Dante Sirius invasion event

[lance]

Hmm... Whats this?

Oh I see, its another whining flame thread about how every event since the SS takeover sucks.

Heres a new one for you guys;

GROW UP.

Seriously... what happened to doing events just for fun rather than for the reward? For fracks sake people, just calm down and actually enjoy something for once. If you go to the event for the reward only, you are all going to find it frustrating. Why not just go....

for fun?

The whole point of putting it on a PvP planet is so you can have some PvP FUN whilst killing mantis. People take all these rare ships and bps so seriously that I wish they just removed them from the game. They cause so much hassle thats its not even fun to do anything in game with all the complaining in alliance and clan chat.

OH NO SOMEONE STOLE YOUR BP BOO HOO HOW SAD.

NOW GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!

i suggest u also take an advice similar to urs but not refering to growing in size bt rather in mental faculty.
some enjoy flailig themselves or putting spikes through their body parts, walking on fire,etc. doesnt mean all should/wanna do it .
u go right ahead and do wht u think is "fun" but dont try to b prejudice in ur texts towards those tht dont share ur "fun".

and btw ur post looks suspiciosly like a good match to whining and flaming definitions u are acusing others of. all others (i have read all) just express their thoughts/feelings (in one way or another) on the threads TOPIC.
(just noticed after submitting )
.... lol Astraeus "likes ur words" i wonder if should message Adrana to tell "someone" to maybe reread forum rules.lol

Im not really sure what you are trying to get at here. I was addressing all the people who are complaining, and since they are complaining it is perfectly reasonable to assume that they are not enjoying the event. Im not condemning people who hunt rares, in no point in my previous post did i do that. Not all of my anger was directed at the specific people who posted here. There was a lot of hate and rage in alliance chat that got on my nerves too; that post was as much about that as it was about the people here.

All that post was was a rebbuttal to all the complaints of how the event "sucked". What do masochists and sadists have to do with anything i said?

I understand that, in attempting to insult my "mental faculty" you had to try to make yourself look intelligent, but what you have done is rambled on a topic that is, quite frankly, incomprihensable. Can I suggest you repost that and make it slightly clearer?

At the end of the day, that was my opinion. SS are not holding you at gunpoint forcing you to change your views on anything detrimental to the companies success. They do allow people to disagree, without flaming the person who you are disagreeing with. I know that's a slight double standard on my part but I was really irritated at the time of writing the previous post.

However, I stand by my opinion that arguments over bps and grinding spots and the like are futile and immature. There is no reason to whine and complain about events like that, as they are designed for the players benefit. If you complain so much about them there's nothing stopping SS from removing all events from the game, as all it seems to do is annoy all you guys. Perhaps some gratitude and a change of stance on the matter would go down better with SS then a flame thread.

Remember, constructive critisism gets you much further than nonscensical rants.

I just believe that the old days when there were only four rare bps were much better and had a much more friendly and helpful community then there is now. I stand by my opinion that these complaints and rants would not be so severe if so many rares and achievements etc hadn't been added to the game.

Again, thats my opinion. No one is forcing you to insult my mental faculty.

Oh, btw, before embarassing yourself further...

faculty is a mental ability; a mental faculty doesnt make sense as that is the equivelent of saying "a mental mental ability". It appears that, in order to insult my faculty, you have indirectly inferred certain restrictions of your own. ^^

 

[Ctfunnygirl]

Hey guys.. its getting a little personal.

Can we simply stick to the topic of the topic so the post stays open?

I would like to learn of other people's opinion of the event.

 

[WRAITH1]

wanted to reply here just to b polite but i disagree with non topic, flaming arguments cluttering someones thread so i have sent a personal message with the reply.

 

[Whatever]

dante is pvp planet. event require squad to kill meths. so when squad shoots and someone comes to tag and steal of course they will all gang that one player. remember red=dead right? well no one is forcing anyone to land on dante. I said that there should be cryo protect on dante in order to reduce anger of being podded and losing 1.2k+ cryo for r75 players, but remember, in the end it's SS who sets the rules of the engagement. like it or not, landing on dante is in the end voluntary and you land there on your own risk. all this flaming in the topic is useless so Adrana should probably put this thread behind a:

 

[spikefin]

Its day 3 for me, one thing i have to wonder, If i like it, and you don't, speaking to the people that don't, How can it be fixed?

I don't understand the PvP in this game yet, killed people drop cry, that i can't pick up, but they can...

