Over powered drac OS

[Shadow-Stryker]

I really don't see what the problem is about. Most of the time now i usually spend pvping other players and i have never had an issue with fighting a full rared out draconis sniper in my full rared out r70 storm (not parsec). IF im up again a very good sniper pilot then yes somtimes i lose. but its usually becuase the sniper got some really nice crts not just by the OS, but by blasters, sniper and OS. But if u get a nice combo of crits with any ship then your llikely to lose. So i personally don't believe that the Snipers OS is too over-powering. I think some people thats don't really now how to pvp complain when they lose against another ship class and try to say theyre too over powering.

And as for people that wish they had the Sol sniper back then go back to sol and just stay their. Becuase if somehow you didn't notice the sniper was Sols RARE ship. In Dracnois its just a normal ship so u cant expect the sniper to be the same.

 

[Shadow-Stryker]

For your information...A storm can't rocket then orbit becuase as soon as you luanch your rockets you go into combact mode. Im also pretty sure that once a tank hits his aggro bomb he goes into combact mode. So as far as i know only the sniper has the ability to luanch an attack and cuase damage and then cowardly orbit to safety. So yes i believe this should be fix. It should be made that as soon as you hit your OS you go into combat mode.

 

[pbhuh]

I really don't see what the problem is about. Most of the time now i usually spend pvping other players and i have never had an issue with fighting a full rared out draconis sniper in my full rared out r70 storm (not parsec). IF im up again a very good sniper pilot then yes somtimes i lose. but its usually becuase the sniper got some really nice crts not just by the OS, but by blasters, sniper and OS. But if u get a nice combo of crits with any ship then your llikely to lose. So i personally don't believe that the Snipers OS is too over-powering. I think some people thats don't really now how to pvp complain when they lose against another ship class and try to say theyre too over powering.

And as for people that wish they had the Sol sniper back then go back to sol and just stay their. Becuase if somehow you didn't notice the sniper was Sols RARE ship. In Dracnois its just a normal ship so u cant expect the sniper to be the same.

You are right, except at the last part, it's not the 25% percent we want, it's the normal sniper 1.0 we want, also in draconis, that was a ship which was awesome, altought it was very overpowered, by the 25%, which made them so bad.

 

[ridoi]

For your information...A storm can't rocket then orbit becuase as soon as you luanch your rockets you go into combact mode. Im also pretty sure that once a tank hits his aggro bomb he goes into combact mode. So as far as i know only the sniper has the ability to luanch an attack and cuase damage and then cowardly orbit to safety. So yes i believe this should be fix. It should be made that as soon as you hit your OS you go into combat mode.

I did test it once, and it worked with all, u must orbit right when u press bomb, or right when the rocket hits...
Maybe it got removed who knows...

 

[Shadow-Stryker]

Okay correction, bad on my part, you can luanch the rockets and still remain blue but the thing is that as soon as you orbit your rockets disappear. Same as if you were to die and u just luanched a rocket it wont hit your opponent. Unless you remain on the surface and byt then you would be in combact mode.

 

[Rogue_Demon]

lol SK, u say orbiting is cowardly yet u do it urself and never give farefights

And yes launching a Rocket then Orbiting right after works, done it b4 but not with the aggrobomb or OS ^^

 

[ManicJoker]

you can rocket then orbit but your rockets dont hit your target bomb goes off and hits your target your in combat mode if you orbit while its loading up then it will not go off/should not go off same for your OS target you drop it 90% of the time it goes off instantly and your in combat mode so you should not be able to leave the surface.

there is a new thing i have seen that kind of goes along with this info i put my thermo on a pilot who i will not name that while my thermo was still going doing damage to his ship he went to orbit at thsi point i had not managed to get a blaster shot on him ans he backed away from me.

not sure if there are glitch's in the game at the minute that are giving this opportunity to pilots or if the dev's have put them in to the game (Dont think that likely) but they do need to be looked in to well in my opinion anyway.

 

[ManicJoker]

ok if the drac OS is not over powered as you all like to say then there is something wrong with how much damage it does to certain ships.

i have an example of this from just yesterday.

A drac Sniper used its OS on me and a thermograde armoured Drac sniper with out critical hitting either of us it takes 3 bar's or HP from my parsec and only 2 from the thermograde armoured Drac sniper and the Os was dropped on my head i was sat in the middle of its blast radius the thermograde drac sniper was at edge of it,
yet when its just myself under a drac Os sniper in my parsec if i pull out towards the outer edge of it with out a critical hit on me it still does 3 dars for damage to my parsec.

i still have to find out how much it can do to my SDX engi and defender.

