2 simple questions on sms for GMs & players

[WRAITH1]

(these questions though may seem to coincide with topics discussed maybe in game chat are not so pls treat them as completely new questions and try not to interpret or assume extra content)
GMs pls answer even though u may get the urge to rather not.

#1- am i allowed to do a sm over and over for fun or whtever reason ?

#2- can i do a sm in my own way/time (no matter how illogic or weird it may seem to some) ?

 

[Anonymous]

(these questions though may seem to coincide with topics discussed maybe in game chat are not so pls treat them as completely new questions and try not to interpret or assume extra content)
GMs pls answer even though u may get the urge to rather not.

#1- am i allowed to do a sm over and over for fun or whtever reason ?

I don't see why not. I know there was an issue of pilots exploiting certain SM's for warscore in the past but I for one like doing a few choice sms as I find them a challange.

#2- can i do a sm in my own way/time (no matter how illogic or weird it may seem to some) ?

Again, I don't see why not. Obviously, sm's have their own built-in success mechanism to allow you to complete them and if you find another way of completing an sm (no cheating now though) than more power to you...

Hope this helps and enjoy you're game. Any GM (SGM or higher) that wishes to correct me on the above then please do so.

 

[WRAITH1]

(these questions though may seem to coincide with topics discussed maybe in game chat are not so pls treat them as completely new questions and try not to interpret or assume extra content)
GMs pls answer even though u may get the urge to rather not.

#1- am i allowed to do a sm over and over for fun or whtever reason ?

I don't see why not. I know there was an issue of pilots exploiting certain SM's for warscore in the past but I for one like doing a few choice sms as I find them a challange.

#2- can i do a sm in my own way/time (no matter how illogic or weird it may seem to some) ?

Again, I don't see why not. Obviously, sm's have their own built-in success mechanism to allow you to complete them and if you find another way of completing an sm (no cheating now though) than more power to you...

Hope this helps and enjoy you're game. Any GM (SGM or higher) that wishes to correct me on the above then please do so.

ty for the answers posted i will refrain from commenting on them atm as im curious if others may post answers and which they will b.

 

[Astraeus]

(these questions though may seem to coincide with topics discussed maybe in game chat are not so pls treat them as completely new questions and try not to interpret or assume extra content)
GMs pls answer even though u may get the urge to rather not.

#1- am i allowed to do a sm over and over for fun or whtever reason ?
No. Once am SM is completed it will drop off your Mission List. WMs on the other hand may be repeated over & over again - I stand Corrected on this

#2- can i do a sm in my own way/time (no matter how illogic or weird it may seem to some) ?
You may do an SM or WM any way you like or in any time frame you like. However if the Mission is a Timed Mission, it must be completed within Time Frame given. Also you must follow the mission scripts to be succesful on the Mission. Chances are if you pod during a mission you will have to restart it. Also if you DC or log off, the mission will be aborted

 

[MrDarkman]

Any mission, story or normal mission, can be done unlimited times. Anytime you want...
And Astraeus, storymissions are repeatable also (just need to take them from bottom of the list)...

 

[Adrana]

Lol I think you got the answers, I will reply same, you are allowed to do all missions as many times you like.
If you find a "shortcut" in the mission, you can use it, anyhow if it's a glitch or a bug, you have to report it asap, and not take advantage of such, it is not allowed.

All missions will fail if you log off for 5 min time. I have tested it.

Also if any mission is done in squad, and someone logs off, this one who is logged off will not have the mission completed, just doesn't work that way, so if someone ask for help to do a mission, and has to log off for any reason, and trust on the restant squad to complete the mission for him/her, it will not work.

Also one tiny info to add here, 4 min is the time when a rare bp will remain before it vanish.

 

[WRAITH1]

couldnt find the delete button for this misposted entry.

 

[Anonymous]

(these questions though may seem to coincide with topics discussed maybe in game chat are not so pls treat them as completely new questions and try not to interpret or assume extra content)
GMs pls answer even though u may get the urge to rather not.

#1- am i allowed to do a sm over and over for fun or whtever reason ?

#2- can i do a sm in my own way/time (no matter how illogic or weird it may seem to some) ?

#1 - you are allowed to do am over and over for fun or whatever reason if there is no C.o.C. violation

#2 - you can do sm in your own way/time (no matter how illogical or weird it may seem to some) if there is no C.o.C. violation

 

[WRAITH1]

yes i thank u all for answering,
common logic dictates me to agree and so did all players tht i know ever since beta game.

(these questions though may seem to coincide with topics discussed maybe in game chat are not so pls treat them as completely new questions and try not to interpret or assume extra content)
GMs pls answer even though u may get the urge to rather not.

