rant

[Draka]

hey ss

playing this game now since 06/06/2009


i don't know if you ss ever read this forum, probably you do has i see from time to time some answer from a ss member. But if there difficult questions gm's or forum leaders allways close thread or give a answer not to the point. And i don't want to say anything about forum leaders or gm's cause they all did a good job along the way.

BUT:


* why there's a difference between gamigo players and ss players:
we gamigo players have to pay double for gold then ss players.

yeah i know you ss started with gamigo as portal so they own our accounts, but for us players doesn't seam fair to pay double. (you can easily port our acounts if not prohibited by gamigo) So that's not our problem, give discount on items instead of gold. All our gamigo players are to far in game to switch to ss.

and for forum leaders don't say this is mentioned before and close it , cause not you should answer, but ss



° as paying member always suported, as it was and it is still a unique game, but the higher system you go you can't play it anymore without paying, thought it was you claim to have a non paying game ?
You ss listened to players to get cr higher, so you did but on the other hand you reduced drop rate. At the end, i never experienced this low cry since start of game. (and i'm even lucky as i payed for cr %)

* i have to admit the new cq system is well done, and also the easter event, but in the end y give away new ships which people have to buy with cr and this cr.... yeah take some days, weeks

° these days to progress you need a paying member in sq and at least cry protection if you want to spare some cry's . I was playing this game for fun, but now seems only for grinding, sry that's no fun for me

sry had to say this, not really leaving this game but won't be online that much as before. Reading french and german posts also, I hope they really listen to request like from players V1,2 hyper , Pbuh , Yann, ....

kind regards draka

 

[pbhuh]

I feel SS and Gamigo Portals are like a store, thats also true, but not totally.

Normally you can change stores if you feel like your old store is way to expensive. We can't.

Thats where I have problems with.

 

[Adrana]

Why should I close this thread? It follows the rules, and I am also bound to my Gamigo account where I use gold as a player.

 

[FalconWar]

hmm you got a point.

 

[Anonymous]

I know that i am just a GM but i will try to answer this best of my ability

Gamigo once hosted Pirate Galaxy and as such still want to keep an interest in the game. So their interest is to maintain their orignal player accounts.

Unfortunally as this is the case Splitscreen cannot transfer account over to their account system.

As for the gold issue Splitscreen have little control over what Gamigo want to charge.

As for reduced items for Gamigo players, Splitscreen cannot do this without making them reduced to everyone.

I know that this is frustrating as i also have a Gamigo player account and wold love to take advantage of the Splitscreen price structure.

But until a time arrives where Gamigo doesnt want to keep an interest in Pirate Galaxy then we are stuck.

Sorry about the bad news guys

 

[pbhuh]

I know that i am just a GM but i will try to answer this best of my ability

Gamigo once owned Pirate Galaxy and as such still want to keep an interest in the game. So their interest is to maintain their orignal player accounts.

Unfortunally as this is the case Splitscreen cannot transfer account over to their account system.

As for the gold issue Splitscreen have little control over what Gamigo want to charge.

As for reduced items for Gamigo players, Splitscreen cannot do this without making them reduced to everyone.

I know that this is frustrating as i also have a Gamigo player account and wold love to take advantage of the Splitscreen price structure.

But until a time arrives where Gamigo doesnt want to keep an interest in Pirate Galaxy then we are stuck.

Sorry about the bad news guys

So what you are saying is that Gamigo has full control about us players and is actually just stealing our money and SS does not even try to find a sollution...

This is both SS and Gamigo's fault,

or they have to allow us to transfer, (what they have done for bigpoint) but I find that unnececary, or gamigo just has to lower their prices.

Oh, wait.

Just got a great sollution, which SS also could have come up with...

how about SS gives less gold for the same price as now / gives the same gold for a higher price etc. so it goes exactly the same as with Gamigo's prices and then SS lowers the gold prices.

I am such a genius sometimes...

I am just waiting till a gm or someone from SS replies to this as:

Don't you get that this is a real buisness?

All I can say to that is, please try to understand it and put it in, a we players feel misthreaten.

 

[Anonymous]

Pbhuh,

You are misinterpreting what i have said. Gamigo does not have full control of the players but rather the Accounts.

It is Gamigo's choice to charge what they will, as it is Splitscreens choice to charge what they do.

Splitscreen cannot "tell" Gamigo how much to charge.

And the fault is with neither company as there is no fault.