I get points for killing people, this increases my xp gain, but the second i die, i lose the points and gain...

I may not understand it, but i still enjoy when i have time to land on dante and pod/be podded, Whateva suggested i have plenty of shooting time with my e, i don't, But i know how to fix that, pay for membership, which i would have done with the weekend specials if they didn't fall on this country's 4 day national holiday so i cant transfer money lol.

I have to say, they have a big job keeping us all happy, and something ive noticed on all game forums, mad people come to forums to vent, happy people don't as much.

Only take my opinions with a pinch of salt, im still learning the game, but i can tell ya, dante is a tonne better than the "Help Fighters" mission im on lol.

 

[WRAITH1]

since i havent destroyed a boss ship on dante cause as i said seems i was alone there at the time i wonder in my personal logic if the invested risk is worth the rewards, and im not talking about "fun" as reward in this case.lol
another aspect i would think it would b time consuming even for members having to refill at least 6k e or such every podding incident having to fly off to higher e bubble system (i dont see anyone getting clickeritis refilling 9250 e on 20 e bubbles thts 925 clicks (462,5x2))
of course players are dissapointed being excluded yet again from another part of the game.
maybe its just a provisional event to see how sirius ideas work.

anyways i am also dissapointed i cannot participate when and as i wish in a game part but on the other hand im curious if non red sq bossing would b any better cause then u couldnt even fight bk at the noobs tht just sit and wait for a drop.
maybe a solution could b to have bosses like the easter eggs, instanced soloable and squadable could b a solution and may yet come imo.
if the other players tht do not like the pvp aspect of this game could pve for maybe less chances at rewards at least theyd have an option too and access to "gravi train" then noone would care if some would opt to go bash their pods in on dante (which imo is rather a clan thingy ull see clans starting to fight eachother there and many complains will follow imo)

I don't understand the PvP in this game yet, killed people drop cry, that i can't pick up, but they can...
I get points for killing people, this increases my xp gain, but the second i die, i lose the points and gain...

u gain nothing but maybe a bounty (which if u are able to keep til end of the week seems to count towards war score; if someone pods u they get ur bounty and the sensless cycle restarts) and a log entry and maybe the "fun" all tht like pvp mentioned.

in the old system i used to pvp constantly so i know fair pvp (evenly matched equipment and pilots) is like a flip of the coin has nothing to do with tability/strategy . matters who the software lets get in tht extra critical hit or such so seems to serve no purpose just to ease boredom for some.

 

[spikefin]

Thats interesting to know, in a previous thread i was told there's no real PvE either, id say if i come back to this game, i will have to get into CQ, there must be something in this game that keeps you all at level 75 lol. Although i was finding "leveling" pretty entertaining, im going to put down my controller, at least for a little while, When i spend 12 hours on a "as intended" mission and can't even come close to success, thats a game killer lol.

Much respect to all those that got past "Help Fighters" lol.

 

[WRAITH1]

dont wanna seem impolite but this is a topic thread and though u may have questions its not fair to the thread owner to "chat" here.
if u require help theres forum private messaging ingame chat and even ingame GM chat or u can make ur own forum thread.

 

[ridoi]

Wraith, everyone complains, even my own mother, but listen when it's no use then just wait and see the progress...
For gods sake does no one understand it is almost no use, you can either complain or play the game, it is so many games that says they are pve and pvp, but the players that came first all was dominate or the ones that pay for the game! I don't say you can't complain, but really each time we did complain, something bad happens even for a second we might think it is good, I am getting a bit sick just to stay.


I'm so bored of the game, the only thing i can do is to come online 2-3 times a day for 1-2 hours and ask if anyone needs my help or just chat for no meaning. Well my point is, why complain if it's no use and not just quit or keep playing?

 

[Defcon]

I will not reply to somebody's alias.

looking back on this Event i can only conclude that there were upsides and downsides ;

Positive :

- bosses were good and took effort to kill, but it was managable with squads
- there was 2 instances and that gave opportunity for goodwilling people to get organized, allthough a little confusing
- we had 'enemy players' in the 'calm' instance and allowed them also to take part and share in bp drop
- an event like this is possible and enjoyable but requires good communication and some leaders that keep the groups focussed
- although the droprate was low, i think most players in the organized groups got some looth in gravitons or bp's
- another major positive point : tech limitations, no big ships popping of lower level tech in one shot. All had pretty much same gear. So 1 v 1 it was pretty much on same level.

