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RetroRage

Pirates,

as quite a lot of players complain about some of the changes, we want to give you a little insight why we did them.

- New camera control system

Why did we even implement that?

When we implemented the feature that the ship is able to stand still and hold its positon, we found out that the old control system is not compatible to that change.
Furthermore we found out, that a lot of new players did not get along with the old control system very well and left the game because of that. The system was not intuative and felt weird to play with.
Player that played MMORPGs before are often used to a control system like the one we implemented.
We also noticed during the testing phase, that the old system was causing a lot of trouble for testers.
Due to these reasons we implemented the new control system which does not have these problems.
We know that it is a big change for players that are used to the old controls but after we played the game for several days we got so used to it that we could not play with the old controls anymore.
As we got the feedback of some testers that they do not want to use the new controls, we tried to rebuild the old system while making it faster and better compared to the old version
but some things are just not possible on the new "old" steering system as that would have cost too much ressources.

Check out the new controls for yourself, maybe with one of your higherlevel ships by flying in some lower level system until you are used to it. This way you won't die trying to figure out the new controls for yourself.

After speaking with some players about the new "old" steering we noticed that what they were missing was the following way to fly:

Fly with w all the way while rotating the camera with the mouse to look around. At a certain point you want to move the ship into the direction the camera is set to. Before the update you did achieve this by releasing w and pressing it again, this does not work with the new "old" steering system. With the new "old" system instead of releasing and pressing w just press a or d.
Beside of that other things are also possible or changed if you find yourself to not be able to do it the way you are used to try it another way.

- The new Loot System

During research of what is most annoying for users, the biggest problem was the farming for blueprints and cryonite.
A lot of players complained about the system that they were grinding for a blueprint for months without finding it.
This is not possible with the new system anymore. The biggest question for all of them was:
How much longer do I have to farm until I find the blueprint and why does it not drop while my friend found it after 2 kills?
The answer to this question is, that the old system was mainly based on luck.
So if you were unlucky the blueprint won't drop for months, whereas other more lucky players got it after a few hours or even minutes.

Why is the amount of needed blueprints parts to build a rare item so high?
The drop rate of rare blueprints was increased drastically and thereforee the amount of parts had to be increased too, to keep the game balanced.

The amount of dropped blueprints(blue) is calculated in the same way as always, the drop-chance was increased while the amount of parts was increased by the same factor.
In average the effort to build the item is the same as before, but the chance that the player does not finish the blueprint after the average time is much lower.
So the amount of time you need to invest to complete a blueprint is now much closer to the average amount of time that was needed before.

- Cryonite Penalty

Many players reported, that it is very hard to farm for players in lower level planets, because higher level players used the same planets for farming and thus occupied their farming spots.
This made the game quite annoying for lower level players. Therefore we increased the cryonite dropchance on planets close to your equipment level and reduced it the more your equipment level differs from average level on that planet.
In short, it now makes more sense to farm on planets close to your equipment level then on lower level planets.
The closer your equipment level to the level of the planet, the better the dropchance of cryonite.

so what you mean to say cos a few new players didnt like the new steering system they left the game so you changed it lol so what about all the old players leaving the game now????? what about what they want?????? iv never ever heard any player ever complain about the old steering system so god only knows who you been talking too you just make this rubbish up, and as you keep telling us this game ISNT ANOTHER MMO AND YOU DONT COPY OTHER MMOS so why now are you so worried about your steering system being like other mmos STOP LOOKING AFTER THE NEW MONEY FOR GOD SAKE and think of the players that have fed your famliys for the last 2 years, what made this game great is it wasnt like other games now your tring to make it like others and its failing badly why why why dont you listen to 80% of the players on the game, AND CAN ANY GM OR STAFF MEMBER TELL ME WHERE MY POST HAS GONE TITLED "WHAT IS SPLITSCREEN GOIN TO DO NOW" as it seems its been deleted but iv been given no reason as to why, please please please give this game to a development team and company that knows what they are doing, in fact im goin to go to the lower systems and pod every noob i see red in a hope it annoys them to the point of leaving the game as they seem to have wrecked the game for me so i will do the same for them and this is not breaking any TOS in the game as they have a choice not to use pirate mode so if they are red they are dead simple and if any of you gm or devs think you can stop me (without your god mode on) come try me
 
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well said RetroRage. same as you i've never heard someone complain about old steering system and this new truly sucks. just because some minority of players did have some "difficulties" steering the old way (read this as: "THEY SUCK AT PLAYING PG") doesnt mean this new (rubbish) type of steering will make em good players.

now a bit ranting on my own about drop rate and some ship movement:

I've done a bit of testing of bp drops and i must say it's worse than before.