 

[Rogue_Demon]

you can rocket then orbit but your rockets dont hit your target bomb goes off and hits your target your in combat mode if you orbit while its loading up then it will not go off/should not go off same for your OS target you drop it 90% of the time it goes off instantly and your in combat mode so you should not be able to leave the surface.

there is a new thing i have seen that kind of goes along with this info i put my thermo on a pilot who i will not name that while my thermo was still going doing damage to his ship he went to orbit at thsi point i had not managed to get a blaster shot on him ans he backed away from me.

not sure if there are glitch's in the game at the minute that are giving this opportunity to pilots or if the dev's have put them in to the game (Dont think that likely) but they do need to be looked in to well in my opinion anyway.

try it with the Aim Comp aswell, u'll see it does hit

 

[ridoi]

ok if the drac OS is not over powered as you all like to say then there is something wrong with how much damage it does to certain ships.

i have an example of this from just yesterday.

A drac Sniper used its OS on me and a thermograde armoured Drac sniper with out critical hitting either of us it takes 3 bar's or HP from my parsec and only 2 from the thermograde armoured Drac sniper and the Os was dropped on my head i was sat in the middle of its blast radius the thermograde drac sniper was at edge of it,
yet when its just myself under a drac Os sniper in my parsec if i pull out towards the outer edge of it with out a critical hit on me it still does 3 dars for damage to my parsec.

i still have to find out how much it can do to my SDX engi and defender.

manic u up to test the damages with me?

 

[ManicJoker]

you can rocket then orbit but your rockets dont hit your target bomb goes off and hits your target your in combat mode if you orbit while its loading up then it will not go off/should not go off same for your OS target you drop it 90% of the time it goes off instantly and your in combat mode so you should not be able to leave the surface.

there is a new thing i have seen that kind of goes along with this info i put my thermo on a pilot who i will not name that while my thermo was still going doing damage to his ship he went to orbit at thsi point i had not managed to get a blaster shot on him ans he backed away from me.

not sure if there are glitch's in the game at the minute that are giving this opportunity to pilots or if the dev's have put them in to the game (Dont think that likely) but they do need to be looked in to well in my opinion anyway.

try it with the Aim Comp aswell, u'll see it does hit

then they have changed it as it has allways been able to launch but not hit the target when you orbit as they stop dead and dissapear regardless if you have aim comp on or not

 

[ManicJoker]

maybe once i have finished work tonight if your around we can test if im not too tired to be red that is

 

[ridoi]

then they have changed it as it has allways been able to launch but not hit the target when you orbit as they stop dead and dissapear regardless if you have aim comp on or not

I have tested it before and it was possible, and maybe it still is, u might test it out

 

[Astraeus]

PTR is open for you to test a New OS, Repair & ThermoBlast. Please go test & put your Thoughts here. Pleas only add thoughts on the New OS, Thermo & Rep. It is suggested you test them on Prosperous.

Myself & GMs will be available also for testing purposes on PTR as well as for Comparison on "Live" Askone Server. Please test Sol & Draconis Tech

 

[ridoi]

PTR is open for you to test a New OS, Repair & ThermoBlast. Please go test & put your Thoughts here. Pleas only add thoughts on the New OS, Thermo & Rep. It is suggested you test them on Prosperous.

Myself & GMs will be available also for testing purposes on PTR as well as for Comparison on "Live" Askone Server. Please test Sol & Draconis Tech

Astraeus that was Great news

 

[Gon]

Anyone can tell what they changed with these items? I can't play on PTR now :/

@Edit: I saw your post on "Feedback" Ridoi, thanks

 

[jakestynes10]

lmao never done it myself if i attack someone i go all the way or pod trying starting a attack on someone then orbiting is just cowrdly to be honest and i think everything you said that can do it should be STOPPED

Hahaha Oh my days u make me laugh OS'ing some1 then orbiting is more cowardly then attacking lower lvl ships ???????
SK think about your own things befor u say something is cowardly
here a SS

 

[Proteus1959]