#1- am i allowed to do a sm over and over for fun or whtever reason ?
No. Once am SM is completed it will drop off your Mission List. WMs on the other hand may be repeated over & over again

#2- can i do a sm in my own way/time (no matter how illogic or weird it may seem to some) ?

astraeus gave a negative answer to my question #1
with only the argument tht the sm isnt on the list which actually is incorrect imo since only after u finish it it goes to the done sms "list" checked as done i believe also u receive a system message explaining u wil receive no rewards for doing it again. (also makes me believe tht the coders intended us players to be able to redo story missions as we like)

another hint would b some aceivements i saw require u to do some sms 50 or even 150 times. but feel free to enlighten me with reasons if u have the time.
if not ill still b puzzled as a GM comes a knocking cause i did something wrong.

 

[Adrana]

#1- am i allowed to do a sm over and over for fun or whtever reason ?
No. Once am SM is completed it will drop off your Mission List. WMs on the other hand may be repeated over & over again

All missions sm or wm's are on the list for the players to see after they been completed.

This way if we help with an sm we already done, we who has the mission done, we are also able to create the squad and retake the mission from the list.
As someone wrote before, just need to scroll down to find them.

All missions can be repeated unlimited times.


Ps. Sorry if you didn't wanted me to post you a reply, as fm's or LFM wasn't on the list you were asking from.
Also forum staff are experienced players ^^ :mrorange: ^^

 

[WRAITH1]

Ps. Sorry if you didn't wanted me to post you a reply, as fm's or LFM wasn't on the list you were asking from.
Also forum staff are experienced players ^^ :mrorange: ^^

no need b sorry extra info or personal interest in some topics never hurt.
im also sry if i left someone out i didnt have room in title and im rather confused by whos who nowadays.

as long as ur human and are interested in the topic all welcome.lol

(this is actually just a part of a more complex topic but i dont wanna step on toes and trying to simplify my requests for info)


huh ?! i just noticed the signatures seem out of sink i see myself as another player completely.
im WRAITH1 server Askone lvl 75
ima discontinue signature usage til its fixed maybe.

 

[passenger8]

-in the old days a mission would fail if you changed to another ship. (same system ofcourse) -i don´t know if it´s still like that, and why? (i havent tried that for a long time)

 

[WRAITH1]

-in the old days a mission would fail if you changed to another ship. (same system ofcourse) -i don´t know if it´s still like that, and why? (i havent tried that for a long time)

not exactly the threads topic but fyi i switched to my engi mid an escort sm to help out the sq and as i remember no failing.(eventhough engi wasnt ready only had generic golds on it i immediately bought cheap stuff and saved the sm.lol)
and btw i was there in the old days and i dont remember the fact u mentioned about switching ships and failed sms but not sure if i attempted switching or was just in hangar cause podded.

 

[ridoi]

you need to do all the sms, and the with missions in PM, for achievement, you need to do all SM in sq for achievement, so ofc you can repeat them. No need to ask anyone for how you like to enjoy the game, if it's allowed ofc xD

 

[WRAITH1]

you need to do all the sms, and the with missions in PM, for achievement, you need to do all SM in sq for achievement, so ofc you can repeat them. No need to ask anyone for how you like to enjoy the game, if it's allowed ofc xD

well if i would have no need to ask, i wouldnt,
but believe me when a GM private chats u and tell u ur not allowed to do some things in game tht all do ever since beta game ull b as confused as i am and start asking basic simple questions as i did .(as u have maybe observed still the answer wasnt unanimous)

if u want more examples of weird discrepancies just ask around ur fellow players i can only say imo these are at least a bit confusing:
#1 noob usage prohibition (in no other game i ve played is tht classified as offensive)
# 2 griefing (loose interpretation by some means: u cant upset a fellow player by playing the game better than him/her)
#3 exploiting (also loose interpretation may mean not allowed to redo sms and/or not allowed to do it as u like in ur own time or just fool around with sm npcs cause ur bored; mind u theres no abusing of any software flaw to gain advantage as i know the gaming exploit definition is)

i dont blame anyone here i just want info cause as u may imagine a player may easyly get confused by such sometimes illogic or even contradictionary comments and if he/she as player usually respects game guidelines he usually tries to follow a Moderators instructions.
like i said im trying not to blow this subject out of proportions but its hard to describe in few simple words since the subject is more complex.

basic idea i wanna keep playing my quiet relaxing game like everyone else tht wishes so and not need look over my shoulder each move i make cause thts just silly. (and if i may add may really classify as "griefing" if sustained. )
some dont even bother with posting stuff like this they do their thing no matter the consequences or move on to other games. my flaw is i care, not too much maybe but just enough (or i may just like to practice english and typing)

some seem forget this is a game and only pixels on screen which should imo have with priority entertainment values.

 

[Adrana]

if u want more examples of weird discrepancies just ask around ur fellow players i can only say imo these are at least a bit confusing:
#1 noob usage prohibition (in no other game i ve played is tht classified as offensive)
Actually this is the first game where I enjoy where ppl cannot offend and insult others calling them noobs in a bad way.
It is classified offensive when written in an offensive context, eg. insulting or other such way.