1 hour of shooting gazica LZ signors would easily give me "complete" zero point bp (perforator or OS) before this update and now in 1 hour of shooting i got 6 zero point orbital strikes and 7 zero point perforators. 13 of the same kind are needed to complete a bp of this level so i couldnt complete a full bp in 1hr. this is of course done without bp booster. SS claims normal bps will now take "about the same time" (in average) as before to find them, I got a proof that they were wrong.

I also spent 3 hours shooting signors on the hive in the maze and they didnt drop even a single rare bp piece. on old loot system a rare would drop for me in the maze in average of 8 hours +/-2hrs of shooting - and i got 3 draconis rare perforators during 3 days with this 8hour shooting interval in the maze before this update. again, SS claims rares will take (in average) "a bit more" - i say it will take forever without boosters. and on the personal note: RARES WERE NOT a matter of luck. sol rare took about 2hrs +/- 20min to get so spare us those stories about luck. LUCK doesn not exist ok? i dont use boosters and i have all sol rares except sol rep field and sol ressurect, so rares were not a big deal to get - you'd get them before this "downgrade" thru HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT TO PG.

thing is that this game has become INFESTED with SPOILED BRATS who want all the cookies without having their hands burned a little. if they wanted draco rare then they should have tried shooting from 20.30PM till 5AM next day without stopping and IT WOULD DROP just as it DID drop for me!

the goal is obvious - make people buy more bp boosters. i say it's ok to give "an edge" to those who pay but SS should realize that by making game so unbalanced for those who dont buy benefits, this game will slowly lose those players to other games that are available. personally, i'll wait to see how the things will develop in this month - if things remain the same i'll be leaving because this game has become too much time consuming. it may be "free to play" but it surely ain FUN TO PLAY anymore.

regarding ship movement: not only this new steering is bad, but also the fact that ship always makes 180 degree turn and facing mantis when you fire at it. this is so annoying - it makes gaming so bloody frustrating and it's "hazardous" for your ship to turn back and stop to fire at 4 rank 70 signors who are blasting OSs as you move away from them (you would shoot as you fly away from them not towards them ok?)

so to put a long story shot - THESE ARE FACTS about new PG downgrade:

* you dont get BPS faster (normal bps or rare - no matter which)
* new steering isnt good - majority of players think it sucks and just because some new players asked to change things SS didnt need to mess the game for all of us. hell most of those new players will quit the game on first signs that things will get tough (project detonation/testing aggro/operation weakpoint missions)

I support to full your idea RetroRage: let's all assemble in lower systems and make hell for those newcomers who are responsible for SS ruining the game for us. LETS KILL EM ALL! :devilish:

CHOICE IS YOURS PEOPLE: EITHER WE STICK TOGETHER OR WE WILL FALL APART! SS will keep changing the game all the time if all of us dont rebel now and take A STAND!
 

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bah m8 just stop playing like me. Its a big waste of time to post here... we were unhappy about the 20 bps needed at the beginning, then they lowered them to 7-15 and now they increased them to 30. This game is already lost, and i wont spend my free time anymore here. Personally i also think the non compatibility feature is just a big lie, but anyways its my opinion....
 

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the game got boring for me today, don't know why :/, i hope it get's better tomorrow 0.o
 

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"- Cryonite Penalty

Many players reported, that it is very hard to farm for players in lower level planets, because higher level players used the same planets for farming and thus occupied their farming spots.
This made the game quite annoying for lower level players. Therefore we increased the cryonite dropchance on planets close to your equipment level and reduced it the more your equipment level differs from average level on that planet.
In short, it now makes more sense to farm on planets close to your equipment level then on lower level planets.
The closer your equipment level to the level of the planet, the better the dropchance of cryonite."

What a load of BS...

Heres a Simple solution for the farming crisis: OPEN up a planet in sol and drop nothing but Harvs theres. Then everyone will be a happy camper.

