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no you CANT buy the skins anymore full stop, it was a one off promotion offer look in the gold shop and tell me where you can buy the membership skins?. how can you complain that instead of paying 100 euros a month for energy now it only cost 20 euros, *** **** guys splitscreen go to make cash some way, you all just being far too selfish and greedy now, simple rule is if you dont like the new membership DONT BUY IT i for one love the new membership
 

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TwistedMetal said:
how can you complain that instead of paying 100 euros a month for energy now it only cost 20 euros.
When you never used to spend either and used to only spend £5 a month and got 2x energy with an auto e-generator and a skin and a buddy cap and a membership cap and now to do the same you have to spend a whole lot more.

I cannot afford full membership so 100% e usage is no use to me anymore than 8x energy used to be. The lower membership is now a complete rip off and I will never buy it. I was hoping the new membership levels would improve my game instead they have made it a lot worse as I have to collect more now than I used to due to the loss of the e-generator.

I still use the same amout of e either way and get nothing really for my money.
 
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I dont mind the increase as it only reduces how much extra advantage fat money boys can afford to buy and use, its a good move for the Free-to-Play guy, anyways stop complaining, you got unlimitated e which means you can rez youself to hell and back now.
 

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I like the new memberships but unlimited E? am 10000000000000000000000000000000000% against it, maybe its 80% or 90% but 100% NO! It just turns PG into DO.. if you pay you just can have BEST advantage ever!

Yea, someone started game and bought unlimited Energy, and then he sees someone refilling, and ask him: What are you doing?? and the other one replies : Refilling Energy..." Hehe.. refilling energy.. i'll go do my missions now without refilling and save 1/30 ( If you're a sol player, you know it, .. I refill over 10-11 times a day.. and takes all together TIME and TIME ) And the other guy just going and doing everything without using anything, like ammunition or anything, DO is even better than PG now, at least if you bought Gold ammo in DO they run out, unlike now in PG: UNLIMITED ENERGY therefore UNLIMITED SHOOTING...

And yea all people that got money now sq in molikar and dominate it ( you know who I'm talking about -.- ) they take all spots and get Cry boosters and stay there all day without leaving just because they have unlimited Energy, and sometimes I ask them: How much do you make cry a day? And they say: Oh nothing, if we played like 5 hours we can make like... 300-400 k cry? Or more.. This is just insane

I'm not against Cry boosters and it was just ok when they didn't have unlimited E.. but now it's just messed up..

And don't make me start with CQs, yea.. I go shoot everything on my sight, dang I ran out of E, guys regroup and refill E

Opposite Clan: Whom without unlimited E go refill, and those who don't (and they are A LOT) let's just attack and keep shooting, they don't have Energy to shoot us anyway..

I hate the new memberships, and not to mention a clan leader now spends I think 5$ more to get the required membership, and it was costing him 5$ less before the stupid new abusive memberships..
 
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I like the new memberships but unlimited E? am 10000000000000000000000000000000000% against it, maybe its 80% or 90% but 100% NO! It just turns PG into DO.. if you pay you just can have BEST advantage ever!

Yea, someone started game and bought unlimited Energy, and then he sees someone refilling, and ask him: What are you doing?? and the other one replies : Refilling Energy..." Hehe.. refilling energy.. i'll go do my missions now without refilling and save 1/30 ( If you're a sol player, you know it, .. I refill over 10-11 times a day.. and takes all together TIME and TIME ) And the other guy just going and doing everything without using anything, like ammunition or anything, DO is even better than PG now, at least if you bought Gold ammo in DO they run out, unlike now in PG: UNLIMITED ENERGY therefore UNLIMITED SHOOTING...

And yea all people that got money now sq in molikar and dominate it ( you know who I'm talking about -.- ) they take all spots and get Cry boosters and stay there all day without leaving just because they have unlimited Energy, and sometimes I ask them: How much do you make cry a day? And they say: Oh nothing, if we played like 5 hours we can make like... 300-400 k cry? Or more.. This is just insane

I'm not against Cry boosters and it was just ok when they didn't have unlimited E.. but now it's just messed up..

