Taking the game from Mantis shooter game to Pirate Game

[ElectroM]

A hole new concept of Pirate Mode:

Vega System:

Players in Vega system owning Vega ships cannot shoot each others on all planets unless they are in Pirate Mode, Aurora (Last Vega Story Planet) is a "All reds" planet, where everyone is able to shoot anyone, but everyone Must be in a Vega Ship


Antares System:

Players in Antares System owning Antares ships cannot shoot each others on Terasa, but they can on Lustra, in Terasa they both must be in Pirate Mode to PvP, Vega ships cannot be shot in Antares System, unless Pirate Mode is enabled

Gemini System:

Players in Gemini System owning Gemini ships cannot shoot each others on Prosperous, Commerce Central, however it's a All reds planet for Technatoria, Antares Ships cannot be shot in Gemini unless Pirate Mode is enable EVEN in All reds planets

Mizar System:

Players in Mizar System owning Mizar Ships cannot shoot each others on Baumar, however Molikar is All reds planet, Gemini ships cannot be shot in Mizar unless Pirate Mode is Enabled

Sol System:

Players in Sol System owning Sol ships cannot shoot each others on Mars or Moon, however Earth is a All reds planet, Mizar ships cannot be shot in Sol unless Pirate Mode is Enabled

Due to having All Reds planet, lots of cry can be lost, so I suggest on all "Pirate Mode must be required to shoot.. Planets" regular Cry Death Drop, however you only lose 1/4 of the cry you were supposed to lose in All Reds planets meaning if you died 4 times, it's like you died once on all other planets, and in none reds All planets and you succeeded to kill a player in Pirate Mode, this should be considered as you have defeated a true pirate and should gain XP! So this could be a good deal! Hunting Pirates in None Reds All planets XD but please not that if you got killed by a Mantis you will get a normal Death Cry Drop, it's only where you were attacked by a Pilot and died

I think this idea is well balanced and making it fair/piracy and lots of fun anywhere

 

[defacto]

Not... more... RESTRICTIONS!

 

[xamphibiosx]

This looks a bit like CommanderCody's idea for an after mantis PG.

 

[CommanderCody]

xamphibiosx this is NOT at ALL my idea. I do NOT like this idea. Why? Because the current systems should be a Training Ground for a PG2/Fraction Wars Era/Post Dominate NPC or Mantis Universe. If everyone on certain planets was required to turn PM I bet alot of folks would quick because they cant get the SM's done cause its WWIII on the planet.

My idea was a Universe after the Mantis Wars that you can get to Via like a wormhole or something that is PvP centered with is Story Missions and all.

My vote for this idea is NO.

 

[xamphibiosx]

xamphibiosx this is NOT at ALL my idea. I do NOT like this idea. Why? Because the current systems should be a Training Ground for a PG2/Fraction Wars Era/Post Dominate NPC or Mantis Universe. If everyone on certain planets was required to turn PM I bet alot of folks would quick because they cant get the SM's done cause its WWIII on the planet.

My idea was a Universe after the Mantis Wars that you can get to Via like a wormhole or something that is PvP centered with is Story Missions and all.

My vote for this idea is NO.

Yeah, i have read it, i know what you mean, thats why i also say no

 

[CommanderCody]

Btw remeber Vega 3 is usally opened every week, what I would go for is a V3 like planet in every system with Fights going on every day, that I would definatly go for.

 

[SpaceAdmiral]

Sooo....
some examples:
player goes to aurora for the first time in his new lyris tech AnIn-2000 series
Random n00b(s)(probably already out of vega) in his/her/their full rare/top non-rare tech AnIn-2000(s) or AnIn-X Tank(s) with armor pods player on landing

player in his new Antares Ship with Terasa tech drops in on Lustra
like wise more n00bs with rares or tops will pod him before he could hope of getting a bp

Gemini is a little different as alot of tech can be found in CC and Prosp, but still can be considered same

Mizar- same
Sol- same

whats worse is that with forced PM, what stops high ranks from going down and go on podding sprees?
what stops jerks from going to aurora/lustra/tech/molikar and podding lower ranks left and right?
Now imagine a squad, or clan of people who have reached high ranks and think its funny to conquest planets by blockading them from others

every landing will be a hot drop, with high ranks pointing rare blasters at you. You need a whole bunch of escorts to even dream of uplifting the blockade and even then you will die from any stray enemy aggrobombs or rockets

not many high ranks are like this, but there are alot of mean bullies who push others around. Blockades will be worst at vega and antares, gemini and mizar will have less because many bullies don't graduate past gemini, but some still do.

finally, how many high ranks are gonna "waste time" trying to hot drop a few newbs to their planets? Not many. Especially if you need a large group to hot drop the newbs.