All this is but a VERY POOR attempt at trying to make everyone grind longer for SS LACK OF CONTENT.
 

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Well, after testing the new updates, here is my feedback:

The new steering system:
It aint that bad, I know its a little annoying but it took me only 20 mins to get used to it.The only thing I dont like is the fact that u cant use ur camera to look around as the ship turns on that way.

The new loot system:
I have seen many ppl complaining about this but for me it is better.Instead of shooting mantis for hours and not seeing a single bp, now bps drop more often,u need to get more of them though. How does this effect a player? Well if someone shoots non stop and not a single bp drops, the player will be discouraged and will most likely give up. With this new loot systems u have to find more bps, but at least they will drop more frequently and will encourage u to keep working.I was expecting the required amount of gold less though.

The only thing I was disappointed was the increase of e.I mean 20%? Thats almost useless, I was expecting more like 2 times more or even 150%.

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Dark Lord
 

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Sinned said:
Well, after testing the new updates, here is my feedback:

The new steering system:
It aint that bad, I know its a little annoying but it took me only 20 mins to get used to it.The only thing I dont like is the fact that u cant use ur camera to look around as the ship turns on that way.

The new loot system:
I have seen many ppl complaining about this but for me it is better.Instead of shooting mantis for hours and not seeing a single bp, now bps drop more often,u need to get more of them though. How does this effect a player? Well if someone shoots non stop and not a single bp drops, the player will be discouraged and will most likely give up. With this new loot systems u have to find more bps, but at least they will drop more frequently and will encourage u to keep working.I was expecting the required amount of gold less though.

The only thing I was disappointed was the increase of e.I mean 20%? Thats almost useless, I was expecting more like 2 times more or even 150%.

Regards
Dark Lord

How much did split screen pay you to say that?
 

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Well ,nothing.

Thats just my point of view as a free solo player and if u would know me, u would know how much I complained about things that werent right.

Im not stupid enough to support something that is wrong.

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Dark Lord
 

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Sinned said:
Well, after testing the new updates, here is my feedback:

The new steering system:
It aint that bad, I know its a little annoying but it took me only 20 mins to get used to it.The only thing I dont like is the fact that u cant use ur camera to look around as the ship turns on that way.

The new loot system:
I have seen many ppl complaining about this but for me it is better.Instead of shooting mantis for hours and not seeing a single bp, now bps drop more often,u need to get more of them though. How does this effect a player? Well if someone shoots non stop and not a single bp drops, the player will be discouraged and will most likely give up. With this new loot systems u have to find more bps, but at least they will drop more frequently and will encourage u to keep working.I was expecting the required amount of gold less though.

The only thing I was disappointed was the increase of e.I mean 20%? Thats almost useless, I was expecting more like 2 times more or even 150%.

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Dark Lord
Not really. Now a player gets discouraged BEFORE starting to look for a bp. Come on, before it made a sense to look for a rare, because it could drop. Now for example to get the rare ship you need to find 29 gold bps, which isnt even worth to give a try .
 

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HyDroxYl said:
Sinned said:
Well, after testing the new updates, here is my feedback:

The new steering system:
It aint that bad, I know its a little annoying but it took me only 20 mins to get used to it.The only thing I dont like is the fact that u cant use ur camera to look around as the ship turns on that way.

The new loot system:
I have seen many ppl complaining about this but for me it is better.Instead of shooting mantis for hours and not seeing a single bp, now bps drop more often,u need to get more of them though. How does this effect a player? Well if someone shoots non stop and not a single bp drops, the player will be discouraged and will most likely give up. With this new loot systems u have to find more bps, but at least they will drop more frequently and will encourage u to keep working.I was expecting the required amount of gold less though.

The only thing I was disappointed was the increase of e.I mean 20%? Thats almost useless, I was expecting more like 2 times more or even 150%.

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Dark Lord
Not really. Now a player gets discouraged BEFORE starting to look for a bp. Come on, before it made a sense to look for a rare, because it could drop. Now for example to get the rare ship you need to find 29 gold bps, which isnt even worth to give a try .
Yeah I have to agree with u on rares, more than 10 bps for a rare is too much. But normal bps are fine. I wouldnt like to look for hours for a single bp, only to get it stolen after it drops.That would discourage me completely and I would give up. Now, even if one bp gets stolen, another will drop soon.

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Dark Lord
 
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