And don't make me start with CQs, yea.. I go shoot everything on my sight, dang I ran out of E, guys regroup and refill E

Opposite Clan: Whom without unlimited E go refill, and those who don't (and they are A LOT) let's just attack and keep shooting, they don't have Energy to shoot us anyway..

I hate the new memberships, and not to mention a clan leader now spends I think 5$ more to get the required membership, and it was costing him 5$ less before the stupid new abusive memberships..
funny thing is, if you had the money you would think its the best idea ever...

The only problem with this is the cqs... which should be infinite e for every1 anyay.

otherwise it is much better than the other membership.

If people are grinding, go somewhere else... There are plently of places you can go to grind without a membership... I have made a lot of cry in my STUN with NO membership. You need patience.

If your paying £120ish a year, ofc you need a good advantage, thats a lot of money to spend on a... Here it comes... FREE TO PLAY

So if you prefer DO or other games, what is stopping you playing them? Bye-bye!

besides... it takes me 3-4 mins to refuel. Not a problem at all...

If it werent for the people who are paying for this "unfairness" (not) then you wouldnt have a game. At all. So if you want to moan and groan about money, go and get some yourself, or start up a gaming company so you can see just how hard it is not to upset players with every single one of your updates.
 

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I do not like the new memberships.

The enhanced membership is not worth the price anymore.For the same price, all you get is 2x more energy, nothing else.The only good thing you get is 2x e for the same time refilling.

The elite membership is somehow good but I would not buy it.

The ultimate membership on the other hand is too good for the price it has.For the same price, you will not have to collect a single e orb in 30 days.I think its unbalanced.It would be better if it was 85% or 90% of e but 100% is a bit extreme.

What i like in this game is balance.No other game I have played has such balance between paying players and free players.There is something in new memberships I dont like.PG is all about energy.Some may say ''No, its all about cryonite''.No its not true, if u have 0 cry u can still play, the only problem is that you cant upgrade your ship or buy new ships.But if someone has 0 e, there is nothing he can do, just sit there and watch.

With the new memberships, seems that the players do not have this problem anymore.For a certain amount of gold (which is too small for my opinion) they can have unlimited e.I dont like this, its like having unlimited ammo.

I really hope it wasnt bigpoint who gave you this idea.

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Dark Lord
 

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lance said:
ElectroM said:
I like the new memberships but unlimited E? am 10000000000000000000000000000000000% against it, maybe its 80% or 90% but 100% NO! It just turns PG into DO.. if you pay you just can have BEST advantage ever!

Yea, someone started game and bought unlimited Energy, and then he sees someone refilling, and ask him: What are you doing?? and the other one replies : Refilling Energy..." Hehe.. refilling energy.. i'll go do my missions now without refilling and save 1/30 ( If you're a sol player, you know it, .. I refill over 10-11 times a day.. and takes all together TIME and TIME ) And the other guy just going and doing everything without using anything, like ammunition or anything, DO is even better than PG now, at least if you bought Gold ammo in DO they run out, unlike now in PG: UNLIMITED ENERGY therefore UNLIMITED SHOOTING...

And yea all people that got money now sq in molikar and dominate it ( you know who I'm talking about -.- ) they take all spots and get Cry boosters and stay there all day without leaving just because they have unlimited Energy, and sometimes I ask them: How much do you make cry a day? And they say: Oh nothing, if we played like 5 hours we can make like... 300-400 k cry? Or more.. This is just insane

I'm not against Cry boosters and it was just ok when they didn't have unlimited E.. but now it's just messed up..

And don't make me start with CQs, yea.. I go shoot everything on my sight, dang I ran out of E, guys regroup and refill E

Opposite Clan: Whom without unlimited E go refill, and those who don't (and they are A LOT) let's just attack and keep shooting, they don't have Energy to shoot us anyway..

I hate the new memberships, and not to mention a clan leader now spends I think 5$ more to get the required membership, and it was costing him 5$ less before the stupid new abusive memberships..
funny thing is, if you had the money you would think its the best idea ever...

