Cryonite penalty in lower systems idea.

[lance]

Now, i know people were getting annoyed that higher levels stole all the harvs and this didnt give the lower ones a chance to grind. But there is a problem with this, now anyone who has just got to the level required for the next systems ship needs to grind cry, and they most likely have the next systems bps on their old system ship. This creates a problem, grinding harvs in the higher system im much too difficult, but grinding them in the lower system gives a cry yield of about 2-3k an hour because of the restrictions.

What I suggest is that Cryonite penalties are only given when your in the ship of the higher system, irrespective of the bps you have installed. This would mean that higher levels could grind in lower systems, but not steall all the harvs because their armour would not be sufficient to hold out against so many interceptors. It would also mean that the transition between systems would be less awkward, as you either have to downgrade your ship or have a very low cryonite yield.

Idk if this is the right solution for it, but I have found the transitions between mizar and sol, and sol and draconis, very awkward and it could easily be made smoother...

 

[pbhuh]

no, that would mean that I could fit my Rare Mizar Storm with moon tech and get the same cry as an full rare mizar ship.

btw, I would totally get punished by this as I use a ZP Power Blaster on my Meta Sniper,

 

[ramtex]

I just want to be able to grind cryo. Prefer to be able to exceed 10k per hour with a booster. Like the idea of penalities, not sure if it is good for game or not though.

Liking some of the new changes.

 

[Caribou71]

like the idea at first, but a penality on gazica with a draco ship because you use hiv tech is ridiculous..i would undertsand if i go in sol or mizar with that ship...but not in draco.

i didnt try it but if they follow the same rule, the sol ship with rare will have a penality grinding on moon and mars??? that means we have to grind only on earth??

i hope they will change it soon, to have a penality only if you are in a lower system.

 

[CtMurphy]

I was on moon with rared out sol storm, 19% penalty on the MOON... and on mars it was kinda rediculous, I got a 39% penalty on MARS using SOL tech, I' with these guys completely on this one, if I was using a sol ship in a lower system, then fair enough but in SOL, no way, I should nOT be penalized for having the best tech in the system I'm in, no way

 

[Firebrand1]

I was on moon with rared out sol storm, 19% penalty on the MOON... and on mars it was kinda rediculous, I got a 39% penalty on MARS using SOL tech, I' with these guys completely on this one, if I was using a sol ship in a lower system, then fair enough but in SOL, no way, I should nOT be penalized for having the best tech in the system I'm in, no way

agreed. the cryonite penalty should be based on ship level not equipment level (not having any effect on ships of the same system, of course)

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

This is what you get for whining about how some grind... you complain and split screen makes the game worse going by your own idea's.

Now sleep in the world you helped create....

 

[nachoninja]

I think this is a great Idea but could use a bit of tweaking. I think that as long as your in the respective ship of that system with system tech you should receive not penalty. If your in a higher system ship with higher tech or in a same system ship with high tech, then impose a penalty. This system would let people still grind cryo and also let players all have a chance to harv. It also puts a stop for the players who say they are grinding for cry when they are just trying to build up warscore. Again I hope there can be some adjustments to this system in place, otherwise, GREAT IDEA!!!

Regards,
Nachoninja

 

[Silver_Bullet_GhOsT]

People are always gripping about War Score... incase some of you dont know when you reach lvl 75.... thats it you get no more points for anything except 2 points per mantis...

So now the question becomes this.... Is it fair for those who are lvl 75 not be able to gain war score by mass killing in the lowers?....

Ask anyone.... 2 points per mantis once you reach lvl 75....I think if you made it that far you have the right to grind and get war score best you can...but thats ok when you all reach lvl 75 and you cant grind for cry in mass or war score cause you all put a stop to it... so have fun working harder for what was easy to begin with.

 

[Adrana]

Moving this to suggestions, please next time post in the right board.

 

[Proteus1959]

How about this! A ship can grind anywhere in any system with no penalty provided the tech does not exceed that which is available in that system. However, the ability to collect cryo in any system should be based on the level of the tech used. Therefor, in order to collect cryo on the Moon I need a Sol ship or lower to do so. Any Drac. tech. would negate that ability. The current penalty in reality, can not keep me from Molikar as I can 1 shot everything, and from a distance too! I will still gain 100k if I want to. Force me to squad up with a lower level player and help him grind. A lot of the higher levels may not like what I say but in fairness, we are stealing their planets!, we need to pay! Force me to compromise and help a lower level player. That is what the game is about isn't it? Teamwork!

 

[Galm]

This would have the exact opposite of the effect you just stated. it would force us to stay in those systems longer because we would need even more cryo. Which would mean the lower levels would most likely never be able to grind in their own systems. if we keep it as it is then it wouldnt take as long to get the cryo we need, alowing the lower levels to spend more time grinding too.

 

[Proteus1959]

I beg to differ on this. The simplist way to explain it is that there is no reduction in drops, provided that there is a system ship involved, either piloted by you or working in tandem with another player piloting a system ship. It is my understanding that all squad members suffer the penalty if a higher level ship is in squad. Whereas the drop rate increases overall, I feel the amount of cryo lost is negligable. The single pilot would loose some because he would be forced to fly a system ship which would probably be rared out anyway, still giing him the advantage over the Mantis. Working in squad, Greater ship shooting, system ship collecting, the loss if any is minimal, but probably non extistant due to the increased drop rate. Your level is high enough to remember Drac. ships on Molikar and Mars, where a system ship couldn't get near a harv. This would be fair because it would allow you to grind on lesser systems and receive the full drop rate, yet not deprive the players that are stuck in that sytem of needed cryonite. System ships should have first priority! We do have elsewhere to grind, some of us just choose not to.

 

[pbhuh]

People

you are talking about the great cry penalty and want to solve this by not thinking right.

May I say to you that your ideas about the cryonite penalty are completely wrong and that you have an idea here that is even worse.

Lets go do some math.

I love math ^^

When a certain ship might be rank 60 and the tech you place on it is also rank 60, and you wanna change the cryonite penalty from tech and ship to only ship, what does it change?

Lets calculate that, 60-60=0 0x5=0 0/5=0 and we come on, 0
So, thats 0, nothing, mmhh.

The only way that you might get a bonus by this is having a stam s- with hive tech. But I think it's not supposed to be like that.

So please people,

Think before you make an even worse system as you only want to punish me with this.

Not that it will actually change anything by me, but still.

 

[Proteus1959]

huh?

People

you are talking about the great cry penalty and want to solve this by not thinking right.

May I say to you that your ideas about the cryonite penalty are completely wrong and that you have an idea here that is even worse.

Lets go do some math.

I love math ^^

When a certain ship might be rank 60 and the tech you place on it is also rank 60, and you wanna change the cryonite penalty from tech and ship to only ship, what does it change?

Lets calculate that, 60-60=0 0x5=0 0/5=0 and we come on, 0
So, thats 0, nothing, mmhh.

The only way that you might get a bonus by this is having a stam s- with hive tech. But I think it's not supposed to be like that.

So please people,

Think before you make an even worse system as you only want to punish me with this.

Not that it will actually change anything by me, but still.

 

[pbhuh]

that this idea doesn't work as it will not make the Cryonite Penalty Lower.

If Sirius will be released you can count that the Rank 70 ships will be listed for the first storyplanet of sirius instead of hive. Other systems doesn't even matter.