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today i noticed that the emperor has 5% less armor in relation to the rdx ships. that's okay, but if you look at the price difference, the whole thing doesn't work well. why is it that this ship costs exactly as much as an rdx ship but is rated lower? Can't we give this ship what it deserves? I think the ship has suffered enormously from the armor adjustments in recent years

let me know what u all think...

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Prototype bonus 20% ---------Raven bonus 25%
 

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Good point, newer thought about that. Let's calculate the armor bonus price.

685900 / 25% (rdx Armor) = 27436 cry (1% Armor)

27436 * 5% (Missing Armor) = 137180 cry cheaper

Maybe half the price bcuz of the ship bonus
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Hello @KingSub ,

The argument u give can be completely understandable, but i wonder if 10.400 cryonite is really a big deal on those days :p. Changing the price of the ship at this point would lead to possible complains on those player that paid the ship + the armor with this super small increase.
 

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Hello @KingSub ,

The argument u give can be completely understandable, but i wonder if 10.400 cryonite is really a big deal on those days :p. Changing the price of the ship at this point would lead to possible complains on those player that paid the ship + the armor with this super small increase.
complaints?😳 the armor of the emperor were changed. were we asked about it? do not think so. that was a real tank as the description tells us .. the ship has seen better days, a fight against the giza? not possible today with ancient armor. it's all about the principle. 😜

+++ i want to buy the ship, but the chromian is better. why? he has speed and orb and the trap + armor is pretty good .. what has the emp.? thermo, protector and a handbrake on the armor ❗

tell me fission, not as a gm but as a player in our position. is this fair?
 

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If you would really go down this line then EVERY Parsec/RDX classed ship would need to get adjusted to the prices in comparision to normal ships.

I mean an Anln Parsec Classed ship that is only its bare hull has the price of any mizar ship (excluding rares) that is ~90.13 times higher BUT only gives just a laughable 20% Armor Bonus. For RDX classed ships (even if they have no comparable base ship) it ~91,53 times the price of a mizar ship hull.

Considering that Parsec classes ships where more focused into being the "Prestige ships of the game due of their price" this status has been thrown out of the windo long ago when Siri and since the TC Update farming any Parsec ship has become a matter of at least 1 week at best depending on the time and effort you put into them. If the price of a ship would actually reflect it´s total armor all Parsec ships would be insanly OP and all other ships would become obsolete from Mizar on.

Aside from that the difference of 10.500 Cryonite is not that much of a deal cus this is either 1 SU, 2-3 MU, 4-5 WU or 8-12 TC drops (depending on the spot and the unit you hunt of course along with RNGesus)
 

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If you would really go down this line then EVERY Parsec/RDX classed ship would need to get adjusted to the prices in comparision to normal ships.

I mean an Anln Parsec Classed ship that is only its bare hull has the price of any mizar ship (excluding rares) that is ~90.13 times higher BUT only gives just a laughable 20% Armor Bonus. For RDX classed ships (even if they have no comparable base ship) it ~91,53 times the price of a mizar ship hull.

Considering that Parsec classes ships where more focused into being the "Prestige ships of the game due of their price" this status has been thrown out of the windo long ago when Siri and since the TC Update farming any Parsec ship has become a matter of at least 1 week at best depending on the time and effort you put into them. If the price of a ship would actually reflect it´s total armor all Parsec ships would be insanly OP and all other ships would become obsolete from Mizar on.

Aside from that the difference of 10.500 Cryonite is not that much of a deal cus this is either 1 SU, 2-3 MU, 4-5 WU or 8-12 TC drops (depending on the spot and the unit you hunt of course along with RNGesus)
I also have the feeling that the Parsec ship classes are slowly "fading" and attractive there is really nothing more. let's leave out the cryo, everyone collects as he can and wants. let's leave everything outside.

the armor of the ships varies from system to system. mizar sol and draconis work fine (actually pretty much the same) sol works the best. why? very easily. the parsec storm, for example, has enormous armor and even has 10% more than the x-sniper. that means the parsec ships have more armor than the golden variant, which is a very good thing. But now there is the fear that this or next year will be canceled because of the rare ne0n ships (they have already blunted the parsec classes)

by comparison, everything starts with sirius. Why? mhhhh .... old armor 85 ... new 82 ... do you notice what? that affects the next armor enormously! ... that's where it starts and that's where the mistake is why the ships pound so hard. But that's not all. not only the level mechanism of the blueprints / armor were changed but the ships themselves. Let's take as an example. Parsec Storm Ancient Armor 85 vs Parsec Storm Ancient Armor 82. who wins? higher level or lower level?

I can tell you one thing, the upgrade from Ancient armor to Tau ceti is simple ...its just Double armor. even less for the ne0n ships bout 10%-20% why that? ... mhh they have very good armor at the beginning, especially thunderbird and hawkmoth.

Enough from me. it's your turn Vesperion 😜
 

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The main difference and difficult part is trying to compare class based ships vs. hybrid ships cus it gives no real way to compare the hybrids to any other class based ship per se cus those ships are "unique" all the time.

They are more put into a certain class due they may have the same armor but play differently anyways. If we take the Hunter alone it has a pretty good single target dmg what puts it in theory into the storm class but the armor of it feels more like a Stunner/Engi class hence the millions of cryo that you throw against it to make the armor 0.1 millimeter thicker to hold out a bit longer :sweatgrinning:

That´s why i said if cryo should define how much HP a ship would have at the end it would lead to the version "All Parsecs have the same armor and would make all other ships obsolete cus no matter what armor your parsec would have it would be at least x-times more then the ship of the system you are in". In the end it does not really matter how much HP you have cus you can give a Pilot 1 Million HP but if they can not use the ship they fly efficently even 1 Million HP will not prevent them from pod ;)
 
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