The only problem with this is the cqs... which should be infinite e for every1 anyay.

otherwise it is much better than the other membership.

If people are grinding, go somewhere else... There are plently of places you can go to grind without a membership... I have made a lot of cry in my STUN with NO membership. You need patience.

If your paying £120ish a year, ofc you need a good advantage, thats a lot of money to spend on a... Here it comes... FREE TO PLAY

So if you prefer DO or other games, what is stopping you playing them? Bye-bye!

besides... it takes me 3-4 mins to refuel. Not a problem at all...

If it werent for the people who are paying for this "unfairness" (not) then you wouldnt have a game. At all. So if you want to moan and groan about money, go and get some yourself, or start up a gaming company so you can see just how hard it is not to upset players with every single one of your updates.
I think the game will run just fine without the new memberships.. it ran just good and BALANCED before the NEW Memberships.. !! First point

It is an unfairness because it's being abused by people to have advantages in the hole game. Second point..

Who said I prefer DO or other games, blindo.. I said this game is "turning" into DO, which is BAD.. that means I don't prefer DO ... You should go to school dude.. third point

This is a game.. 3/4 of players are not adults and yea you can tell me that doesn't stop some of paying but that isn't but another 1/4, that means 2/4 or 1/2 of the players cannot buy the new memberships.. And no I don't want to start my OWN company.. and if you're trying to make it look like fair memberships, don't. You're doing BAD at it.. 4th point

People are grinding, go somewhere else.. ehhem.. GO somewhere else? The hole grinding spots are always full when I play even on mars, and on molikar, on the second hand, I always get a certain spot first, and people with unlimited energy come and stay there shooting everything because they can stay there for.. EVER.. giving one no time in the spot to make also cry.. 5th point..

If I had money I wouldn't even THINK of spending in on a GAME.. Unless it's something too good like these unlimited Memberships, but that doesn't mean, 6th point, that will change how I think about them: Completely ABUSIVE UNFAIR memberships..
 

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He's rank 64 lol, have you seen him in game? Although i dont know what that sig is there for.
 
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lol where is the un fair advantage???? i pay for the game you dont thats unfair. getting unlimited e is no advanged at all except you got to collect yours and i pay for mine. The simple fact is your crying about this is you have no cash or means to buy the membership with, if you could buy it you would be singing splitscreens praises, now stop spitting your dummy out cos you want all the paid stuff for free. I PAY you DONT why should i not have a slight advantage if the membership didnt have any advanrage to it no one would buy it then splitscreen wouldnt make any cash and the game would be gone. i believe it was you electroM that was crying cos we had to pay for the new booster and that you wanted the booster for free lol, you live in an unreal world if you want the best you got to pay for it thats why iv got a vw golf and not a ferrari. this game is no where near like DO not in the slightest way, as you said even if you did have cash you wouldnt spend it on this game so what you crying about, it should be me thats crying cos im supporting you to play the game
 

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I don't WANT them for FREE and I am not crying about it.. -.- I DONT EVEN WANT THEM.. FREE OR NOT.. NOO NADA... LA2.. NON.. 4 languages .. !! NOOOOOOOO

Game would be gone? yea right.. like it was gone BEFORE the new memberships? I think SS was good with the Old GOOD - BALANCED memberships..!!
 
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so why is it not balanced now???? cos you the free player has to collect e while me the player that pays for you to play for free doesnt have to collect e ??? thats not un balanced thats giving the paying customer value for money, and how do you know the older memberships was value for money cos you never paid for 1, iv paid for this game for over a year and a half so i know whats value for money and this is the first time iv been happy with the membership. stop crying over something you have never paid for and never will your just bitter cos you want it and cant have it
 

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You're blind.. I don't want it.. I been playing a lot this game and I didn't even think i would EVER NEED unlimited E

And I KNOW THE OLDER MEMBERHIPS because 1 time in my PG time I paid for 1 membership and it was veryyy good and was long time ago, and it was worth the money..

