Auction System (Blackmarket)

[STRAYDOG]

I think it might be a good idea to introduce an auction style system for buying bps with cryo.

This could either be a clan/alliance only or system wide system where pilots bid on bp's with cryo.

As with most pirates (past/present/future) and trading posts world/galaxy wide there's a 'blackmarket' for everything... so this could also be extended to ships etc.

This would add some extra excitement to the game for 'aspiring' pilots and before everyone screams 'ya only da top players loaded with cryo will win bids' please remember that most of us have all that we need already... and if we don't, well there's still no guarantee that a top player will win a bid.

Just an idea I'm chucking about for today...

STRAYDOG
Admiral of the Illuminati Elite

 

[EgyptianMan]

nah thats wont be cool and that idea is from darkorbit i used to play that boring 2d game i would think of materials that we find at the planets and we can sell them at the space stations for a cryi-gold and also we can buy from stations and so on ( trading system )

 

[SetsunaFFSeiei]

nah thats wont be cool and that idea is from DO i used to play that boring 2d game i would think of materials that we find at the planets and we can sell them at the space stations for a cryi-gold and also we can buy from stations and so on ( trading system )

But on the other hand, you can sell the bp's that you don't need to other players and you got a profit of it.
Of course, that way no one will ever look for bp's again but the problem is, what could you do with the bp's that you do'nt use?

A huge delimma....

 

[Defcon]

Well straydog, I like the idea.

But i can tell u, SS and Devs will not like it. Simply because we 'the players' are meant to shoot endlessly on targets to find stuff. The whole idea is making us shoot 'just one more' because it might drop the right BP.
Any idea that would somehow make u not shoot without end for the BP's, will be thrown in bin instantly.

Why? Because getting us players in that mindset that we actually are willing and happy to shoot for hours and hours on the same target is the core of any MMOG. Don't need to believe me, just google 'skinner-box' you will get to some articles about MMOG's and what makes people tick in these games.

But, in this game, with Draconis where it is, they are in a tight spot. it's almost impossible to make it even harder for players without loosing players. And I figured that the players that now are surviving in Draconis are the players that are paying for memberships, like u and me.

That leaves them with a problem. How many players that actually pay can they afford to loose. So, how much harder can they make it without loosing money. At what point players will come to the conclusion that enough is enough? Or to put it in MMOG psychology > when is the reward not in balance with the effort and the player brain will get out of the frenzy hoarding / gathering mode. With some kind off a hangover.

It is a precarious balance. And i am just curious to see what it will be in this next system. And i think they will wait till there is enough players in Draconis, waiting for the new system, that they can afford to loose some.

Players are thinking about a way to make it easier to get what they want and that is the direct opposite off the direction MMOG developers think. They only think about ways to make it harder, make you shoot more.
And make you do that till the sun goes supernova if possible.

Any idea of making it possible for players to get a bp without shooting will die faster then a snowball in hell. Sorry to say.

Defcon

 

[BeN]

Those ideas arent new.. it was loooong time ago when i saw ppl talking with gms about those ideas... and i think.. they will not bring any kind of trade/blackmarket ect.. dont forget splitscreen need money.. they get it from you players that want to get bps/items/cryo/missions ect.. you want to get them faster so you buy gold with real money and with gold some buy boosters/memberships ect and thats how it works...

 

[Adrana]

You are right BeN, PG will not now nor in the future have any trading system.
It has been told so many times, but one more time will not hurt as we have new players.
Ideas about trading system is not new ideas at all.

This would probably open up the possibility of people searching for options to cheat, just as in any other game are done where there exist a trading system.
It is abused and cheated, rules are broken as ppl start to go to website auctions selling their items/accounts to highest bidder etc.
So many games are out there trying to fight an impossible fight against such abuse, but what I see those fights are eternal.
So to prevent any kind of use of these, there will not be any trading system in PG.

Thats also a copy cat system from other games, I for me am glad that this game isn't same as so many others out there, also I can tell I stopped play 2 online games cause of the trading system and unfair advantages of cheating people who got much further by breaking rules constantly.

 

[Mered4]

You only have to look at the most popular game ever: RS.
They have had mood swings over the past few years about this issue, since half of the game is trading with other players. For example, the much acclaimed 'wilderness' feature of the game was disabled except on special worlds that had limited trading rights....BECAUSE OF ABUSE. a few months ago they restored the wilderness to most of its former ''glory' and yet people still dont understand... I agree, a trading system or blackmarket would not fit this game, it would allow people to gain veteran status without most of the work that goes with it.
Unlike other games, a vet on PG is STILL a vet, because there is no way to get around the time required to get to Sirius.

 

[Adrana]

Mered4 lol you are so right, I know PG and I know Rs, and I still play PG but not RS, so much cheating, selling accounts, bad language and just name it, and you surely find it on Rs.
I love PG for to not have that option, as I said before, it is the sprung of all abuse and cheating, and unfair advantages to elder player so to say Vets. ^^ :mrorange: ^^

 

[CapnSanta]

Actually, the main reason a trading will never be introduced is simply this : MONEY!!
Yes,money! If trading was part of the game then think of all the green/ bp boosters that would not be needed! Games are meant to be fun so anything that makes it fun should be introduced. PG is not a complicated game nor is it a "serious" one (and don't try to make it one either). So drop the trading wish list... It won't happen!

 

[Uriel]

lol really you guys play RS??? ^^ so do I!!! it's true the old Wilderness was great but it turn out of controle because of abuse.

About trading , RS figured out a good way to prevent abuse by some fixed price and allow a very short differencies. I pop sometimes on this old game, sadly full of farming bot & sold account. But if one day you go alone in the wilderness wachout for Kieranbad1