fed up of bps being stolen

[fyreseeker]

tile says it all
you know how it goes your just blasting away you able to kill the mantis then some hero come along takes 1-2 shots at it and takes the bp/cry/whatever
ive had that happen 4 times now and im fed up off doing all the work only for someone else to take what should be mine
would it be hard to change the visibility depending how much damage a player did as in
player 1 shoots mantis takes most of the health and sees what drops
player 2 comes along takes 1 shot sees nothing as he did less damage

 

[defacto]

a good way to stop bp stealing:

SayLAYER NAME IS A BP STELAER
or: PLAYER NAME-NOOB BP STEALER

don't forget caps!

 

[sir-vivol]

dont let me get into my CAPS-mode

i have the same thing as fyreseeker,
4 days grinding for 1 bp..
the first 1 drops on day 3.. gets stolen.
second 1 drops on day 4 .. gets stolen.i was grinding for 4 hours straight untill 2 pilots show up n start to shoot targets that:

1. i shot first
2. were locked on me

and take my bp...

well i got sick n tired of it so i jacked the bp from the next player who came there to get it.
i had a talk with kimbo and he said to me that the game is called pirate galaxy and stealing is what pirates do.. so i stole my bp.
apparently Splitscreen is not planning to change the drop system how it is now.. while this could be so easy avoided by making the drop only visible to pilot who shot it first (also the only one to get kill count and should be enough an indicator that its his/her kill) & squad if he is in one.

but seeing that it wont change dont come complaining in a few weeks because someone or some group are stealing everything away in the lower systems from lower levels. because hey! it's pirategalaxy.
u want them to pay gold for bp boosters so we can steal them with our higher tech niiiiiice.

anyways, after 6 months of helping ppl in clan etc and getting my tech/rank/missions in a honest way by asking someone to help or just doing it by myself this is the turning point for me.
if i can steal ur stuff i will <exception on clanmembers n allies> and i will advise everybody to do the same coz why grind months long like we did before mizar n sol opened <each time> if u can have it the easy way?
it's the destination.. not the journey to it.. that counts. <-this is how i precieve how they wont us to act in the game.

so... pirates, man ur vessels and loot the galaxy.
dont think about that u ruïning somebody elses game experience.. ur pleasure is what counts only!!

[/sarcastic mode]

 

[SpaQuetti]

Yeah, I hate it when it happens with normal BPs and cryonite, but I RAGE when it happens with rares and/or cryonite from Harvesters.

I spent half my energy killing Harvies and wiping the floor with Interceptors so that one of those Harvies would stop being greedy and drop a 50+ crystal item, but noooo, some "pirate" comes and just takes it for himself.

Me: Used repair droid 3+ times, around 1'300e for killing Harvs & Inters.
The "pirate": 20e for afterburner.

What.

My suggestion:

if two players are shooting an enemy and one of those does 60 - 70% or more damage, drop the BP only for him.
if two players are shooting an enemy and both do like, around 50% damage (so they like, do about the same amount of damage) drop the BP only for those two, nobody else currently online.
if three players - || - and one does the most damage (use some formula for what the minimum damage should be to get a BP, like:

( 100 / number of players that have shot the enemy ) + half of the result of the equation in the brackets = minimum damage required for YOU to get a BP,

the dude who did most of the damage gets it etc.

 

[BucaneerBill]

Whilst I thought at one point the bp should only show to the person who gave it the most damage I now think leave it as it is. If that was the case it would be impossible to get someone a bp less your in a squad. Less rules are better in this case, leave it up to the players.

 

[sir-vivol]

My suggestion:

if two players are shooting an enemy and one of those does 60 - 70% or more damage, drop the BP only for him.
if two players are shooting an enemy and both do like, around 50% damage (so they like, do about the same amount of damage) drop the BP only for those two, nobody else currently online.
if three players - || - and one does the most damage (use some formula for what the minimum damage should be to get a BP, like:

( 100 / number of players that have shot the enemy ) + half of the result of the equation in the brackets = minimum damage required for YOU to get a BP,

the dude who did most of the damage gets it etc

ok

i go in a ship class higher then you..
i wait untill u shoot harvester 3 times <will activate lock on you for interceptors> then i shoot with my higher blaster the rest of the harvester..
i did most damage so i see the harvester cry..
u die coz u got more interceptors at 1 time on your tail then u can handle.

good deal?
dont think so..

give the drop to the person who engages mantis (or get engaged by mantis) .. that's the person who takes the initiative so when somebody jumps in to help/steal/piggyback-ride has no advantage with his/her action.

this will bypass any high-lowlevel advantage otherwise (like with your plan) i can see ways where high levels abuse lowlevels gamewise.