So I suggest getting a Glasses so you can read well :D Because it's now the 5th time I say I DONT EVEN WANT THEM.. to think OF HAVING THEM...
 

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TwistedMetal let me explain it this way.

Paying money in a game is supposed to save you time.Now this new membership not only saves you time but you never waste time anymore because refilling is really a waste of time.This is what makes it unfair.

Now lets take ''DO'' for example.2 years ago it was a game where if u bought some ''U'', it would save you alot of time.Now its a game where you cant live without buying ''U''.

PG would be a completely different game if you could buy cryonite directly.Thanks god you cant.
But with this new membership, its just like buying cry, but a little better because you have to work for it.

There is a simple solution.Make it like 85 or 90% of your e.It would be acceptable and at least u would have to refill when the time comes.

I have been thinking a lot while writing this.
Im a free player.Thats not because I dont have money or cant pay because of my age, thats because that is how I wanted to play.Many players have said to me''Im a paying player, I pay for you to so you should be thankfull to me''.Somehow you are saying the same thing.But I cant be thankful to ppl just because they pay.Im thankful to SS because they created this game and allow me to play for free.SS should be thankfull to those who play, because they give them money.Thats how it works.I just found a free game in internet and im playing it.No one is paying for me.Those who are paying, are paying for SS and not for me.
Ah if it was a P2P game, and someone paid for me too, I would be very thankful to him and would support him/her.

About the memberships

Eletrom has some good points.As any other player, I have to grind.I dont have any membership and I run out of e every 5 min.I find a free spot and after 5 mins, I run out of e.When I come back full, I find someone claiming that he has been here before.Ok ill wait until he runs out of e. What ?! He has ultimate membership!!!He will never run out of e in next 30 days or more.

The funniest thing is that it costs the same.If the same ppl are going to buy it, SS will win nothing.Just the players who win a lot more.For those who dont know TIME is better than MONEY.So you better save time than save money.Why, because you cant get back the lost time, but you can make money everyday.

And another thing, games are supposed to be different from real life.Here everything is about fun and not all about money.If a game is all about money, its a dead game, like ''DO''.

Sorry for going too long.

Regards
Dark Lord

 
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omg are you kidding if you want the best PAY FOR IT its that simple , and im sorry but splitscreen dont pay there bills and staff with fun lol get real and stop crying that you got to collect your e god you make me laugh, i see its only the people that play for free crying, try putting your hands in your pockets and support the game otherwise carry on playing for free and shut it
 

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Sorry but you can't fund a company with time alone. Many people have bought the memberships as it is good value for money.

DO is far from a dead game. It makes many thousands of Euros a day.
 

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First I want to make it clear that I do not care about the new memberships.I am not complaining or any other thing.The new memberships are not changing my gaming style (except grinding lol, im really having problems).This is just my opinion about them.

Delloda said:
Sorry but you can't fund a company with time alone. Many people have bought the memberships as it is good value for money.

DO is far from a dead game. It makes many thousands of Euros a day.
Well delloda, they are not going to remember SS for the money they have made, but for the game they have created.Now I understand that as a company, u have to make money.But find a better way.Lets take BP for example.They make lots of money, their games are played alot, but are they good? The mistake BP has done is focusing too much in paying players, leaving the rest.

An unlimited e membership is the WRONG way to make money.There are many other ways, which are acceptable and not only the paying players will benefit from them.For example, it would be very cool if u could buy an e cap booster.2x,3x,4x,5x etc bigger e cap for 30 days.Im sure ppl would buy it.Or bring back the option to buy ships with gold.The normal ones of course, not rare/parsec/TR ships..Lets face it , ultimate membership is way better than the best old membership, but u pay the same price.Increase the ultimate memberships price or decrease the amount of e it saves.

I consider ''DO'' a dead game.Why? Because in its login page it says with capital letters FREE TO PLAY.
Anyone who has played the game, should have realized that it is NOT a F2P but a P2P.So they are LYING.
Who cares if they make a lot of money.They lie about their games.They keep updating ''DO'' with super expensive things.There is no free player who can keep up with it.

