Pirate mode: Harassment vs "Red is Dead" issue

[Adrana]

He meant entire game as for = The whole game, the normal game play with sm's and wm's etc without achievements.

 

[Armageddon]

well so what was it wrong ith the old style that u guys decided to change it this one suckking big time lol'

Without going into a long Technical Speech - Here is a Short Version:

The "Old" PM did not match well with the "NEW" Game Coding and may have caused unexplainable Issues

Are you sure the developers and SS staff aren't just being lazy?

Or are they denying this for more "profit".

I believe it's both, it sickens me!

 

[LordWilly]

I was referring to Standard Gameplay and Story Missions. Achievements are nice but im not a try hard and know i wont get them all. Games arent just for points on some board, they are for fun atleast to me

 

[Ghost division Kane]

This has become a very serious problem within entire Pirate Galaxy community. Either you will punish players with big ships who attack small ships, or you not, but that rule must be in that lexicon of rules. The fact that you havent decided what to do yet, leaves much space for corruption.
30 minutes ago Dark-Revan1 attacked me with parsec. A PARSEC with DRACONIS tech!!!!! I was in Sol sniper ship with no sniper blaster, attack droid and many more components, because they are all coming from gold bps. When I asked him why he did it, he couldnt answer. He had no guts to admit that he was doing something wrong because he can and other people cant.
You are suppose to say once and for all Red is dead, or else, or this is becoming VERY VERY UNFAIR GAME.

 

[datajam]

Listen folks,

It is really quite simple. Nobody goes "red" without the realization that sooner or later they will get podded. And simply put, "RED=DEAD" regardless of tech, system, or rank. Sure there will be some less than fair players that will come after you in bigger stronger ships, but recognize them for the kind of player they are and just move on. Either way, sooner or later you were going to get podded by somebody anyway. The only pilots that have the ability to go red without being in fear of being podded, GM's.

So, quit the arguing, complaining, and trying to make this issue more complex than it is. Red=Dead! No questions. Remember, it is all in your decision making process. And, you have the choice and make the choice. Get back to playing the game and having fun.

datajam/WRichards

 

[WRAITH1]

now if til now red was totally "optional" , guess what, sirius kinda changes the aspect a bit. im not writing to complain either way im just posting it to players attention tht even those tht dont want to pvp can get into "crossfire" throught the fact tht if ur an engi in sirius and want to b able to repair all u encounter on a sirius planet u are "forced" to turn red.
now u may say tell ur whole clan not to turn red, sounds easy in theory but isnt practical + sometimes u see by chance a friend tht is running away in flames and want to b able to assist.

just saying its theoretically still a "choice" but..... maybe ull understand when u get there.
(also its a pain when u return from sirius in the morning and looking for players to pod u.)

+maybe theres a danger later for clan on clan harassment u find out the enemy clans jump ship location and jump there.

 

[CrypticTundra]

New to the game so I am not sure if I following what the problem is.People expect to be able to fly around freely while in PM without getting podded?

1 click 1 kill 0.o whats so hard to understand about that... dont click the dang button.

 

[attack]

Personally I do not agree with the dumb ideas people are giving into this game, sure we gotta help and defend the noobs, sure most of us have morals that pvp needs to be fair, and surely we all basicly just want to have fun, level up and gain more xp. But the last few ideas about restricting the game from being less fun from what it has already been I certainly do not want to be restricted Ship type from going to another planets, nor do I want diffrent types of Pirate Mode on at all. This game follows by the rule of democracy, by giving you all pilots the decision to whether or not take the risk to go red or not, there should not even be such thing as an harrassment, harrassment or bullying is when your messing with someone's goal of achievement, like for example not letting people to finish their sms by starting to contradict other people's sms with more ghost mantis, or starting sms to make ghosts that can somehow bug and kill other players not in the sm while their busy doing other things, the point is the harrassment should not be even pointed forth as an issue when going red, you all have a choice whether you want to go red or not. The system warns you before going red at all times, you want more xp? your taking the risk to pod for 2-3% more xp while going red, or for achievements because thats something that should not be taken for granted as a safety flag, if a player cusses at you or laughs and taunts at your level thats another story, thats harrassment. We were all vega at some point and we all had to face the same problems over people having bigger guns and ships, but debating about such thing is just a huge waste of time, if anything the only thing PG devs should make is a better warning system on newer players that going red will get them killed, if you dont wanna die dont go red, if you want the lil 2-3% xp boost but dont wanna die, then dont bother going red unless your going to take the chance on your own.

