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JudgeDredd

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I dont get as much time any more to play, and what little time I get I like to make productive. In the beginning when we only had two systems, when Gemini was put in, it was a free for all mess on opening day. Constant was the theft of blueprints and crystals. We posted back then that it was iritating that sombody could take a single shot at the mantis you were working hard on and then sweep in and take the goodies.

When Mizar came out, the outrage was even worse, the blueprint drops were harder and clans worked even harder to steal anything they could get. Some bad feelings, grudges and clan wars erupted over stealing blueprints and crystals. Again this was posted on the forums in rants, ideas section and other areas and it still continued.

Now Sol is out. For the first time in weeks, I logged in to check out the new system, take a few pot shots at Mantis and get started. Yet again, 1 hour into the game, more than 40k energy wasted and for what? The only two blueprint drops I got were stolen.

Im not going to waste any more time working hard for something thats just going to be stolen and have people go 'Oh well, tough luck' . They should make it where the first person that shoots the mantis gets a 5-10 second advantage where he can get the bp before it appears to others or make it where if they are going to steal, they have to be in pirate mode. Personally I cant tolerate sombody stealing blueprints and they get to sit back and laugh at you knowing you cant do squat about it but complain.

Now with so many people on the planet its useless to try missions and hunting. My connection is constantly yellow or red so I cant even get to a blueprint or crystal before sombody has already taken it. I had hoped with the release of Sol this would be fixed, but just like the other systems it was ignored. So for now, I quit.
 

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:( Sad to see you go. You were one of the good ones. You will be missed... :(
 

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-you got to work on your internetconnection, judge:) - (like split/screen;) -and my guess is that you will get a pilot on the northamerican server, when it`s starting up?:)
 

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We have implemented a planet instancing system that spawns a new planet everytime the original one hit 50 users so BP theft will be reduced hopefully.
 

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Delloda said:
We have implemented a planet instancing system that spawns a new planet everytime the original one hit 50 users so BP theft will be reduced hopefully.
Maybe for the 2nd or 3rd (of you get 150 people on the same planet, lol) intance :S but for the first, there are still 50 players on it there - so, yeah.
 

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Splitting the worlds didnt do any good. Even with only 50people on a planet, 3 out of 4 bps were still stolen. With a bp drop only about every 10-15 minutes on average, its simply a waste of time, money and gold to keep trying for something that sombody else just takes from you.
 

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Unfortunately Dredd I do not see the blueprint/crystal stealing problem being solved, where you say the 5-10 second advantage I like the idea, but without these stealer's, the game itself is great, now with SOL even better.Please do not let these ill-minded people change your opinion of the game, we all have to put up with it

Thanks ODST_Bob
 

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I have been affected by cry/BP theft, had a Mizar Stun Charge stolen from me whilst on Molikar. Not goin' naming 'nd shaming but "Bloopeebla"(not their real name :p) was near the Custodian I was just finishing, and Bloopeebla took the final shot whilst being right on top of it, making them have the first grab of the rare. Bloopeebla managed to collect it before I even clicked it, so I'm rather ticked off about that :p
 

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I know you don't like other games being discussed, so I won't mention it's name (no NOT eve). But you might want to consider their way of dealing with such problems.

When items (eg, crys, bps) fall from shot targets, they are only available to the player who caused the most damage to a target, and not to anyone else that was fighting it at the same time. This is also the case for parties (squads), where only that party has access to the items. The same system applies for quests (missions), where only the player on the quest can collect quest-specific items.

However, there is a time limit for when that player/party can collect (say two minutes), after which time the item(s) become available to anyone. This system works, and nobody complains in the game or the forums, about stealing. It just doesn't happen.

Now, I know the attitude is "well it's Pirate Galaxy, and that's what pirates do, get used to it !" But consider, a well-respected and highly-regarded former GM/CoMa has quit the game because of the stealing. If that isn't a MAJOR warning sign, then I don't know what is. It's up to you now Splitscreen, fix the problems or watch the rest of your players depart also.
 

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It's a competetive game, like i heard someone say, "it's pirate galaxy not happy bunny land". Just stay around people you trust so they won't steal it i suppose.
 

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Guys/Girls,its just a game so dont even bother....sometimes you win,somtimes you loose....just like reallife
when you dont like it,dont play the game!!!

there where some times whem they stole my BP too,but thats the game....thats how i see it!
and NO,i dont steal from others!!!

be realistic about it!
 
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Adrana

I must agree with Toxity in this, I think all players has confronted the same issue, being stolen or stealing themselves.
In all games there are good and bad things, you have really to like the game to get over it.
This happens every day, every hour, and every minute of the game.

You just have to improve your own skills, getting better, stronger, and faster in the game to manage to keep some bp's, there is such as squaded team play, that would increase your chances to get the wished bp.
 

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So Adrana your saying that this is a team game now and an individual cant succeed with out being in a squad??

Utter rubbish !

Players that steal bp are nothing less that low life who dont need the bp they just steal because they can, let get back to Judge post and lets have someone from Splitscreen state if they are going to put measures in place to have this stopped.
I too have had bp taken on Mars and i,m close to calling it a day too, where have the good times gone ?
 

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Nemy said:
where have the good times gone ?
What good times are you refering to? BP and cryonite theft has been around since Antares was the highest system in the game and everyone was nagging to the developers about when Gemini would be released. :p

My answer to this theft-issue:
This game is "Pirate Galaxy", not 'Big-Happy-Family Galaxy".

And I have been on both sides of the issue, I've stolen and been stolen from. That's the game. I chose to live with it.
 

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Daniah... why do you always come with awesome answers...

Myself i have to admit... i have stolen... sorry everyone, i hope that i won't get BP mad again.. :mad:
 

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defacto said:
Daniah... why do you always come with awesome answers...
What can I say? It's a gift and I'm pretty infamous because of it. :) People love me for it, and some hate me for it.
Usually, the ones hating me are the ones wo see their arguments pounded into a oblivion through a simple statement of mine, after a long long discussion with others... :mrgreen:
 

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Yeah this is a big problem of PG.I know its called pirate galaxy but its not that pirate at all.Pirates kill whatever steals them or get killed by their stealers.But what can u do here, u cant kill the stealer because its white.I like the idea of being able to steal only when ur red.

at nemy:
This is a team work game m8.With the release of sol its impossible to work alone.Moon is even harder than what we though.Without someone helping u, u cant even explore the map.

At Daniah:
Not sure, I know its pirate galaxy but it looks more like ''the galaxy where u can steal as much as u want without getting podded''.As I said u cant do anything to the stealer.If u could kill or try to kill him it would be better(Just for revenge lol)

Regards
DarkLordADP
 

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So what it basically comes down to is that the stealing itself wouldn't be so bad, if the pvp system in this game would be a lot better than it is now. And thàt is an issue which has been brought up countless times before, but hasn't been adressed much by Splitscreen so far.

As in: still no countdown for someone turning on p mode. No reward for podding someone. No appeal from conquests because of mass alliances,... etc etc etc...
 

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Ok, then if people want to steal, make it where they can only do it in Pirate mode, since its Pirate Galaxy, lets make it where we can defend or kill the twinks that want to steal :devilish:
 

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JudgeDredd said:
Ok, then if people want to steal, make it where they can only do it in Pirate mode, since its Pirate Galaxy, lets make it where we can defend or kill the twinks that want to steal :devilish:
I agre with you here, this way you get pirate galaxy but others who just want to remain quiet and undisturbed can remain like that, but one question, two people aren't in pm, they both shoot the target, what happens next?
 
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