 

[ElectroM]

SpaceAdmiral, my idea restrict mizar ships to kill gemini ships, antares ships to kill vega ships, in the appropriate systems, I trying to stop the: Hey.. why you shot me, you got better ship than mine.. and that will go to a hole arguement between the people, and with my idea, it can be stopped, because antares ships cannot shoot vega ships in vega at all, even in pirate mode, however, vega ships CAN be shot in antares IF they were in pirate mode, and then that vega ship can say: why you shot me, I am less powerful than you, pick on someone as strong as you.. because he will get response: and what you doing red in a system that is further strong than your ship,.. that new antares comer with Vega ships, then, cannot say anything..

whats worse is that with forced PM, what stops high ranks from going down and go on podding sprees?
what stops jerks from going to aurora/lustra/tech/molikar and podding lower ranks left and right?

Quoting from my topic:

Players in Vega system owning Vega ships cannot shoot each others on all planets unless they are in Pirate Mode, Aurora (Last Vega Story Planet) is a "All reds" planet, where everyone is able to shoot anyone, but everyone Must be in a Vega Ship

@ Commander Cody

xamphibiosx this is NOT at ALL my idea. I do NOT like this idea. Why? Because the current systems should be a Training Ground for a PG2/Fraction Wars Era/Post Dominate NPC or Mantis Universe. If everyone on certain planets was required to turn PM I bet alot of folks would quick because they cant get the SM's done cause its WWIII on the planet.

My idea was a Universe after the Mantis Wars that you can get to Via like a wormhole or something that is PvP centered with is Story Missions and all.

My vote for this idea is NO.

Your idea is: Hey.. let's have a prepared, organised battle, where everything is fair.. bla bla bla.. I am too afraid to be shot.. well my friend, it's a PIRATE game..

And 2nd, if you want to do Story Missions, get a squad, get your friends, make some good friends, and go and do your Sm,.. Well this game at this moment isn't pirate at all, unless you're in a pirate mode, and I don't think people will keep shooting at everyone, remember that lots of people will be busy doing SMs, and I don't think a sol player will get his Vega full rared ship to kill people on Vega, and waste time.. Lame

I am trying to make game FAIR, with the ships restrictions, and also, and again, a Pirate Game!

 

[Wolfsbane.]

Maybe if pirate mode had different features added, therefore making it more of a pirate game without annoying the heck out of a LOT of people. For example, if in pirate mode, having pirate missions, such as "pod five pirates for a reward", or "survive for ten minutes in pirate mode". Or something like that.

 

[CommanderCody]

ElectroM, do you not have ANY idea how the lower 4 Systems are anymore? Its 100% No Help Garenteer down there. This is sucide for poor noobs and they all will get moped up every stinking time a Big Boy comes down from the high systems. Its already hard enough for folks to get through the systems, dont make it harder.

Btw kids will start using PM alot more on sundays anyways thanks to Red Sunday/No Death Cryo Drop

 

[defacto]

SpaceAdmiral, my idea restrict mizar ships to kill gemini ships, antares ships to kill vega ships, in the appropriate systems, I trying to stop the: Hey.. why you shot me, you got better ship than mine.. and that will go to a hole arguement between the people, and with my idea, it can be stopped, because antares ships cannot shoot vega ships in vega at all, even in pirate mode, however, vega ships CAN be shot in antares IF they were in pirate mode, and then that vega ship can say: why you shot me, I am less powerful than you, pick on someone as strong as you.. because he will get response: and what you doing red in a system that is further strong than your ship,.. that new antares comer with Vega ships, then, cannot say anything..

whats worse is that with forced PM, what stops high ranks from going down and go on podding sprees?
what stops jerks from going to aurora/lustra/tech/molikar and podding lower ranks left and right?

Quoting from my topic:

Players in Vega system owning Vega ships cannot shoot each others on all planets unless they are in Pirate Mode, Aurora (Last Vega Story Planet) is a "All reds" planet, where everyone is able to shoot anyone, but everyone Must be in a Vega Ship

@ Commander Cody

xamphibiosx this is NOT at ALL my idea. I do NOT like this idea. Why? Because the current systems should be a Training Ground for a PG2/Fraction Wars Era/Post Dominate NPC or Mantis Universe. If everyone on certain planets was required to turn PM I bet alot of folks would quick because they cant get the SM's done cause its WWIII on the planet.

My idea was a Universe after the Mantis Wars that you can get to Via like a wormhole or something that is PvP centered with is Story Missions and all.

My vote for this idea is NO.

Your idea is: Hey.. let's have a prepared, organised battle, where everything is fair.. bla bla bla.. I am too afraid to be shot.. well my friend, it's a PIRATE game..

And 2nd, if you want to do Story Missions, get a squad, get your friends, make some good friends, and go and do your Sm,.. Well this game at this moment isn't pirate at all, unless you're in a pirate mode, and I don't think people will keep shooting at everyone, remember that lots of people will be busy doing SMs, and I don't think a sol player will get his Vega full rared ship to kill people on Vega, and waste time.. Lame

I am trying to make game FAIR, with the ships restrictions, and also, and again, a Pirate Game!

If it now is a pirate game, why have even more restrictions deciding where to be allowed to haave pm, and who to shoot, etc.

 

[CommanderCody]

Aye, we already got Vega 3, Conquests, and Red Sunday.