Theres other players that have things to do, rather then coming to newbie ships being podded by big ships, waste of time and energy, if you went red and died that seems like a YOU problem because your the only one who click the I accept button to go red. Better just get along and play the game on how already good it is.

 

[Adrana]

Re: Pirate mode: Harassment vs "Red is Dead" issue
postby attack » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:23 am

like for example not letting people to finish their sms by starting to contradict other people's sms with more ghost mantis, or starting sms to make ghosts that can somehow bug and kill other players not in the sm while their busy doing other things,

I have no idea what you are writing here about ghost mantis, there are absolutely no mission mantis what can interfere with any player who is not doing the mission.
There were some bugs in very old times what had mission mantis being able to attack outside the mission, but that has been over a year ago.

The system warns you before going red at all times,
if anything the only thing PG devs should make is a better warning system on newer players that going red will get them killed, if you dont wanna die dont go red, if you want the lil 2-3% xp boost but dont wanna die, then dont bother going red unless your going to take the chance on your own.

You are first stating, there is a warning in the system before pm is switch on, then you are saying the only change devs should do is to have a warning??

Theres other players that have things to do, rather then coming to newbie ships being podded by big ships, waste of time and energy, if you went red and died that seems like a YOU problem because your the only one who click the I accept button to go red. Better just get along and play the game on how already good it is.

You have no idea how many high tech/level pilots just go for low systems to pod new players.

But, this is after all a pirate game, and the PM mode is there for to possibly use it, it is active when a player becomes level 10, I can perfectly understand the new players switching it on and trying some pvp's between them, but it is nor shall anytime be an invitation for players to rush on those low players with higher system ship and tech for to pod them, just cause they have pm on.
It only gives 5% extra xp when there is a bounty over the head of user, otherwise if there is 0 cry bounty, it will not give any extra xp.

As it is now, 1 system higher ship and tech that is a good choice also to protect new players from being slaughtered by players eg. in Draconis ships and tech.

 

[The Rage]

i think if your red your dead simple as no matter what. There should be NO limits in pvp, if your red and on a mission and get podded and keep landing red and keep getting podded even if its by the same player THEN DONT KEEP LANDING RED, this isnt greving a player if the player is stupid enough to keep switching pm on when in a mission, if your red you take the risk of being podded any time any place anywhere and as many time as it takes, im sick of all this bull in game you cant fight at lz you cant fight at e field, 1 year ago we never had these rules and no one cried like they do today, the newer gen of players in this game cry cry cry all the time and its not there fault its splitscreens fault cos all they are trying to do is protect there NEW money with making all these new rules up to wrap new players in cotton wool so they spend cash, well im sorry if your red your dead and i will pod you as many times as i like, cos i pay for this game and i see it as if you try stop me for enjoying this game then YOUR GREVING ME

 

[Ventnor]

Why else would we have a bounty system???????????
If i have a bounty i fully expect to be hunted down and podded, it was my choice to go red. The only thing i dont like is ppl podding lower lvl Tech, i always end up hunting the same noob around the systems for doing that.
So next time I hunt my favourite target and he shouts "im harrasing him", just remember why im hunting you and just to clarify things, I have done my game to the end and find that when "You" sit in orbit not willing to land it IS interfering with my game play as im here to hunt you. ^^

 

[ridoi]

It is fun to pod the noob poders, cus they call everyone noobs, even us high level player, some of them are funny, but some are very rude, and u get the point , PM= Pod Me, it says on the short cut xD

 

[Proteus1959]

Like most players, I have to agree that running around with a bounty is asking for trouble, and to some degree, it matters not where or from whom that trouble comes. I would like to get my red missions done and gain the achievement as do most players and fully expect to get podded by someone wanting the 800 pts., which by the way, means absolutely nothing. It doesn't even prove you are better than anyone else or even close. Shoot all week long if you like. Then just before the change, pray some "noob" with a random OS doesn't hit you by accident. All bragging rights gone. Nothing to show, just as everyone else you have podded on the way. Pirates steal! Pirates don't hunt down ships that they know to be empty unless they want that ship, which by the way you can't have! Bounty says "Come get me!" Red without a bounty says nothing. If you want to PvP, go to your corners and come out fighting after a fair countdown. Players without a bounty, in my opinion, shouldn't even be listed and attacking one, not defending against an attack, should be penalized. Just a thought!