 

[SpaQuetti]

@sir-vivol:

You've got a good point, I didn't think of that before.
But your plan is flawed too.

I shoot a level XX harvester just once, and that is the initial shot. I think it takes 3 shots for interceptors to come down so you still don't get ANY kind of damage.

Then another person comes in, and now there are two options:

1. He sees that you aren't shooting the Harvester, and because he needs crystals he starts shooting it for himself. He uses up like 300-400 energy (depends, this is an example) and kills both the Harv and Inters.
Now, he sees you approaching to where the Harvie died, and suprisingly, you start collecting thin air! For you, you've just started collecting an Antares Collector, but since YOU shot the Harvie first, the other pilot that spent all that time/energy now gets nothing.

2. He sees that the Harvester is missing one little green line, and knows he won't get anything, so he just leaves / goes to another Harvie.

Now tell me, is your plan any more fair than mine?

 

[sir-vivol]

u can see if a harv has been shot..
it has the array of green particals around like when ir is repairing.
if u taunt a harv it will go in repairmode without being shot.

this is an indicator of a harv being shot <n kill count active still for the one who shot him> so u can see when is being shot n activated for the one that shot ir.
so dont go shooting harvs in repair mode.

 

[SpaQuetti]

Still, it doesn't matter if you can see if it is shot, if you just need crystals real fast you're done for. Some players won't even know about this system, especially newbies, so they will just complain/stop believeing that Harvies drop crystals.

 

[sir-vivol]

if u can see that its shot u know it doesnt show u drop...

and put this in the tutorial and every new noob will know this..

 

[defacto]

I got a idea. Until all this is implemented, let's post bp stealers here and let the be ashamed for all eternity...

 

[Adrana]

I got a idea. Until all this is implemented, let's post bp stealers here and let the be ashamed for all eternity...

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[defacto]

sorry...

 

[Dark_Lord]

Dont tell me about stealers, I hate them mostly the bp stealers.We all know that moon is damn hard, e very small and pilot max e very small too, impossible to even explore the map with mars bps.Now I hardly got to lvl 56 assasins, which are damn hard and want about 1k e and finally a bp drops.Than the guy who shoot it too stole it.(it was a aim scrambler anyway).Very annoying, its very hard to get those blasters without help ( the most annoying thing is that u need to get back to get e and pyros there are hell)

I know there is a problem with cry, bp stealing but as buccaneerbill said those ideas arent the best way of solving it.Would be hard getting a bp to someone else.So my idea is that u can steal bps only in pm so at least I have a chance for revenge.If ur white it gives me 10 secs advantage to get it.U also cant steal bps from lower systems even in red(u wont need to steal from them anyway, but I have seen bad examples where ppl steal just for fun or revenge), but can steal from ur system(even if the person who got the bp drop is lower system ship/BP.

regards
DarkLordADP

 

[nebulaman]

if i may add my opinion? i think bp theft is the worst thing you can do ion pg, its taking the fruits of someones hard work for yourself. its disgusting and i think anyone who does should get at least a weeks ban. and if ANYONE takes my bp, ill get my whole clan and me on you. i stole a bp of my friends once as a joke, and felt terrible for days after (if he reads this hell know who he is, sorry about that mate )
here endeth the rant. thanks.

 

[matey]

STOP MOANING - it's not even that bad, you snooze you looze! seriously, keep it the way it is, becuase i rarely get mine stolen and if i do i take them from someone else, eventually it all balances out, and the people that say "oh this isn't fair i've been grinding for days and someone came along and stole it" you weren't grinding for days at all, not when you come on about half an hour every evening, i won't name names. I am not encouraging BP theft, but if it happens to you do it back, it's PIRATE galaxy not HAPPY BUNNY LAND as you may have heard allot, so face it!

 

[JudgeDredd]

I dont want happy bunny land, I want to be able to shoot the punk that likes to steal. Its not really that much to ask. Ive watch for over a year, listened to the rants, complaints and down right hostile people over bp and crystal theft.

If this is PIRATE galaxy, then make it PIRATE galaxy so we can kick them off the plank, hard, cold and swift.

 

[schneider43]

Quick sollution.
The person who shoot first at a mantis gets the c or bP

 

[Daniah]

Quick sollution.
The person who shoot first at a mantis gets the c or bP

I shoot several Mantis once. Then I wait until you, knowing you are also on the same type of Mantis, bumble in and kill them all. Then I start collecting all the bp and cry, while you wonder how come none dropped anything and go off to the forum to rant against the developers that drop rates are way too low.

Yes, very nice solution indeed.

 

[schneider43]

It was only a suggestion.
You can see that someone is shooting a mantis by checking its damage!
If it goes at 100% the thing starts over again.
Do you have a better one???