of gravies spamming , plus as i said there should be restrictions to gravies , like only random pilots can use them or The Mothership only can use em plus i think they should apply cryo vaults in conqest as some player dont just spend Mommy and daddy money of some stuff in game
consider reading all

Does not matter what kind of fight is it, money should not win over skills.
Imagine there is guy who got skills and effort in game but cannot afford loads of gravis, neither has rich daddy or mommy.. so ? No chance for him and wallet warriors should abuse him every time just because guy has skills but no cash ? Imagine yourself as that guy Peter.
If you tell me PG is pay to play I can answer you it is not. Neither it is pay to win since developers proved it by some updates , making pvp fair.
If you tell me game needs money to run I can tell that there are other sources from where game can get that money. Also many popular games have that free to win politics but they keep running.. Create as many boosters and premium items as you wish, allowing player to advance fast, get items fast BUT it should not have effect in pvp if you want a cool and awesome game guys.
So this topic is already well chewed and decided, now only up to our developer team.

 

[ClockWire]

Lets get this right it's not really about PVP its about CQ's certain clans winning countless Cq's and using gravs, gravs and since some clans cannot compete agaisnt these clans, so you are unable to gather gravitons. If you want to fully make it fair remove cryo vault remove membership when you hit that pirate mode button then it will be based on skill but then what about you have this ROCKET or this OS or this SB see PVP can never be fair, then you have to address ganging/teaming.

This is list can go on and on i say leave it alone and just play the game if you dont like that someone is using graviton go do something else or pvp someone else that doesn't use graviton and this is my opinion it is not an attack on this post i'm just seeing it how it is

 

[katana88]

Lets get this right it's not really about PVP its about CQ's certain clans winning countless Cq's and using gravs, gravs and since some clans cannot compete agaisnt these clans, so you are unable to gather gravitons. If you want to fully make it fair remove cryo vault remove membership when you hit that pirate mode button then it will be based on skill but then what about you have this ROCKET or this OS or this SB see PVP can never be fair, then you have to address ganging/teaming.

This is list can go on and on i say leave it alone and just play the game if you dont like that someone is using graviton go do something else or pvp someone else that doesn't use graviton and this is my opinion it is not an attack on this post i'm just seeing it how it is

You are right about CQ's.
Yes memberships make it also partly unfair for non payers but membership is core of game, its stupid if we ask for removing e usage, it will be really silly since game itself is based on that.
Cry vault has nothing to do with this topic, in some games you even loose items from your equipment when you get killed. 2k cry wont make anyone poor
Complaining about other things you wrote here mate about rocket,os and sb does not make sense. Every ship has its item and its stats. Tank is tank and shock is shock. It is stupid to complain about that, Every ship has its role, its good and bad.
Complaining about ganging is also pointless. When you go in opened pvp, I mean going around red, you can expect several people jumping you,its normal in opened pvp game.
And in the end, I think all of us have right to suggest something to dev team, to discuss our opinions and problems? So we let some people break colossus rules and get cry for nothing ? So we let wallet warriors dominate because they CAN? So we had to let them in past abuse others with their endless speed boosters ? I dont see reason why should we leave all this unfairness alone, game is meant to have fun and we everyone have right to ask something in civil way, thats what we do.

Best Wishes

 

[ClockWire]

Yes but it starts with gravitons till the next things pops up, its really about making it fair and someone having a membership vs someone who doesn't is not fair and then Tech comes into play leave gravitons alone.

If a clan wins them from a CQ and dishes them out to his/her members and that pilot decides to use them in a PVP then thats his choice you dont have to pvp him but this has only come up about gravitons when CQs are finished but if a pilot is getting ganged 4v1 i say he has every right to use them anyway you have my opinion on gravitons leave them alone i hope the devs don't touch them.

 

[katana88]

Yes but it starts with gravitons till the next things pops up, its really about making it fair and someone having a membership vs someone who doesn't is not fair and then Tech comes into play leave gravitons alone.

If a clan wins them from a CQ and dishes them out to his/her members and that pilot decides to use them in a PVP then thats his choice you dont have to pvp him but this has only come up about gravitons when CQs are finished but if a pilot is getting ganged 4v1 i say he has every right to use them anyway you have my opinion on gravitons leave them alone i hope the devs don't touch them.

1) Already explained about membership.
2) ''I dont have to pvp him'' ? lol what if I am red and he jumps me with all the rainbow ? Where is my right ?
3) Ok pilot is ganged and uses grav vs 4. Those 4 will sit and watch ? They wont use gravs ? This argument also has nothing to do with topic.