 

[ridoi]

Like most players, I have to agree that running around with a bounty is asking for trouble, and to some degree, it matters not where or from whom that trouble comes. I would like to get my red missions done and gain the achievement as do most players and fully expect to get podded by someone wanting the 800 pts., which by the way, means absolutely nothing. It doesn't even prove you are better than anyone else or even close. Shoot all week long if you like. Then just before the change, pray some "noob" with a random OS doesn't hit you by accident. All bragging rights gone. Nothing to show, just as everyone else you have podded on the way. Pirates steal! Pirates don't hunt down ships that they know to be empty unless they want that ship, which by the way you can't have! Bounty says "Come get me!" Red without a bounty says nothing. If you want to PvP, go to your corners and come out fighting after a fair countdown. Players without a bounty, in my opinion, shouldn't even be listed and attacking one, not defending against an attack, should be penalized. Just a thought!

Pirates or rather said very evil pirates kill people, cus of some need, as revenge. That would say the same with ships, not kill, but destroy the ships for revenge or the urge for destruction?

 

[rubero]

(I did not bother reading all the comments because they all the same anyway)

if i remember correctly there were no problems with the first PM ever except for the fact that ppl didn't always get revenge right away. Why are ppl trying to solve something they messed up and just have to put back the old way.

what ppl usually don't think of is that pm was used for a single pvp as well when you were just having fun with friends.
it's was good the way it was enough said

 

[Ghost division Kane]

Rules about attacking other pirates in a way Red vs Red sometimes makes influence on other big things. For example when I was red, I was attacked by much stronger pirate mr. X (name irrelevant) and he was so afraid of me that he asked for extra help one officer of some other clan who was his buddy. However, that officer was not member of their alliance, so when admiral of his clan found out that Mr. X was allying himself literary with an enemy of the alliance to kill a buddy of that admiral, Mr. X was *** kicked.

So mind yourself who you attacking, and who is with you.


Watch your language in forum posts, please re-read the rules to be sure what is allowed and not.

Lead Forum Moderator
Adrana

 

[max3x]

(I did not bother reading all the comments because they all the same anyway)

if i remember correctly there were no problems with the first PM ever except for the fact that ppl didn't always get revenge right away. Why are ppl trying to solve something they messed up and just have to put back the old way.

what ppl usually don't think of is that pm was used for a single pvp as well when you were just having fun with friends.
it's was good the way it was enough said

This is just an old beta pilots thoughts.
I have come back to play, it's been over a year now.
The game is getting better but the PM mode is worthless.
I agree it should be as it was in the beta.

 

[134679hun]

I'm in pirate mode like 95% of the time, right after warscore reset u can expect to see my name on bounty board fast^^, but I don't shoot reds asap. I believe red=dead 100% and if im attacked i will fight back. I usualy only kill people pending on my mood, if i just left sirius cuz everyone had to go, and im really bored, i'll red hunt, just depends on my mood. Even enemy clans, i usualy don't kill them if there red unless i have a grudge.
But I go red, and expect to die, everyone who hits the pod me button should instantly expect and prepair to die.
Red = dead period.

 

[Ghost division Kane]

This must be very precise. What is harassment and what is normal play.
When you red, if someone come and kill you its normal game, ether you have bounty or not. Then you resurect and turn on pm again, and same guy kills you again. That could not be harassment yet, because if previous fight was long then could be some kind of a challenge for that guy to shoot you, right? Some his personal issues. But after that , you resurect again, go red (if you want to level up faster) and if same guy, in total attacking time of 5 min, kills you again (3rd time) that is harassment. And should be punishable. Because there is no reason for that 3rd kill.

 

[JacTR]

Of course, a player must not harass another. The question is whether you can get achievement points for unfair PVPs. It's a pirate game, so it should be possible to pod every other player in pirate mode. This is a personally decision, if it is not harassment.
But just in fair PVPs you should get points for achievements, because achievements should not be easy to get.

JacTR