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Ok i want every1's Views on this subject and mainly LZ being red and podding players landing now if they are on a sm which they need to do and not redoing for achievements if they get podded which does happen dont cry get up and just put the mission on again and stay white now tbh i dont mind being podded on the lz as i land by reds but i completly hate the idea of a defender placing mines on a lower map and killing little ships like that its no need and i believe that all the moaning which has been going on has made the coc change which is ruining the game for us its not harrassment what i pod a red because they CHOOSE keyword there CHOOSE whether or not they wish to be podded possibly or stay safe!

HONESTLY CAST YOUR OPINION WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE!!!

I vote we should be allowed to be red on LZ and pod reds on the LZ such as draco vs draco and not draco vs vega
same for clan battles or alliance battles!!
 

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This has already been discussed in the "Red = Dead " Topic.

http://forum.pirategalaxy.com/viewtopic.php?f=320&t=18231&start=60#p116640
 

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if you read this topic m8 its actully differant to red is dead as red is dead is about is it fair to pod a lower ship in a draco and stuff like that this is about whether the rule not pvping on the lz and i would like some peoples thoughts!
 
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If you will be allowed to get your thought through, this will interfere in normal gameplay of players, even thou many of you think red is dead, it doesn't mean that people should never go red for to do their missions with pm on, it is a choice what is possible and allowed.

But this would cut it totally cause of higher system tech as mines etc.

This didn't existed in old days before Draconis, therefore players didn't either had such powerful weapons what could be used on lz and what can affect everyone who will eventually land pm on.

This change of rules came cause some players were irresponsible and implant mines on lz, what of course interfered with normal gameplay of other people.
What happened was that higher level players as well went to lower system planets LZ's and put mines on lz.
All new rules has been created upon the acts of the players themselves, it has been caused, and it has been seen it is interfering with normal gameplay for other players.

Now what you are requesting will tell, Red is Dead, we can be red, but others who doesn't pvp with us, cannot be.

Well think of it, and think twice, no, 3 times of what you are requesting, and what many are moaning about when they want to fight on Lz's.
 

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I was on gazica, and someone came by, in pirate mode, and in a enemy clan, i saw invisible mantis n the hill i was on, so i asked if they were on a sm, without reply, they, and another killed me and i didnt even get to fire a shot back. Then to even it out, i asked 2 of my friends to help because there was 4 of them red, and only 1 of me. So we 3 found them, killed them, and then one of them starts crying about how we killed them on a sm. Now is it fair to kill someone on a sm, if they killed you wile there on there sm?
 

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1st, plz use . , ? etc. and 2nd, It's the pirate-thing about the game, pirates are untrustworthy, you remember?
4 me it's not such a huche prob, and I get shot down (at least) 2/3 times a week.
 

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Adrana said:
If you will be allowed to get your thought through, this will interfere in normal gameplay of players, even thou many of you think red is dead, it doesn't mean that people should never go red for to do their missions with pm on, it is a choice what is possible and allowed.

But this would cut it totally cause of higher system tech as mines etc.

This didn't existed in old days before Draconis, therefore players didn't either had such powerful weapons what could be used on lz and what can affect everyone who will eventually land pm on.

This change of rules came cause some players were irresponsible and implant mines on lz, what of course interfered with normal gameplay of other people.
What happened was that higher level players as well went to lower system planets LZ's and put mines on lz.
All new rules has been created upon the acts of the players themselves, it has been caused, and it has been seen it is interfering with normal gameplay for other players.

Now what you are requesting will tell, Red is Dead, we can be red, but others who doesn't pvp with us, cannot be.

Well think of it, and think twice, no, 3 times of what you are requesting, and what many are moaning about when they want to fight on Lz's.

it was later told u could not use it either on e field etc, or somewhere bit away lz, but ppl must understand a item to used red or not red, u can simply ab away, or just shoot them down, any splash items goes ok, and laying 6 mines would be like 2v1, so should it be allowed to be reds at lz at all? the answer is easy it's your own risk, it's why u got a bounty on your head, it's why it's achievements to pod ships, the game is pvp, whoever u do it or, what system class u use it or not, it is all ok cus it's on your own risk! the insant u press the PM you've agreed for the possible risk to get podded, and no i do not say go pod lower system players or lay ,mines on lz, but i simply say pm is your own risk, as many other says!
 

