For Astraeus...

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

Would you please Clarify something.... it is said you prohibit people stalking people in red and waiting for them in LZ to pod them...So is LZ fightin prohibited or not.... Please Clarify as I have heard it is and heard that it isnt.

 

[ichor]

there is no rule in coc that sais you cannot stay on the landing zone red. when confronted by a gm that sais this, simply say "No"

they cant do a thing trust me ive done it before all the gm kept asking was for us to move off the lz, so yeah i dont see the point in it if your red expect to be jumped, ganged up on etc \

but as far as no red on lz, i will not follow a rule unless it is in the coc

 

[Astraeus]

No. There is no current written rule for hanging out in the LZ of a planet waiting & podding people as they land other than Rule 2 section a & b of the CoC (see Below):

2. You must not harass (a), discriminate, threaten (c) or otherwise “grief” (b) players in anyway.

(a) harass: Covers a wide range of offensive behavior. It is commonly understood as behavior intended to disturb or upset, and it is characteristically repetitive. In the legal sense, it is intentional behavior which is found threatening or disturbing

(b) “Grief”: Griefing is the act of chronically causing grief to other members of an online community, or more specifically, intentionally disrupting the immersion of another player in their game play

Podding Pilots landing in the LZ is an unfair practice in that it does not allow the Pilots to get settled on the Planet or get ready for any PvP action. Also a Pilot may be Red while landing to do Missions.

Therefore if you feel you need to violate the above Rule Governing Fair Play to all Pilots, Then a GM will inform you to move off the LZ for your PvP. As with any CoC Rule, If you decide to disregard the request to move, or decide to argue with a GM, Keep in mind it is your decision to violate the CoC & you may face punishment per the CoC

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

Well I havnt shot anyone in the LZ for awhile. Reason I am asking is it is said that You (Astraeus ) told SOB and RFA that podding people in the LZ is prohibited. So WOW took that stand as wel... We dont fight in the LZ any longer.... but... Drifter88... Norcali...and Shadow stryker have been podding people as they land in the LZ. As a matter of fact one of our player who has returrned to play is in a lower ship with lower tech on Gaz and Norcali and Drifter88 shot on him as he landed.

We informed them of what you said and they laughed and said you cant control where and who they kill.

So Just wanted to know... Thanks...

 

[ichor]

no offence astreus but i belive greifing and harassing is up to interpretation. i know when i land i fully expect to see a red parsec sitting down there. but heres an idea, 5 second grace period for landing? hell even make it so that its an official rule. until then i honestly wont consider this a rule, ill consider this the result of certain people whining because they bully people and dont expect to get a taste of their own medicine in return . ill even refuse to send in screenshots

so yeah
either make a grace period

or make it an official coc rule

until then i will go as i please, even though i dont sit at lzs

 

[Gorgon706]

really i am standing with ichor here astraeus its stupid take it out if u are red on the lz its the pilots choice to go red so please Dont complain you get podded come back and fight again or go away its getting to the point today i was in an arguement last night with a player and all i got told for everythink i said was nice SS its pathetic this needs to be changed as its stupid i aswell as many other pilots its not just im on lz red u cant attack me i admit for greif and those rules if a player is doing there best to make the game unplayable while that player is there cause they keep podding you or killing the mantis around you to stop you from lvling or even gaining cryo

2nd point why make the defender ... seems stupid now that players arnt allowed to pod people on story missions and much more i know to gain the biggest advantage in pvp is jumping some1 players complain big woop its just because as a pilot once you turn pirate mode on you are in danger of being podded by a bigger ship or a decent pilot does pods them like same system ships so draco vs draco but now with kenyte bps and sirius bps im not saying there a drag but now its like 2-3 sniper blasters 2 blasters ur dead in my meth sniper its only got oolyte repair oolyte os dolomyte attack charge and oolyte droid it makes a big differance in pvp and rest is draco bps so please SS change the game to keep it fun oh and before i forget ...

Change the bp system to where it was so if i put a bp tracker on what ever i drop who ever shoots it can see it !!!!! as i do like to put bp trackers on to assist my fellow clan members and alliance members not for me to go on a bp hunt with them and for them to see out of 50 bps 10 if not less

also talk with us players ichor has many ideas on which would inprove the game if not make it alot better!
as has many other pilots come on the servers just for a few hours and talk with the players in ur SS accounts just so we have abit of a communication as i feel we surgest our ideas and they just get filterd into good and bad and maybe out of 100 ideas 0-2 might be chosen and it might not even be the original idea

SS help us Help you and make the gaming community a much better place and help Pirate Galaxy last for many years to come

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

Igor..You say to allow a 5 seconds, and thats fine but... most players dont wait 5 seconds to shoot you when your landing. As soon as a red pilot lands... they have locked on them as soon as they are seen coming down on... and fired on and podded.

See when you land you can actually watch yourself get podded because the screen has not loaded fully and cant do anything until his load screen is finished. Afterwards the pilot who did the podding sits back and laughs and harrass the podded pilot by calling him a noob, easy kill and so on, then claims the pilot cant fight and so on. That to me is a form of grieving cause the pilot didnt have a fair chance... but then again when its 2 to 5 red pilots waiting on the one pilot to land.... its not really fair at all is it?

But what if the pilot in red thats landing doesnt have E and he is landing on a planet with a e field in the landing zone. and yet those waiting on him in the LZ pod him.... would that be fair considering he didnt have E to fight with?... but to deprive a pilot of getting E so they can fight is causing grief and so on.

But you all do as you wish...I am following Astraeus's recommendations.