Ok u know what, forget everything I have said.But please, please, for gods sake, dont make PG same as ''DO''.Ultimate membership is a bit unfair but still not unacceptable.Just, please, find better ways to make money next time.

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ElectroM said:
lance said:
ElectroM said:
I like the new memberships but unlimited E? am 10000000000000000000000000000000000% against it, maybe its 80% or 90% but 100% NO! It just turns PG into DO.. if you pay you just can have BEST advantage ever!

Yea, someone started game and bought unlimited Energy, and then he sees someone refilling, and ask him: What are you doing?? and the other one replies : Refilling Energy..." Hehe.. refilling energy.. i'll go do my missions now without refilling and save 1/30 ( If you're a sol player, you know it, .. I refill over 10-11 times a day.. and takes all together TIME and TIME ) And the other guy just going and doing everything without using anything, like ammunition or anything, DO is even better than PG now, at least if you bought Gold ammo in DO they run out, unlike now in PG: UNLIMITED ENERGY therefore UNLIMITED SHOOTING...

And yea all people that got money now sq in molikar and dominate it ( you know who I'm talking about -.- ) they take all spots and get Cry boosters and stay there all day without leaving just because they have unlimited Energy, and sometimes I ask them: How much do you make cry a day? And they say: Oh nothing, if we played like 5 hours we can make like... 300-400 k cry? Or more.. This is just insane

I'm not against Cry boosters and it was just ok when they didn't have unlimited E.. but now it's just messed up..

And don't make me start with CQs, yea.. I go shoot everything on my sight, dang I ran out of E, guys regroup and refill E

Opposite Clan: Whom without unlimited E go refill, and those who don't (and they are A LOT) let's just attack and keep shooting, they don't have Energy to shoot us anyway..

I hate the new memberships, and not to mention a clan leader now spends I think 5$ more to get the required membership, and it was costing him 5$ less before the stupid new abusive memberships..
funny thing is, if you had the money you would think its the best idea ever...

The only problem with this is the cqs... which should be infinite e for every1 anyay.

otherwise it is much better than the other membership.

If people are grinding, go somewhere else... There are plently of places you can go to grind without a membership... I have made a lot of cry in my STUN with NO membership. You need patience.

If your paying £120ish a year, ofc you need a good advantage, thats a lot of money to spend on a... Here it comes... FREE TO PLAY

So if you prefer DO or other games, what is stopping you playing them? Bye-bye!

besides... it takes me 3-4 mins to refuel. Not a problem at all...

If it werent for the people who are paying for this "unfairness" (not) then you wouldnt have a game. At all. So if you want to moan and groan about money, go and get some yourself, or start up a gaming company so you can see just how hard it is not to upset players with every single one of your updates.
I think the game will run just fine without the new memberships.. it ran just good and BALANCED before the NEW Memberships.. !! First point

It is an unfairness because it's being abused by people to have advantages in the hole game. Second point..

Who said I prefer DO or other games, blindo.. I said this game is "turning" into DO, which is BAD.. that means I don't prefer DO ... You should go to school dude.. third point

This is a game.. 3/4 of players are not adults and yea you can tell me that doesn't stop some of paying but that isn't but another 1/4, that means 2/4 or 1/2 of the players cannot buy the new memberships.. And no I don't want to start my OWN company.. and if you're trying to make it look like fair memberships, don't. You're doing BAD at it.. 4th point

People are grinding, go somewhere else.. ehhem.. GO somewhere else? The hole grinding spots are always full when I play even on mars, and on molikar, on the second hand, I always get a certain spot first, and people with unlimited energy come and stay there shooting everything because they can stay there for.. EVER.. giving one no time in the spot to make also cry.. 5th point..