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Thats my mening to, GOOD WORDS RIDOI :D :mrorange: :D :mrorange: :D :mrorange: :D :mrorange:
And Im not such advanced player, I'm in Gem :sneaky:
 

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what about a safe area on landing zone? safe spot where reds cant put mines, where reds cant shoot each other ( in the area ) , that would be good for the noobs, so they dont get poded instantly by noob killers, other thing, if you red just dont complain when you die, if you dont want to die or not die "easily" just buy a shock and run or DONT PRESS THE BUTTON! simple as that :devilish: , i'm always red and i shoot everything i see, offcourse i try not poding lower system ships.

Have fun and pod eveyone :cool:
 

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I do not get where is the problem here.
The game does not in any way force the player to be in PM, so why is this a problem? I mean if u are in PM u should be considering the dangers, unless u are a noob of course. I can see ur point with placing mines in low lvl planets, but thats as unfair as 1 shooting a noob.

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OK I say it again, PM means Pod Me! Please try to not talk more about, keep it simple, it says what is gonna happen Pirate Mode or rather said Pod Me! As many said PM is not forced making stupid rules as podding someone lower or high doesn't matter, the agreement was, you turn pm on, you will eventually get podded, very simple, aint it?
 
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134679hun said:
I was on gazica, and someone came by, in pirate mode, and in a enemy clan, i saw invisible mantis n the hill i was on, so i asked if they were on a sm, without reply, they, and another killed me and i didnt even get to fire a shot back. Then to even it out, i asked 2 of my friends to help because there was 4 of them red, and only 1 of me. So we 3 found them, killed them, and then one of them starts crying about how we killed them on a sm. Now is it fair to kill someone on a sm, if they killed you wile there on there sm?
When it comes to Red is Dead, Fair is not an option. One party or the other will complain about this or that, "I wasn't ready", "were on a sm" or my personal favorite "I was grinding!"..

There are no exceptions to the "Red is Dead" rule. None.

If you are red, you WILL die. End of story.

As far as the idea of not being able to shoot on the lz.. I think that is rather stupid.. Why? Here's why:

1. If you get podded on the LZ, reporting it to the gms is easier than making them code the lz into a nooby safe area.

2. When you want to 1v1 someone, where do you do it?

2.a. Where will you now do a 1v1?

3. PM (aka Pirate Mode, Pvp Mode, Pod Me, etc), is a choice. You can't be podded in the lz if you didn't agree to the risks of PM.

I mean come on people.. Sure no one likes a lvl 80 drac sniper to show up with sirius tech and blow a lvl 10 out of the water with an OS.. but there is no reason he cannot. When you click the PM button you sign your death warrant. It does not, however, say that you have to be podded by same system ship/tech!

Ok, I'm going to stop before I get wound up XD
 
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134679hun said:
I was on gazica, and someone came by, in pirate mode, and in a enemy clan, i saw invisible mantis n the hill i was on, so i asked if they were on a sm, without reply, they, and another killed me and i didnt even get to fire a shot back. Then to even it out, i asked 2 of my friends to help because there was 4 of them red, and only 1 of me. So we 3 found them, killed them, and then one of them starts crying about how we killed them on a sm. Now is it fair to kill someone on a sm, if they killed you wile there on there sm?
When it comes to Red is Dead, Fair is not an option. One party or the other will complain about this or that, "I wasn't ready", "were on a sm" or my personal favorite "I was grinding!"..

There are no exceptions to the "Red is Dead" rule. None.

If you are red, you WILL die. End of story.

As far as the idea of not being able to shoot on the lz.. I think that is rather stupid.. Why? Here's why:

1. If you get podded on the LZ, reporting it to the gms is easier than making them code the lz into a nooby safe area.

2. When you want to 1v1 someone, where do you do it?

2.a. Where will you now do a 1v1?

3. PM (aka Pirate Mode, Pvp Mode, Pod Me, etc), is a choice. You can't be podded in the lz if you didn't agree to the risks of PM.

I mean come on people.. Sure no one likes a lvl 80 drac sniper to show up with sirius tech and blow a lvl 10 out of the water with an OS.. but there is no reason he cannot. When you click the PM button you sign your death warrant. It does not, however, say that you have to be podded by same system ship/tech!

Ok, I'm going to stop before I get wound up XD
I totally agree with you here, as you said "read i dead". When I put PM on, I know I'll en up dying, no matter in which conditions: doing SM, grinding, exterminated by a full squad of people I take down 1VS1.

Honestly I don't care, because when I put PM on I know it's for PvP, nothing more, I'm doing SM ? fine it's add some challenge.

PM mean risk, even when you're a low level players, I'm not exactly the type of player, who one shot a vega with draconis ship. But If i'm doing wathever I do on low level planets and a red cross my way. I don't care how many they are and which ships they used, I start blasting... Ok that point lead me to useless deaths When I tried to kill 3 or more pilots on my own lol.