We hope devs touch it.

 

[ClockWire]

im just stating my opinion as a player and a gm gravs have been around for ages and now there is a problem with them? this whole topic makes no sense last reply till i see something else that peaks my intrest

 

[katana88]

im just stating my opinion as a player and a gm gravs have been around for ages and now there is a problem with them? this whole topic makes no sense last reply till i see something else that peaks my intrest

And I just think you are one of those who cant pod anything without graviton. I dont see other reason why u need it in pvp so much.

 

[ClockWire]

im just stating my opinion as a player and a gm gravs have been around for ages and now there is a problem with them? this whole topic makes no sense last reply till i see something else that peaks my intrest

And I just think you are one of those who cant pod anything without graviton. I dont see other reason why u need it in pvp so much.

PVP is boring to me i did a lot of it back in the day before gravitons when the game was based on full skill to me PVP is dead i bearly log in anyway just waiting for TC Too many Snowflakes nowadays . Anyway stop making me come back to this topic i'm getting notifications i'm looking for something new to talk about lol

 

[-everest-]

im just stating my opinion as a player and a gm gravs have been around for ages and now there is a problem with them? this whole topic makes no sense last reply till i see something else that peaks my intrest

And I just think you are one of those who cant pod anything without graviton. I dont see other reason why u need it in pvp so much.

We pod a lot of ppls without graviton .

& You have the possibility to play with graviton ?? no ?

#Everyday , everyone collect 1 graviton right ?

then u're able to use one during a fight ? why u don"t ?

"Gravitons are ORIGINALLY pve things! Because gravitons drops from Mnatises(PVE).. So they can be used ONLY for PVE! "


That mean if your red's on you can't use gravitons in pve cause you're red ?

 

[katana88]

I am also tired from explaining same and same to you.
Everest, those thing you wrote, I already discussed that before as well.
After all why all of you complaining about gravs if u got skills to win pvp without money?
Yeah I collect grav one per day but someone will buy dozens. Skills should win ,not wallet. I end posting about this untill something new idea appears.

 

[ClockWire]

I am also tired from explaining same and same to you.
Everest, those thing you wrote, I already discussed that before as well.
After all why all of you complaining about gravs if u got skills to win pvp without money?
Yeah I collect grav one per day but someone will buy dozens. Skills should win ,not wallet. I end posting about this untill something new idea appears.

Come on dont be like that you know i love you right ? bit of banter never hurt anyone

 

[flyfighter]

im just stating my opinion as a player and a gm gravs have been around for ages and now there is a problem with them? this whole topic makes no sense last reply till i see something else that peaks my intrest

If you choose to ventilate your strong opinion on this topic i think you should not do that with ur gm account.

this whole topic makes no sense

Ur a community/game manager ur function is not to ridicule our efforts on making this game more joyfuller. Let us silly players like to think we have any power/impact on change of the game by organizing a poll. If u cannot be botherd with this topic why even take the effort to log on with gm account and reply, just let us be. Let the poll speak for itself.

Splitscreen stated they wanted to remove pay to win gameplay,

Ensure that “premium only” items do not affect PVP activities.

Simple.

 

[-everest-]

Splitscreen stated they wanted to remove pay to win gameplay,

Ensure that “premium only” items do not affect PVP activities.

Premium items are Membership,cryovault speed,XP, Bp,damage etc items which cannot be won you have to buy them gravitons can be WON so when you say premium items that means that to make a PVP fair ALL premium items need to be removed

 

[flyfighter]

In the perfect world yes

 

[katana88]

Splitscreen stated they wanted to remove pay to win gameplay,

Ensure that “premium only” items do not affect PVP activities.

Premium items are Membership,cryovault speed,XP, Bp,damage etc items which cannot be won you have to buy them gravitons can be WON so when you say premium items that means that to make a PVP fair ALL premium items need to be removed

How to WIN gravs when some people endless spam it and we , non payers cannot go near it ?
Why none of you comes up with some strong opinions, got bored with explaining 2x2=4

 

[ClockWire]

Highway stated remove pay to win gameplay and you say "premium items do not affect PVP activities" Well isn't Membership and cryo vault premium items? as you cannot win them they have to be bought. Gravitons are semi premium as they can be won via CQ's. So to make all aspect of PVP fair remove everything when you hit that red button membership and cryo vault should turn off if you want to get techincal, this would ensure a full fair PVP but i place you money if the devs did that you would create another poll asking for it to be reinstated you cant have your cake and eat if you remove one you should remove it all