This game got messed when sol came out WHY?!?!?!

[Galactic]

This game was much better in 2009 when you could by a bp when you find it without having to be a certain rank, you could help players with high ranked ships, bp drop rates were good, ships were half the prices they are now apart from parsec now its "MESSED UP" why?

 

[Ahsoka]

i feel the same way m8, especialy with the useless Buddie Cap

 

[defacto]

´´help players´´

as in, giving a rank 12 in AnIn 1300 an Ion Blaze blaster?

 

[Galactic]

as in help them do missions in a high rank ship while they are in low rank ship

 

[Ahsoka]

u got to think about it, the game is messed up to the point were its not fun anymore

 

[Adrana]

As for drag them through system by system while they take it easy, and the higher rank pilot/ship do the most work, fast and efficient, but makes lazy players who doesn't have any idea, nor the skill of how to really play this game, they don't get any experience of game play, and the missions are rushed through.

It works perfectly well with most players using the proper ships and tech for to help other lower users.

It has brought the new and old community together more than ever in the old times.
There was a big rift between these two.

 

[retro]

As for drag them through system by system while they take it easy, and the higher rank pilot/ship do the most work, fast and efficient, but makes lazy players who doesn't have any idea, nor the skill of how to really play this game, they don't get any experience of game play, and the missions are rushed through.

It works perfectly well with most players using the proper ships and tech for to help other lower users.

It has brought the new and old community together more than ever in the old times.
There was a big rift between these two.

it worked well before it was all changed as well, dont you think its upto the players if they want to be dragged through the systems and be lazy instead of bein dictated too, even you adrana had help off an higher lvl pilot with a higher lvl ship back in the day, we all did. By all means put level limits on tech but not on missions, so what if you get someone to sol and they are only level 24 it wont be any fun for them cos they wont lost 1 min without sol tech and ship, stop with all the stupid limits, look at the game 6 months ago and look at it now and step back and look at all the new rules that restrict us, you are chocking the game making it no fun, the only reason to put the mission level limits is to slow players down so ss can catch up but in slowing players down you are talking the fun out the game and making this game a grind fest, this game was never made to be a grind fest it was made to be quick easy playing fun and as far as i can see ss have taken all them things away, ss stop being stubbon stop cuttin your nose off to spite your face and listen to the players, dont see it as you loosing a war or giving in to players and making you feeling weak cos that the impression you give, look at it as we are giving the players what they want so they might spend more money, one of the really fun things to do in this game was to go help lower level player with your powerful ship, wise up ss and smell the roses before they wilt and die

 

[Delloda]

The limits were to stop powerleveling.. you guys all moaned and moaned and moaned to make us do it.

 

[DivineWind]

Mmmm...Retro, do you not mean go and show off to a lower level player with your powerful ship? Delloda is right, there was a massive amount of complaining due to people power-levelling. Given that Draconis will not be out for some time why not spend some of the cry you are accruing and by an engineer ship for each system. Then you can actually help these lower level players improve their skills while impressing them with your prowess as a senior pilot. In my opinion i think the game has steadily improved since Mizar (not withstanding the bugs etc which are an inherent part of online gaming). The majority of new players seem content to progress at their own pace and in the main seem unaware that in the past it was "easier" to progress, unless they are told differently.
There will always be those players who don't have the patience to persevere as in life. They will be the same type as those who buy a console game and choose easy mode, then two days later want a new game because they have completed it.

 

[SnowRaven]

I say Keep the restrictions on Tech and Story Missions... but take it out of the White Missions, a low level player isnt going to advance to higher systems just from White Missions are they

 

[retro]

Mmmm...Retro, do you not mean go and show off to a lower level player with your powerful ship? Delloda is right, there was a massive amount of complaining due to people power-levelling. Given that Draconis will not be out for some time why not spend some of the cry you are accruing and by an engineer ship for each system. Then you can actually help these lower level players improve their skills while impressing them with your prowess as a senior pilot. In my opinion i think the game has steadily improved since Mizar (not withstanding the bugs etc which are an inherent part of online gaming). The majority of new players seem content to progress at their own pace and in the main seem unaware that in the past it was "easier" to progress, unless they are told differently.
There will always be those players who don't have the patience to persevere as in life. They will be the same type as those who buy a console game and choose easy mode, then two days later want a new game because they have completed it.

players dont get power leveled by doing missions they get power leveled by getting a higher level player in squad and getting them to do all the work which still happens so the level limits on missions have not stopped power level at all

 

[Delloda]

players don't get power leveled by doing missions they get power leveled by getting a higher level player in squad and getting them to do all the work which still happens so the level limits on missions have not stopped power level at all

Players were getting power leveled from story missions to get to sol quickly so they can get massive xp from sol mantis to level up fast. The was a squadding bug after allowed them to still do it but that has been closed. Now if a high level player wants to power level someone it can still be done but he will have to use the system ships rather than blast through with sol ships.

 

[retro]

you dont have to use the same system ship i an power level someone in my sol ship all iv got to do is be in the same squad and kill the highest level mantis on that planets, i helpped a clan mate get 6 levels in 20mins on lusta

 

[ElectroM]

True as retro said, but with sol ship, you get like REALLY low xp, using system ship is better.

 

[Adrana]

True as retro said, but with sol ship, you get like REALLY low xp, using system ship is better.

You don't get xp at all with higher level ship at lower systems, you get xp from mantis 8 ranks lower only.
So even if you will take a system ship eg. at Lustra, you will not get any xp.
Xp does not count with what ship you use, it counts the player rank for the xp.

Way back Delloda post an apply to higher rank players to help out massive new amounts of players,
retro the request was not that you will go and do the missions for them, not even to help them with any missions, not for to powerlevel them, but to instruct them, to answer any questions they have, and to give a good guidance for them to learn to play this game.