# 2 griefing (loose interpretation by some means: u cant upset a fellow player by playing the game better than him/her)
Grieving depend also what way it is done, there has been explanations of it here at the forum.
Players cannot just accuse anyone for harassment if they like so, it all depend in which way it is done, and is there proof of such.

#3 exploiting (also loose interpretation may mean not allowed to redo sms and/or not allowed to do it as u like in ur own time or just fool around with sm npcs cause ur bored; mind u theres no abusing of any software flaw to gain advantage as i know the gaming exploit definition is)
Exploiting means, taking continuous advantage of game bugs or glitches, and not report them, by so gaining advantages what other players doesn't have by honest gameplay.
Has nothing to do with repeating any missions and finding tricks to do them easier, that is also called gaming skill

-in the old days a mission would fail if you changed to another ship. (same system of course) -i don´t know if it´s still like that, and why? (i havent tried that for a long time)
In old days, there has never been any issue with missions failing cause of changing ship in the middle of a mission, your memory is playing tricks with you now
There are no issues in these days either by changing ship, many times when I have helped in sm's and the one doing it get pod, I go hangar to change to engineer for to mat.
There is no issues with it.

 

[WRAITH1]

@ Adrana
(too lazy to use quote.lol)

u seem to have a logical nature about u arguing some points with rather sound facts but as for my examples they are what i have actually encountered myself ingame .im not gonna name GMs or situations as i dont wanna like i said blame anyone id like to voice(type) some concerns/opinions as long as its allowed.
im aware tht most rules are based on specific situations and since humans are involved in sorting some interpretation happens for each a bit differen.

-example #1 i know what u mean by context and trying to offend others by calling them noobs but i find tht a harmless vent players can use rather than other more agressive language and all online games ahave accepted it as such. if u want u can insult ppl through context using most non ofensive words but i wouldnt go as far as prohibit 1/2 an english vocabulary cause of tht.

-example #2 i had a player complain to a gm cause i waqs defending myself against his ingame agression by tactics (some for example ca b if ur a tank against a stealing sniper to call mantis for help to shoo the thief away)
now they say stealing is allowed but using other tactics may cause "grief" for the other and not permitted

-example #3 was rather recent a gm private chatted me asking me wht im doing with sm npcs why am i not taking them to target cause its #4 of coc exploiting ; he/she even went as far as classify doing some sms to get gold bps as rule breaking
(like i said i know wht exploiting defines and fooling around with sm npcs isnt an exploit as i know even the software guards against such for example u dont seem to get harv drops using those and u dont see drops if u dont shoot urself as i know)

so u may argue "gaming skill" (talented gameplay) all u want but if a GM suggests ur penalized (or maybe nowadays they can even do it directly).....

this isnt first game ive played/tested (and wont b the last) and i obide by written and unwritten(common sense) rules and wht the mods dictate just wish they would make up their minds and stop splitting hairs and interpreting rules so unusual sometimes so i can play more and type less(even though i enjoy typing more sometimes than the game itself as u see by the novels im typing now.lol)

btw wht would u do in my place if u as simple player even asked on forums and most said its ok to redo sms and one said no?
flip a coin??!

 

[Astraeus]

I will stand Corrected on the SM repeat issue - I have verified on my Pilot that they can be repeated but No Rewards will be paid

 

[WRAITH1]

I will stand Corrected on the SM repeat issue - I have verified on my Pilot that they can be repeated but No Rewards will be paid

ok now were a step forward
Q #1 get and unanimous yes as answer so far
Q #2 also (minus one answer missing from Astraeus )

but then another very important Q #3 arises y am i accused of wrong doings ingame for repeating an sm and fiddling with it as i want/like (cause of boredom of course)?

i personally find it ok even using sm npcs for help fight mantis (which many do also) squashing the count 50x or the queen 150x if one so desires or taking an sm to get gold bpps or use dragging mantis to defend urself from thieves and im ok with rules permitting others to call me noob but seems some allways disagree.

imo diversity and creativity in finding fun things to do ingame (which its rather lacking at a certain point) and using existing game parameters should b rather incouraged not squashed by overeagerly applying the rules.

on this topic short story from waay bk in the old days (after beta game) a player bored cause maxed out and done all ther was then to do and liked the pvp system then, turned to offering to take bounties on players disliked by other players (discreetly of course and with no rewards but the fun in attempting to fulfill the task) ......
maybe some remember maybe not its not important just see no harm in creating fun things to do within game parameters.

 

[ridoi]

SM: Some SM unit's/npc might help you defeat another mantis/npc inside the SM or outside the SM.
Some sm allow you to have a great number of mantis so you could defeat them...