The only reason Bigpoint players were allowed to transfer their accounts was because Bigpoint decided they no longer wished to have an interest in Pirate Galaxy.

As I mentioned before, "until Gamigo decide not to have an interest in Pirate Galaxy the Gamigo players are stuck paying the price for gold that Gamigo ask"

the only true options here are buy gold or not that is the control that no company can have as this is your own self-control

 

[pbhuh]

Pbhuh,

You are misinterpreting what i have said. Gamigo does not have full control of the players but rather the Accounts.

It is Gamigo's choice to charge what they will, as it is Splitscreens choice to charge what they do.

Splitscreen cannot "tell" Gamigo how much to charge.

And the fault is with neither company as there is no fault.

The only reason Bigpoint players were allowed to transfer their accounts was because Bigpoint decided they no longer wished to have an interest in Pirate Galaxy.

As I mentioned before, "until Gamigo decide not to have an interest in Pirate Galaxy the Gamigo players are stuck paying the price for gold that Gamigo ask"

the only true options here are buy gold or not that is the control that no company can have as this is your own self-control

Well Splitscreen can also choose to line up there prices with gamigo to make it fair for all players.

Most of us did not have a choice to be Gamigo or SS, we don't want to pay more then SS Players,

thats the point here,

I am sure SS can easily fix this by making their prices higher, but ingame they lower their prices.

Then SS doesn't have to ask Gamigo and then it's much easier solved.

Or SS just asks Gamigo if they want to make their prices the same as that from SS.

Just an easy question...

 

[Anonymous]

Pbhuh,

I am not going to argue with you. There is no reason for Splitscreen to charge more for gold as this will upset the Splitscreen customers.

As i said before what Gamigo wish to charge is up to Gamigo, this issue has nothing to do with Splitscreen

 

[pbhuh]

Pbhuh,

I am not going to argue with you. There is no reason for Splitscreen to charge more for gold as this will upset the Splitscreen customers.

As i said before what Gamigo wish to charge is up to Gamigo, this issue has nothing to do with Splitscreen

Sad that you won't argue, probebly because you are can't fix it, But SS can...

But I think everyone understands that this is SS game and that if you are a Gamigo User, you are gonna have to pay more then SS users while We didn't get the chance to choose, but still pay the price...

It's not fair, everyone knows it, but no-one fixes it.

there are 2 solutions and I don't even feel that SS or Gamigo take the effort do something about it.

I bet that SS or Gamigo can come up with even better solutions, but as I sad, we don't see them chatting here.

Can't Gamigo get anyone that represent them, if they want to keep in contact with this game they also have to have some kind of place where we can discuss these kind of issues...

I am aware that this is a real buisnuiss, but I feel like no-one even cares about the costumers...

 

[Gorgon706]

pbhuh what you just said of your last post i find it to be the truth if gamigo would have a repersentive to listen to us i mean look at (uk) phone companies you have O2 orange talk talk and many many more but orange which i am applying for a job there it looks after its customers it wants to know what the customers would find better same with O2 not 100% sure with talk talk but i know they have great packages but my point is orange and O2 care about there customers and the customers respect it now please gms could you ask a SS rep to contact gamigo and have them put a rep on here for gamigo as i believe we need it to sort this out once and for all !

 

[lance]

I know that i am just a GM but i will try to answer this best of my ability

Gamigo once owned Pirate Galaxy and as such still want to keep an interest in the game. So their interest is to maintain their orignal player accounts.

Unfortunally as this is the case Splitscreen cannot transfer account over to their account system.

As for the gold issue Splitscreen have little control over what Gamigo want to charge.

As for reduced items for Gamigo players, Splitscreen cannot do this without making them reduced to everyone.

I know that this is frustrating as i also have a Gamigo player account and wold love to take advantage of the Splitscreen price structure.

But until a time arrives where Gamigo doesnt want to keep an interest in Pirate Galaxy then we are stuck.

Sorry about the bad news guys

So what you are saying is that Gamigo has full control about us players and is actually just stealing our money and SS does not even try to find a sollution...

This is both SS and Gamigo's fault,

or they have to allow us to transfer, (what they have done for bigpoint) but I find that unnececary, or gamigo just has to lower their prices.

Oh, wait.

Just got a great sollution, which SS also could have come up with...

how about SS gives less gold for the same price as now / gives the same gold for a higher price etc. so it goes exactly the same as with Gamigo's prices and then SS lowers the gold prices.

I am such a genius sometimes...

