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Daniah

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Okay, I understand why the story missions have ship and tech level restrictions and I fully support these.

However, I'm wondering why the white missions got the same restrictions. After all, since these use Mantis that aren't mission-specific, unlike stories with pre-programmed Mantis, these Mantis can be shot at by anyone.

So, this means you can still get help from a higher level player, to kill the Mantis you need after you shot it just once. You'll still get the mission complete, the bp if it's a tech hunt, and the cry for completing the mission.

The restrictiosn have been implemented to keep people from being rushed through the game in a matter of days, with no effort at all.
There's no point in rushing anyone through white missions though, because they'll still get the bp if they only join a squadron with higher level ships and just grind for the tech he needs, without starting a white mission. And if they dó find a bp which they aren't supposed to have already, it'd still be useless since the bp itself is already level restricted.

By implementing the level restrictions to white as well, you've robbed people of the possibility to skip a few white missions, proceed with the story and come back later with a higher system's tech, to wrap up what they had skipped without having to bother anyone else for elp. I know many people did this and I did it myself.

In short: keep the story and tech restrictions for story missions, but remove them for white missions, since those are supposed to be optional and also because the restrictions are useless since they can be circumvented way too easily.
 

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I can't be bothered reading all that lol. but i do agree white missions should not have a level requirement.
 

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I dont like restrictions, and i dont understand why people asking for restrictions all the time :(
 

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It may not always be possible to do all the white missions, before going to the next system or within certain lvls, so I'd vote to junk the restrictions too.
 
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Adrana

The restriction is right imo, but agreed on what Daniah says, it should not reach the Standard missions as those are optional to do.

Another thing I would had loved to was the level restriction for to enter in a new system, that would avoid too low level players to reach the new systems too fast without any experience of playing the game.
The allowed ship should only be permitted to be one from the previous system.
Example, Gemini ship the lowest to enter Mizar etc.
This is my opinion.
 

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I think its fine as it is. Too many restriction are not good. The only thing now that can boost someone through a mission are outside engs, but all this takes up peoples time so if they wish to do it I say let them.
 

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making white missions only do-able in same system ship's, this was a plan to stop the Hypers wasn't it, well you deployed it too late!!! :mrgreen:
 

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Wait a minute... what if a guy participates, for example on a invasion on Lustra, where he gets to meet rank 33 mantis. Happily he flies into the hangar, he just got a nice little fusion tempest blaster, he install it on his ship and got just the right cry amount. Finally, he can beat that stupid Vicius the mutilator. What happens? He can not do it, and so he can not unlock gemini, he has no cry left, and so, he has to buy a lousy blaster, he gets very dissapointed, and shortly later, he leaves for another game and never comes back. :cry:
 

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Just wanted to put my 2 cents worth on this issue with the white missions and the story missions restrictions. There story missions shouldn't be retricted by who helps you, but by levels, which would slow the rushing through the game more effectively. Getting help with someone from the same system as you with the the right ship, and on the same mission as you, is very hard. So if story mission require you to have a certain level to be able to start it, maybe makes more sense then, saying that this guy cant help you because he is in sol and his ship is too powerful ... No?
 

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i agree, white missions, bp missions should be able to all do in any level/tech.
 

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Yes, I also agree! WHO cares if someone fast tracks another player through the game?? If they want to spoil all the fun for themselves then so what!?!

You have put in place bp rank limits and that ought to be enough. This forces players to at least level up to get to use better bps.

Personally, I always use the NEXT systems ships and equipment to do the previous systems white mission due to it being easier to do. If a player forgoes the attempts at white missions while going through that system then so what?? White missions I find very boring to do and as far as greens from them go : you joking!! I can collect greens much faster and with more efficiency than getting them through white missions!! There is no real reward except the bp (only the top bps are any good and it is what we ALL go for as fast/soon as we can don't we?), and green.

Now that it (white missions), is system specific gear only I won't even BOTHER to do the TIME WASTING missions! Using the NEXT systems equipment saves me TIME and now you are forcing me to take MORE time to get a few greens? You joking right?

Bad move! Let ANY levels/equipment etc help on any system ... after all I earned the ships to use anywhere!! Stop making ridiculous playing rules just to "slow players down"! It's the players choice HOW they want to play and if that means fast and easy then SO WHAT!??! Boredom reaches them sooner!

Let us all use our ships/equipment how we want!
 

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Have to say santa, you've hit the nail on the head there

By the way, still no GGB :LOL:
 

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Adrana said:
The restriction is right imo, but agreed on what Daniah says, it should not reach the Standard missions as those are optional to do.

Another thing I would had loved to was the level restriction for to enter in a new system, that would avoid too low level players to reach the new systems too fast without any experience of playing the game.
The allowed ship should only be permitted to be one from the previous system.
Example, Gemini ship the lowest to enter Mizar etc.
This is my opinion.
NOOOOOOO!!! Then I can't bring my newly found rare Vega ship to Baumar and fly it up to the lvl39 e-field to show my friends!! I did, I did.

Chas88
 

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There you go again........ Shoulding this and shoulding that!!

I tell you - restrictions of this nature are rediculous! Why do I say this with such confidence?? Simple: go ask a level44 or less pilot how they are going with their mars/moon missions!! LOL!! I will tell you!! They are wishing they didn't get so much help down on lower levels!! HA HA HA HO HO HO!!!!!!!! :mrgreen:
 

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Yeah I agree about this too.White missions are very hard and boring to do with the system ship(and as santa said reward is too small).Atm my lower system ship have no equipment.Im planning to equip them after I finish sol and get a lvl 60 ship.This means I cant do mizar or other system whites (they are one of the best ways to get cry for me).

But I agree with story missions being restricted.Some clans just do the missions for their members.While they are sitting in orbit, their miss is being done for them.This is kind of cheat for me because these ppl just get free cry and xp without doing anything.Why should this happen?I have done most of my missions alone and done a very hard work on them while others just sit in orbit.
For me this is the best way to slow ppl.

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DarkLordADP
 

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Maybe you can make 3 kind of mission.....
Story mission:
The same as now but without the ability to make thoses missions in squad. Like this, everyone have to do there own story mission alone.
White mission:
The same as now too with no restriction of ship lvl or bp lvl... maybe a smaller reward
Squad mission:
And a new kind of optional mission that we have to do in squad for get a big reward of cry or an other kind of reward....

It's just an idea to improve....
 

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I have just tried to finish my white missions, but in every system now, I can't land and do white missions, in a sol ship. This is not right. SS is forcing us players to waste crystal to Re-buy ships from those systems and levels to finish white missions, which is exactly the opposite of what players need. Players finish white missions to gain extra cry, and now that option has been taken away from us. With the change of cry and now this it is even harder to gain crystal. This needs to be changed. There are going to be many players, me included who will not finish white missions, because it's not worth the cry reward to go back and re-buy those ships. Needs to be completely rethought!
 

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Wel you have a point but :
Almost every player have sq ships with best possible eqt (1 for everey system) .
so no wasr of C at all.
And to be true i like going back to Vega in my little Tank lol .
 
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