My point is, it's Called Pirate Mode, in a game called Pirate Galaxy, so yes "red is dead" no matter how, and it's a choice to put it on, anyway you're withe when you get podded right? so no more risk...
 
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Uriel, I see you are a Trantor Pilot, are you familiar with the style of gaming on English & International server, that will say with our rules what comes to pod low level players in low tech and you in high?
 
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Hello Adrana,

I sometimes show up with my lvl 14 account on askone ^^ always in red so I'm used to PvP on askone ;)

For your rules that prevent low lvl players not to get podded by high rank tech, we had the same rules on trantor long ago, and I liked it ( a shame it has been removed), it makes Vega a great place to fight with every pilot with vega tech.

Like I said I'm not exactly the type of players that kill a vega with a drac ship. But my point is, PM lead to risk and at the end you get pod no matter how.

PM is a choice, that no one make for you, you're the only one who can activate it. So I can't agree with those who complain about it, for some reason like doing SM grinding, just land, etc....

I get pod lot of times, doing SM, grinding, anyway I never complain about it because in the first place I'm the one who put PM on,not the pilot(s) who podded me.
 

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Uriel said:
Hello Adrana,

I sometimes show up with my lvl 14 account on askone ^^ always in red so I'm used to PvP on askone ;)

For your rules that prevent low lvl players not to get podded by high rank tech, we had the same rules on trantor long ago, and I liked it ( a shame it has been removed), it makes Vega a great place to fight with every pilot with vega tech.

Like I said I'm not exactly the type of players that kill a vega with a drac ship. But my point is, PM lead to risk and at the end you get pod no matter how.

PM is a choice, that no one make for you, you're the only one who can activate it. So I can't agree with those who complain about it, for some reason like doing SM grinding, just land, etc....

I get pod lot of times, doing SM, grinding, anyway I never complain about it because in the first place I'm the one who put PM on,not the pilot(s) who podded me.

Uriel mate, I already like you :)
 

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Pirate Mode is useless to me, I only care about the PvE, aka, fighting Mantis/Imperials/Methanoids/Pirates/Ancients.
 
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Pirate Mode is useless to me, I only care about the PvE, aka, fighting Mantis/Imperials/Methanoids/Pirates/Ancients.
thank you Selkath you show exactly what I mean, PM is a choice, and the game is still pretty fun without it.
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Uriel mate, I already like you :)
really? I don't think you would said that after fighting with me ^^ maybe oneday I'll finish my aninX shock on askone and hope I can have some fight with you :devilish:
 

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regardless of there ship class or lv, if someone noob kills a lower lv in the clan or alliance ill kill em
 
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134679hun said:
regardless of there ship class or lv, if someone noob kills a lower lv in the clan or alliance ill kill em
So hypothetically me and you are level 80. Your clan member is flying a r70 storm, he is rank 79. I pod him, is that noob podding?

Yes?: That's retarded. Get over it. Everyone is always willing to pod lower tech people, just the way it is. I find myself in a non-rare sniper beating rared dominaters all the time. Yet they complain. So unless it is the same level and exact same tech/ship & they win... It's noob podding?

No?: what makes it noob podding? The fact that they are 40 levels lower than me?

Let me ask you this.. I podded a Mizar ship with baumar tech on it, in my rared Gemini Storm. I was level 72 at the time and he was under level 40. Was that also noob podding?

At some point people are going to have to grow up and just not go red. It cannot be that impossible to grasp 3 words, "Red is Dead". If you click it, you WILL DIE. End of story.

Now someone explain to me why it is that you must pod someone countless times because he had a fair pvp with a low lvl and won? If I had lost, they would not have put me on kos nor thought twice about it unless they are making fun of the loser. Yet, because people will not accept the rules of the game, they hold grudges, make war, cuss, and generally make the game an un-fun place to be.

They need to make so when you click the skull, it stops every sound and movement for that player, then bring up a message in massive bold letters saying "YOU WILL BE PODDED IF YOU CLICK THIS! DO NOT CLICK "ACCEPT" UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO DIE! DO NOT TURN PIRATE MODE ON FOR EXTRA XP UNLESS YOU ARE WILLIG TO DIE! ANY CONFIRMED WHINING AND COMPLAINING AFTER BEING PODDED BY A PLAYER WILL RESULT IN A PIRATE MODE BAN FOR A WEEK."

Then maybe some would finally start to understand the risks.
 
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