I am just waiting till a gm or someone from SS replies to this as:

Don't you get that this is a real buisness?

All I can say to that is, please try to understand it and put it in, a we players feel misthreaten.

Your idea of marketing techniques is very questionable.

All that will do is make SS account holders pay more in the short term. Just because SS lower their prices again doesn't mean Gamigo will suddenly realise that they need to cut their prices too. That's not how it works. Gamigo are charging more (I think) because as the amount of gamigo account holders decreases (they are all quitting, and for good reason) gamigo has to charge the remaining of players more in order for their share in the game to be worthwhile.

However I do not know the precise nature of the agreement so I don't know how it works, that's just my guess. Gamigo probably have a percentage share in the SS accounts too, but again this is a question only a SS employee can answer, but probably never will.

I reckon eventually Gamigo will release their hold on the game entirely as their account holders quit more. Perhaps our accounts will eventually change over, but who knows.

Remember, Gamigo wouldn't have a hold of our accounts if they didn't gain money from it. That's what it all boils down to. Thinking in business terms what you are suggesting is very unwise, so It wont happen.

 

[Gorgon706]

yes but lance bud u have our POV its annoying where putting hard earned money into gamigo and we dont get any gamigo rep to tell us anythink to ask us whether where happy or not, to take polls nothing i think gamigo needs to relise this as more and more people will quit and tbh i might only be lvl 39 but its a shock to me mate i want to put some money on sure im getting gold but its the amount im getting we need gamigo rep on these forums atleast!

 

[lance]

yes but lance bud u have our POV its annoying where putting hard earned money into gamigo and we dont get any gamigo rep to tell us anythink to ask us whether where happy or not, to take polls nothing i think gamigo needs to relise this as more and more people will quit and tbh i might only be lvl 39 but its a shock to me mate i want to put some money on sure im getting gold but its the amount im getting we need gamigo rep on these forums atleast!

trust me, i know... I started off with gamigo too because i didn't foresee the take-over. What im saying is that despite the fact we can rant at them all we want from a business perspective they would have to shoot themselves in the foot to appease us. So its very unlikely Gamigo (because this is no longer their game and only a method of making money for them) will cut prices to those of SS.

 

[DivineWind]

TOTALLY DISGUSTED TO READ THIS!!!!

As a buyer of gold from gamigo I am incensed to read that I am paying a higher price than SS. If this practice occurred in any other part of commerce there would be law suits. While it is ok for different firms to charge different prices for the same goods it is totally not ok and in fact against the law in most countries for a company to force a customer to stay with them (refusal to transfer Gamigo accounts to SS) and therefore deny a consumer the right of choice.

As has been previously mentioned, most Gamigo account holders are long term players and have neither the time or the inclination to create a new SS account. Who is at fault? Well to me it smacks of poor contract negotiation at the outset. Company A (Gamigo) decides to sell or transfer all rights to Company B (SS) but remains in control of current customers (and charges more). Company B takes over development of the game but does not gain the full financial result of such (because Company A still receives the revenue from a % of customers who still benefit from product development). Who would agree to such a thing?

Unless, of course, Company B hopes to eventually ostracise and force all of Company A's customers to either stop buying the product, or open up a new account with Company B.

Disgraceful to say the least (especially given the fact that Gamigo cares not one jot for those on the gamigo account system).

Why, back when SS took over were all players not notified of price differences? Now, with changes to the game (and as told to me by a senior GM that (sic) "the further you get in a game then the less you should expect for free") it seems that Gamigo players are being unfairly treated and being penalized for their devotion to, and support of, the game. And to say "its their fault not ours" is a poor response.

Discrimination pure and simple.

 

[Adrana]

This is nothing we can do about it, I am fearful of what one day will happen if Gamigo give up on us old accountholders, will our account cease to exist totally that day?

It is true as Yorkie wrote here before, Gamigo is free to do what they do, and SS has not to follow their steps and path in anything.

About having a Gamigo representative here at the forum, Osirus was here for some time, in his player account JudgeDredd, to be as support here for Gamigo account holders, but his last visit to this forum was: Thu Aug 05, 2010.
So apparently the only way you can contact and let them know about your opinions is to login to your gaS account, and write it in a ticket to Gamigo.

That will however not change anything in what comes to prices of gold etc. SS has the right to do as they wish, likewise Gamigo.

Now please keep this thread clean, no flaming etc, if you want it to remain open, or otherwise I have to put a lock on this!