Negative :

- most people i spoke to in chat or in raidcall did not like it because of the pvp ganging goin on, that prevented constructive co-operation between goodwilling players
- i have seen a lot off anger, frustration and swearing in public AND clan chat
- i have seen how a few players were able to frustrate good willing co-operative groups
- players got kicked out of clans \
- clans got kicked from alliance
- droprate was rather low, it could be a little higher, i don;t mean 5 times but maybe double the drops.
- boss spawn rate could be a little higher, maybe 2,5 hours between spawning?

My suggestion too Splitscreen / Organizors :

- fair enough, u planned a mixed event so PVP + PVE > next time communicate this better. So tell us that we need good organizition and co-operation to get something from the event.

- keep this 2 instances thing in, that was good and prevented that both instances could be dominated by people only there to pod others

- do this on 1 planet, as u did, so all fly in same tech level. Taht was a good one too (look a smile, you don't seen them much from me )

Overall , thx for the effort and i hope players and organizors learned something from this event.

Defcon

 

[WRAITH1]

Wraith, everyone complains, even my own mother, but listen when it's no use then just wait and see the progress...

one person sees a complaint other sees a normal game forums discussion. by your logic looking at ur post IT looks like a complaint even more than others.lol

For gods sake does no one understand it is almost no use, you can either complain or play the game, it is so many games that says they are pve and pvp, but the players that came first all was dominate or the ones that pay for the game! I don't say you can't complain, but really each time we did complain, something bad happens even for a second we might think it is good, I am getting a bit sick just to stay.


I'm so bored of the game, the only thing i can do is to come online 2-3 times a day for 1-2 hours and ask if anyone needs my help or just chat for no meaning. Well my point is, why complain if it's no use and not just quit or keep playing?

i guess thts why u come on forums to complain.lol

- most people i spoke to in chat or in raidcall did not like it because of the pvp ganging goin on, that prevented constructive co-operation between goodwilling players
- i have seen a lot off anger, frustration and swearing in public AND clan chat
- i have seen how a few players were able to frustrate good willing co-operative groups
- players got kicked out of clans \
- clans got kicked from alliance
Defcon

could b this is just a prelude to sirius love amongst players.lol

 

[Adrana]

This stops now, or I will close this thread!

 

[Defcon]

Yes please Adrana, just close it.

It was meant as a topic on Dante event. Yes a complaint, but somebody has listened and seen what was going on, so you did something.

Thx for that, as a player i like the idea that sometimes things can be changed for the better.

There is another thread on it also.

Greetz Defcon

 

[lance]

since i havent destroyed a boss ship on dante cause as i said seems i was alone there at the time i wonder in my personal logic if the invested risk is worth the rewards, and im not talking about "fun" as reward in this case.lol
another aspect i would think it would b time consuming even for members having to refill at least 6k e or such every podding incident having to fly off to higher e bubble system (i dont see anyone getting clickeritis refilling 9250 e on 20 e bubbles thts 925 clicks (462,5x2))
of course players are dissapointed being excluded yet again from another part of the game.
maybe its just a provisional event to see how sirius ideas work.

anyways i am also dissapointed i cannot participate when and as i wish in a game part but on the other hand im curious if non red sq bossing would b any better cause then u couldnt even fight bk at the noobs tht just sit and wait for a drop.
maybe a solution could b to have bosses like the easter eggs, instanced soloable and squadable could b a solution and may yet come imo.
if the other players tht do not like the pvp aspect of this game could pve for maybe less chances at rewards at least theyd have an option too and access to "gravi train" then noone would care if some would opt to go bash their pods in on dante (which imo is rather a clan thingy ull see clans starting to fight eachother there and many complains will follow imo)

The problems here are as old as the game; there have always been requests for infinite e / better e balls on cq and battle planets. I dont think that will change though, as SS make a lot of money from it.

Solo players are excluded from this part of the game, I agree. But the whole idea of it (in my mind) was a clan competition. If you have no clan or are in an inactive one, join one. Then you dont have to be excluded from this event. This is an mmorpg, where the focus is on teamwork. It was the same with the easter event, that was nigh on impossible to do solo (well, i found it that way at least).

I do think it would have been better if, like normal missions, you could accept it in orbit and the difficulty would adjust depending on the number of squad members you had. I personally think that if you go in only for the reward involved, then that would be a better option.