Everyone was moaning as Delloda said after the big banhammer with the cheaters way back,
every honest player was furious cause most of them return to the game with a new account, what was not against the rules, and their clanmates drag them through system by system in a matter of days and you could see rank 7 players sitting at the orbit of Mizar, and even at Earth rank 12 players.

This brought a huge anger to all other players and hate was rising.
Almost every honest player was raging against this here at the forum demanding regulations and restrictions so people could not be dragged through systems, and be power leveled.

If I remember right retro you were very actively involved in that protesting.

 

[ElectroM]

OH, ok thank you !

 

[retro]

True as retro said, but with sol ship, you get like REALLY low xp, using system ship is better.

You don't get xp at all with higher level ship at lower systems, you get xp from mantis 8 ranks lower only.
So even if you will take a system ship eg. at Lustra, you will not get any xp.
Xp does not count with what ship you use, it counts the player rank for the xp.

Way back Delloda post an apply to higher rank players to help out massive new amounts of players,
retro the request was not that you will go and do the missions for them, not even to help them with any missions, not for to powerlevel them, but to instruct them, to answer any questions they have, and to give a good guidance for them to learn to play this game.

Everyone was moaning as Delloda said after the big banhammer with the cheaters way back,
every honest player was furious cause most of them return to the game with a new account, what was not against the rules, and their clanmates drag them through system by system in a matter of days and you could see rank 7 players sitting at the orbit of Mizar, and even at Earth rank 12 players.

This brought a huge anger to all other players and hate was rising.
Almost every honest player was raging against this here at the forum demanding regulations and restrictions so people could not be dragged through systems, and be power leveled.

If I remember right retro you were very actively involved in that protesting.

no i didnt protect at all about them comming back and power leveled at all, what i said was they have been punnished so if they want to come back and start again then thats upto them, i have no problem with people bein power leveld at all and i dont class bein power leveled as cheating, and i know i dont get any exp on lustra but the lower level player thats in my squad does, so if im killing level 28 harviaters with 1 shot and iv got a level 20 im my squad they are goin to level very fast, i didnt help every low level in vega rank up only clan members, plus i did help out in vega i used 1.2 million bought and paid for e helping out with bp finding and showing noobs all around the vega system and answering questions i lived in vega for about a month

 

[Astraeus]

True as retro said, but with sol ship, you get like REALLY low xp, using system ship is better.

You don't get xp at all with higher level ship at lower systems, you get xp from mantis 8 ranks lower only.
So even if you will take a system ship eg. at Lustra, you will not get any xp.
Xp does not count with what ship you use, it counts the player rank for the xp.

Way back Delloda post an apply to higher rank players to help out massive new amounts of players,
retro the request was not that you will go and do the missions for them, not even to help them with any missions, not for to powerlevel them, but to instruct them, to answer any questions they have, and to give a good guidance for them to learn to play this game.

Everyone was moaning as Delloda said after the big banhammer with the cheaters way back,
every honest player was furious cause most of them return to the game with a new account, what was not against the rules, and their clanmates drag them through system by system in a matter of days and you could see rank 7 players sitting at the orbit of Mizar, and even at Earth rank 12 players.

This brought a huge anger to all other players and hate was rising.
Almost every honest player was raging against this here at the forum demanding regulations and restrictions so people could not be dragged through systems, and be power leveled.

If I remember right retro you were very actively involved in that protesting.

no i didnt protect at all about them comming back and power leveled at all, what i said was they have been punnished so if they want to come back and start again then thats upto them, i have no problem with people bein power leveld at all and i dont class bein power leveled as cheating, and i know i dont get any exp on lustra but the lower level player thats in my squad does, so if im killing level 28 harviaters with 1 shot and iv got a level 20 im my squad they are goin to level very fast

The biggest problem with power leveling in any MMO is the ones being Power Leveled dont get to learn the mechanics of the Game. They end up expecting it all to be handed to them on a Silver Platter & do nothing but whine when they cant do something for themselves as well as always rely on other Players to "HELP" them (In essence do everything for them) so they can get the Rewards. It is one thing to Help a Player thru a tough situation, But Power-Leveling is against the "Code-of-Play" for True Players

 

[nebulaman]

if theres one thing ive learnt in my year of playing this game, and watching all the changes that have happened, its that patience and perserverance are absolutely vital. if a low level player gets help from powerful friends in all the missions, they will not learn how to deal with defeat in the later systems when they are less likely to be helped. its like real life miniturized: we fall so we can learn to pick ourselves up. if we are gently carried through the game to the point where we are in a sol ship with practically no experiance or know how of how the game works, we will become frustrated and probably give up at how hard it is.

however, if we dont have such massive help, if we learn to gradually think for ourselves in the game and get more and more skilled, in my opinion its a far more satisfying way of playing. so for once, i agree with the changes made to this fantastic game by splitscreen. ^^

 

[Tyrannus]

if theres one thing ive learnt in my year of playing this game, and watching all the changes that have happened, its that patience and perserverance are absolutely vital. if a low level player gets help from powerful friends in all the missions, they will not learn how to deal with defeat in the later systems when they are less likely to be helped. its like real life miniturized: we fall so we can learn to pick ourselves up. if we are gently carried through the game to the point where we are in a sol ship with practically no experiance or know how of how the game works, we will become frustrated and probably give up at how hard it is.

however, if we dont have such massive help, if we learn to gradually think for ourselves in the game and get more and more skilled, in my opinion its a far more satisfying way of playing. so for once, i agree with the changes made to this fantastic game by splitscreen. ^^

Yeah nebulaman youve watched alot of changes like the time i battled galactic in gemini storms at the good old vega 2 when you was a noob