I have been watching this discussion with great interest. I do so because I have a Parsec as well as a sniper. Most often you will see the sniper because I feel it is a more capable ship than the Parsec, based on my abilities. The term abilities is a word that I haven't seen in the thread but Shadow-Stryker did hint upon it and I am glad that someone did.
My Drac sniper is fully rared, packs the best fire power booster and absorb booster that SS gold can buy. If attacked by a Parsec, I keep my fingers crossed, run, and pray a lot. I wish I had known I had a better ship then I would spend less time in a pod, lol.
Lets face it, next to the Engi, the sniper is the weakest ship on the planet! Though I do not feel that the OS or any other weapon is too strong, they should be very strong indeed. Complaints of the OS are really unfounded. Let's compare.
OS is the strongest available weapon however there is a lot of warning before it can cause any damage. You can choose to sit under it and take your chances or move and survive. Rockets with Aim computer, though less powerful are very accurate and relentless in tracking you down. They cool down faster that the OS and to the thinly skinned sniper they are devastating when combined with the thermo-blast.
When I purchased the Parsec, I feel that I made the same mistake as a number of pilots. A lot of hype about a poorly armored ship. Lets face facts. The Parsec is a poorly armored ship. Let's face reality. It is still a storm! But, the weapons compensate. The Tank, with the strongest armor available and a shield has a blaster and a bomb that in PvP most often is a one-shot deal. Like putting a pea shooter on an M-1 Abrams.
This game is about PILOT skill. You pick a ship, master it and only after you combine you skills and the ships capabilities do you become a winner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the strength of the OS or the armor on the Parsec. To decrease the power of the OS will only hurt those players who chose to purchase a sniper and prefer it over a storm, not only in PvP but normal game play as well.
Parsec pilots: "Don't go into the light!"

 

[ManicJoker]

I have been watching this discussion with great interest. I do so because I have a Parsec as well as a sniper. Most often you will see the sniper because I feel it is a more capable ship than the Parsec, based on my abilities. The term abilities is a word that I haven't seen in the thread but Shadow-Stryker did hint upon it and I am glad that someone did.
My Drac sniper is fully rared, packs the best fire power booster and absorb booster that SS gold can buy. If attacked by a Parsec, I keep my fingers crossed, run, and pray a lot. I wish I had known I had a better ship then I would spend less time in a pod, lol.
Lets face it, next to the Engi, the sniper is the weakest ship on the planet! Though I do not feel that the OS or any other weapon is too strong, they should be very strong indeed. Complaints of the OS are really unfounded. Let's compare.
OS is the strongest available weapon however there is a lot of warning before it can cause any damage. You can choose to sit under it and take your chances or move and survive. Rockets with Aim computer, though less powerful are very accurate and relentless in tracking you down. They cool down faster that the OS and to the thinly skinned sniper they are devastating when combined with the thermo-blast.
When I purchased the Parsec, I feel that I made the same mistake as a number of pilots. A lot of hype about a poorly armored ship. Lets face facts. The Parsec is a poorly armored ship. Let's face reality. It is still a storm! But, the weapons compensate. The Tank, with the strongest armor available and a shield has a blaster and a bomb that in PvP most often is a one-shot deal. Like putting a pea shooter on an M-1 Abrams.
This game is about PILOT skill. You pick a ship, master it and only after you combine you skills and the ships capabilities do you become a winner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the strength of the OS or the armor on the Parsec. To decrease the power of the OS will only hurt those players who chose to purchase a sniper and prefer it over a storm, not only in PvP but normal game play as well.
Parsec pilots: "Don't go into the light!"

when a OS takes 75% or more from a parsec when its not a Critical hit there is something wrong there, not all sniper pilots out there have been doing this but its rather hard to gain SS's when your trying to fight

the new way they have put it gives pilots in my opinion way to much time to be able to get out of its way.
the rep and thermo I did not really see much change in them though

as for the parsec poor armour it comes down to the fact that you mentions of the skill of the pilot yeah its not as good as as the hype about it but I still love mine and the little bit extra armour you get over the Drac ships is nice

 

[CapnSanta]

Errrr I dont think th eproblem is with the OS power... I use a sniper most of the time and although I don't really PvP I do know how powerful the OS is (draco one), on mantis...

IF the OS does infact damage the parsec 3/4 of health per average blast then the problem is with the parsecs ARMOUR assuming it has meth armour of course! This is simple to test..... go blast a level 67 det at Hive LZ and see how much damage it does. Then go blast a Parsec with meth armour.

I would think that a parsec with meth armour OUGHT to be MUCH stronger than a level 67 det!

SO stop whinging about "this or that " being too powerful and just play the game! If you make it weaker for pilot ships then you make it weaker for mantis... and WHO wants that??

ALSO... did the attacker with the OS that did 75% damage have a booster going?? You know... that gave more power to the blast? I mean get real... sounds like someone doesn't like getting beaten lol ^^ ^^