If I had money I wouldn't even THINK of spending in on a GAME.. Unless it's something too good like these unlimited Memberships, but that doesn't mean, 6th point, that will change how I think about them: Completely ABUSIVE UNFAIR memberships..
as much as i hate gigantic quote walls, I am afraid i must disect this stupidity in detail.

point 1. If PG was running fine and making loads of money, it would be offering sales more and not updating the memberships to make them more tempting to people with money. end of. The very fact that it has to do that seems to me like it isnt making as much money as would be satisfactory.

point 2. You never said you prefered DO. You didnt. Are you sure?
DO is even better than PG now
:sneaky: and i am the one who needs to go to school. What a great attempt at making me look small there, I really appreciate it.

point 3. I enjoyed the figures that you seemed to have pulled out of thin air. They made me laugh... I think you would be surprised at the amount of older players who play this. Besides... You do not seem to be able to grasp this simple concept. It doesnt matter who pays what... As long as SS studios' income increases due to an update which does not effect the gameplay (ill come onto this in a bit) to a significant degree, it is a good update.

point 4. If i can find a way to make cryonite in my stun with no membership, so can you. You just need to accept that you cannot always have a grinding spot to yourself, you seem to be too impatient with the game... Perhaps its all the rage you appear to have.

point 5. I merely suggested the "start your own company" as a sarcastic remark. You obviously know nothing ( i admit my own knowledge is very limited so i probably should not be the one to say this) about how these companies work. Just because this game has a fair few players on it does not mean the game is making 1000's of £ a day. Besides, a lot of the players who put money into this game are the ones who are serious players (the ones who are high levels or soon to be high levels) so the market is actually pretty limited.

point 6. Like you say, most of the people who play this game are younger, meaning that SS cannot profit off a large percentage of their players, although not as many as you seem to think. This means that those willing to pay must get worthwhile memberships if they are going to be a stable source of income.

point 7. A game is not necessarily balanced to be sucessful. Lets take the massively sucessful Mw2. The ump45 on that is rediculously overpowered compared to the rest of the guns. This is an imbalance in the game. Does this make it unsucessful? no. If you want more examples then i can give you pages of them, that was just the first 1 that came to mind...

point 8. The new memberships have not really inbalanced the game significantly. Just because they have infinite e, doesnt mean i cant pod them 1v1. Just because they have infinite e, doesnt mean that they suddenly occupy more space and take over all the grinding spots in the game. Just because they have infinite e, doesnt mean they are more skilled players.

point 9. It is an advantage, I agree, but would you pay for nothing? no! so there has to be an advantage for the paying players. The other memberships sucked because it took a good hour or so to fill. Thats not an advantage. You dont pay for something that benefits you in one way then is a massive hinderance in another way.

and finally, point 10. I will now tell you why you should be the one at school.

Completely ABUSIVE UNFAIR memberships
If you have been violated by coding then you need a doctor.

giving one no time in the spot to make also cry
return of the grammarfag! "make also" = fail.

Who said I prefer DO or other games, blindo.. I said this game is "turning" into DO, which is BAD.. that means I don't prefer DO
and your first post?
DO is even better than PG now
and thats not even quoting the amount of typo's in that. Which i dont do unless deliberate because they can easily be made whilst typing quickly.

Sinned, that is a good way of putting it, only thing i can say is i disagree... I think the new membership is fair enough for what you pay for it...

Its 5 times the proce of xbl for Quirks sake.

thankyou for not being a blundering idiot though, these posts are time consuming :LOL:
 
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ElectroM said:
You're blind.. I don't want it.. I been playing a lot this game and I didn't even think i would EVER NEED unlimited E

And I KNOW THE OLDER MEMBERHIPS because 1 time in my PG time I paid for 1 membership and it was veryyy good and was long time ago, and it was worth the money..

So I suggest getting a Glasses so you can read well :D Because it's now the 5th time I say I DONT EVEN WANT THEM.. to think OF HAVING THEM...
lol if you dont want them(cant afford them) then why you crying like a little girl for? just shut up and play the game there is no unfair advantage lol i used to buy e anyway and always had between 1 and 2 million e so it was as good as unlimited so now your saying they shouldnt sell e as well???? just to please you. your a little kid with no grasp of the way the world works and if you dont like the new membership then leave the game and go find another to play and cry about cos i think you will find just about all other mmos are alot worse then pirate galaxy for cash ruleing the game
 
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