As for the gravitons, I thought they were only really useful in CQs, so that it was more of a clan reward as it was a clan orientated event.

The easter event was more well thought out, but I saw this one as a simple clan match. I think SS were just trying to spice things up a little and have things a bit different from the previous events.

I would have prefered it if it was done in multiple systems though, it was irritating that they put everyone and their mother on the same planet for one reward.

 

[lance]

Oh and Lance .....

Check that pilot profile. 856 days played and done 12 missions. I wonder who's second account this is. And why the pilot does not dare giving his opportunity under his actual pilot name.

Maybe that is a bit strange, don't you think.

Oh? I was mainly playing on that account for about a week and forgot to change it. Ill do that now. If you want to whine directly in my face then feel free. If you think i would be pathetic enough to hide behind a false name on purpose then you dont know me.

The thing is that if SS put out a solo event, people will say "its not fair because I dont have the right tech to prevail" or "its too hard solo" or "if you dont have a membership its impossible" etc.

If its a clan event then they say "we are excluded because we dont have a decent clan / there is an imbalance." or "i dont have a clan" etc.

You cant win. That is why its so frustrating to see all the hate on here because it is totally useless.

As Wraith1 said, too: If it was a non-red event then there would be complaints about people sitting and doing nothing and getting all the reward.

At the end of the day, some events are not going to be for all the players. If something isnt your forte, you are going to have to sit out. There will always be more events for different people with different tastes.

I personally dont like some aspects of the event, so I didnt go. Simple as that. There is no need, at all, to whine on the forums about how unfair it is. Guess what?

Life is unfair. I thought you would have realised that by now.

It is ONLY because the reward is the rare ships that people are annoyed. If the reward was cry, people wouldnt be too bothered. But as its a ship that looks slightly different, OMG we must all get it!

Its exactly the same principle as the contemporary art syndrome. Someone saws a cow in half and calls it art, and it sells for millions, with everyone wanting it. Noone questions why they actually need a sawn in half cow, or if they even like the sawn in half cow, they just try and get it because its different.

Can people not see that life is still perfectly enjoyable without the sawn in half cow?

 

[Defcon]

Oh and Lance .....

Check that pilot profile. 856 days played and done 12 missions. I wonder who's second account this is. And why the pilot does not dare giving his opportunity under his actual pilot name.

Maybe that is a bit strange, don't you think.

Oh? I was mainly playing on that account for about a week and forgot to change it. Ill do that now. If you want to whine directly in my face then feel free. If you think i would be pathetic enough to hide behind a false name on purpose then you dont know me.

The thing is that if SS put out a solo event, people will say "its not fair because I dont have the right tech to prevail" or "its too hard solo" or "if you dont have a membership its impossible" etc.

If its a clan event then they say "we are excluded because we dont have a decent clan / there is an imbalance." or "i dont have a clan" etc.

You cant win. That is why its so frustrating to see all the hate on here because it is totally useless.

As Wraith1 said, too: If it was a non-red event then there would be complaints about people sitting and doing nothing and getting all the reward.

At the end of the day, some events are not going to be for all the players. If something isnt your forte, you are going to have to sit out. There will always be more events for different people with different tastes.

I personally dont like some aspects of the event, so I didnt go. Simple as that. There is no need, at all, to whine on the forums about how unfair it is. Guess what?

Life is unfair. I thought you would have realised that by now.

It is ONLY because the reward is the rare ships that people are annoyed. If the reward was cry, people wouldnt be too bothered. But as its a ship that looks slightly different, OMG we must all get it!

Its exactly the same principle as the contemporary art syndrome. Someone saws a cow in half and calls it art, and it sells for millions, with everyone wanting it. Noone questions why they actually need a sawn in half cow, or if they even like the sawn in half cow, they just try and get it because its different.

Can people not see that life is still perfectly enjoyable without the sawn in half cow?

Yes, Iceinferno / Lance, that maybe your opinion. I, and i bet 90% of the other players, like collecting this 'virtual' stuff like ships and bit's and stuff. That is one of the things that keeps MMOG's going. People like to gather stuff. And it's very annoying if players get obstructed and annoyed bye other players during this gathering proces.

So, i do want this 'sawn in hal cow' BP. Please tell me where it drops. It will cheer me up when i find it.

Bye the way, i remeber us getting along together in this game fine in the passt. And i want to keep it that way.

Greetz Defcon

Thank You