 

[134679hun]

weres the option for get rid of all these new rules and put it back to the good ol times were red=dead no matter what, without all the cry baby sore loosers and all this nonsence

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

Wasnt no one crying.... I was informed of the no attack in the LZ. Just wanted to get it clarified. Also flaming comments are un wanted in Forms and in game.

But I would have to agree... if a pilot is red and is about to land in the LZ... that pilot should have some time to get set for it and not be shot on 5 or times before the game allows him to get settled in to fight. Thats far play...

So I take it hun your not into Fair play by your comments... have a good day...

 

[134679hun]

wasnt talking about this specific post, just in general, alot of people cry, and then claim there taking screen shoots and were breakin coc...

 

[Galaxy-Delta]

1 question: why is the game called Pirate Galaxy they better change it to Fair Galaxy
all what i hear is ''Fair Play'' in many other games they dont care about ''Fair Play'' because thats the fun of it.
And for this game there are for all things rules, rules, rules and that is the reason why ppl stop/leaves playing this game

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

well lets picture this....

Your landing and your RED...as soon as your screen starts to laod you see your being shot on. By the time the game finishes loading and you see where your at.... you in a pod. You never had a chance to shoot back at your attackers....according to some of you thats considered fair play. Especially when they cant shoot back.

After that instead of shooting other REDs... they chase you and if you turn red... they only pod you and leave the other REDs alone except you...I guess thats fair play as well. If your going to shoot REDs then shoot ALL of them not ones you want to cause trouble for.

Bantering turns to more than just Bantering....it turns to more grieveing and harrasseing. Causing the player to become angry...and they say something more than they should and gets jailed.... I guess thats fair play as well?

Way I see... to many people want to stretch what they think is fair play. So just remember Fair play is by Definition of the Game... not your description...

 

[Galaxy-Delta]

well lets picture this....

Your landing and your RED...as soon as your screen starts to laod you see your being shot on. By the time the game finishes loading and you see where your at.... you in a pod. You never had a chance to shoot back at your attackers....according to some of you thats considered fair play. Especially when they cant shoot back.

After that instead of shooting other REDs... they chase you and if you turn red... they only pod you and leave the other REDs alone except you...I guess thats fair play as well. If your going to shoot REDs then shoot ALL of them not ones you want to cause trouble for.

Bantering turns to more than just Bantering....it turns to more grieveing and harrasseing. Causing the player to become angry...and they say something more than they should and gets jailed.... I guess thats fair play as well?

Way I see... to many people want to stretch what they think is fair play. So just remember Fair play is by Definition of the Game... not your description...

Turning pirate mode on is a OWN RISK!!! you understand it now?

if you dont want to be podded at lz then dont turn it on!

 

[CtMurphy]

I don't agree with any of the options listed in the poll. Can you make an option to abstain?

also I don't think the rules do any good. They only seem to be creating more frustration. I think this could be very easily solved simply but allowing pilots the ability to turn of pirate mode in orbit. but in return inscrease how long it takes to get out of combat mode.

I don't really care for these silly rules myself and they're becoming childish ^.^;

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

Galaxy Delta remember that when your clan mates are in GM room complaining they getting podded during missions for being red....

 

[Galaxy-Delta]

i think the solution for all the PM mode problems is just turn the Pirate Mode 1.0 back because Pirate Mode 2.0 is causing a lot of problems

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

The tread started out being something about attacking REDS in LZ...and giving players a fair fight in a pvp. So far from what I have read... most of you like the idea of killing someone as they land cause while they are loading the land zone up.... they dont have a chance at a fair fight.

So that tells me most of you dont want a fair fight... you want to brag about how you killed someone who was in a half loaded screen...

 

[virusuriv]

Dear SBG,
Please stop complaining and whing and making the game an un-fun place for the rest of us.
Respectively - The community.

If they want to be an instigating, un-fair, no respect jerk.. Let them. Contrary to popular belief, you cannot own anyone in the game nor can you control how everyone is going to play it.

Red is an option, not a requirement. Even once it's on, you land and die.. Now your white. You don't want to get podded in the lz multiple times?.. Don't go red. Are they forcing you to stay white? No. But it does make so that you look foolish if you go red and whine when you get podded again

 

[SetsunaFFSeiei]

Dear SBG,
Please stop complaining and whing and making the game an un-fun place for the rest of us.
Respectively - The community.

If they want to be an instigating, un-fair, no respect jerk.. Let them. Contrary to popular belief, you cannot own anyone in the game nor can you control how everyone is going to play it.

Red is an option, not a requirement. Even once it's on, you land and die.. Now your white. You don't want to get podded in the lz multiple times?.. Don't go red. Are they forcing you to stay white? No. But it does make so that you look foolish if you go red and whine when you get podded again

But (luckly) there's some respectful players that don't pod when the 'enemies' when they're not rdy, when they're on missions and when they're in lower system ships...
Ofc even if i'm one of them i do'nt not expect the same treatment hehe afterall red is a risk ^^

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

Dear SBG,
Please stop complaining and whing and making the game an un-fun place for the rest of us.
Respectively - The community.

If they want to be an instigating, un-fair, no respect jerk.. Let them. Contrary to popular belief, you cannot own anyone in the game nor can you control how everyone is going to play it.

Red is an option, not a requirement. Even once it's on, you land and die.. Now your white. You don't want to get podded in the lz multiple times?.. Don't go red. Are they forcing you to stay white? No. But it does make so that you look foolish if you go red and whine when you get podded again

I wasnt whinning... I was asking Astraeus about the fighting in LZ. Everyone else started complaining as to how they didnt like it. But Becauswe it was me who asked.... Everyone wants to flame me, which is fine...I havnt been podded lately with exception to CQ's.

But there's one good thing that has come out of this post. We now know who the Disrespectful and Flaming players are now....

thank you