 

[ElectroM]

Why would you call it hard?! It's only dam 6 planets where you can be shot without pirate mode, and since it's ONLY by people with same class ships as yours, what you moaning about? Unless you're too chicken to have a challenege on 1 DAM PLANET OF A HOLE SYSTEM.. You better then get some courage!

@ Pbhuh, can't you see how many moaning in this thread of "boohoo people will kills us in All reds planet, boohoo no more restrictions, ..?! Having 1 .. just 1.. I repeat.. 1!.. 1 !!!! Planet in each system.. SYSTEM, can't be so challenging! It's only 1 story planet, why not?! You got all other planets to do just the way it is now, but only 1 .. 1 planet is different, where is challenging, and you refusing it

I tell you why you refuse it: Because you too afraid and a "chicken" to go on a planet where you can be shot by anyone but also try to accomplish a mission!

Missions in this game are so : 1, 2, 3 steps, where they should be "suprises" during missions, like you doing timed mission with your friend on All reds planet, and suddenly some guy pops out and shoots you, your friend will volonteer to kill him while other escape to continue story planet!

That will be fun

 

[CommanderCody]

Btw, people do know how to turn PM on themselves Electro, you dont need to force them to turn it on and yea its the 6 toughest planets in each system, your turning already story hard missions into I-give-up story missions. People have the right to choose dude, also when ur doing a SM the last thing u want is to be podded so u have to start it all over.

We already have enough trouble with folks on Solaria quitting in the lower systems, we dont need more.

 

[ElectroM]

This game AGAIN! is a PIRATE game, that means we ALL are pirate here, it's not logic to CHOOSE when to be a pirate by an option and 30 seconds later, you're no longer a pirate?!

So what it's the 6 toughest planet? Aren't you up to a challenge? You just don't like my idea, because you like the "easy way" of anything..

No one is forcing those people to quit, and who cares if they did.. People come and go, and if those people quit because troubles on "lower" systems, I feel sorry for their pathetic mind..

Go play a Barbies game if you hate to be on ONLY 6 planets out of over 20, to be a REAL pirate, in a PIRATE game..

And, DUDE, people can't CHOOSE and NOT CHOOSE WHEN to be a pirate in a PIRATE game..

I bet your the one that say: Hey! don't steal my cry.. (I was one but now NO!)
You just too chicken to deal with the OBJECT of this game which is PIRATE way!

You can call people immature or newb if they steal, well wake up! You're the newb! (If you do..) The other guy that stealing is PLAYING the game as it is supposed to be played, you can't ORDER a PIRATE what to do and what not to do!

Honestly, I think you shiver when you hear: All Reds planet, because you're too afraid to go there, and actually BE A PIRATE...

 

[Sinned]

Electrom, with all the respect, I have to say no to your idea.

The reason I play pirate galaxy is because you can choose if u want to fight or no and that makes PG a great game.You can choose yourself how you will play the game.You can be a pirate (who always stays in red) or a normal guy, who prefers to hunt cry and do missions

No im not a chicken, but I wouldnt like to be ganged by a group of players in a higher system.That just turns PG into a DO, u should know what it is.

Btw its just a name, there is no description that says this game is a pirate game.Its just the name that was created long time ago when the game was still being tested.

Who said the character you play is a pirate.You start as a pirate but then you work with the colonials.You are no longer a pirate.Even when you work with the rebels, you are not a pirate.

The whole game is about how evil the mantis are, how the emperor betrayed his human race, etc.By becoming a pirate, you are not better than him.

Regards
Dark Lord

 

[ridoi]

I do not like the idea we can't be done with sm or any another one

 

[ElectroM]

Electrom, with all the respect, I have to say no to your idea.

The reason I play pirate galaxy is because you can choose if u want to fight or no and that makes PG a great game.You can choose yourself how you will play the game.You can be a pirate (who always stays in red) or a normal guy, who prefers to hunt cry and do missions

No im not a chicken, but I wouldnt like to be ganged by a group of players in a higher system.That just turns PG into a DO, u should know what it is.

Btw its just a name, there is no description that says this game is a pirate game.Its just the name that was created long time ago when the game was still being tested.

Who said the character you play is a pirate.You start as a pirate but then you work with the colonials.You are no longer a pirate.Even when you work with the rebels, you are not a pirate.

The whole game is about how evil the mantis are, how the emperor betrayed his human race, etc.By becoming a pirate, you are not better than him.

Regards
Dark Lord

Then the hole game name should be changed

Who said the Character you play is a pirate?

May I quote? Yes..? Thank you !

You take the role of a daring space pirate as you set out to fight the aliens, ambush their transport ships, ...... ETC

Go to official game page and check that out..

Turns PG into DO: Well NO that's definitely not DO.. DO there's companies and stuff and lots of company fights and lame stuff .. It's only 1 .. just 1 planet in each system, that means in sol, you can go around safely in mars and moon, then challenge start, EARTH, where you gotta finish all sm under RED mode, that why you should be searching for a good clan, squad with people, make it interesting SM,.. then when you in Draconis, You will feel: Dam, finally I am here, that was one fun and long journey on Earth

And yet again I say: NOT EVERY1 will be looking to gang, because they, also, would be wanting to do some SM theirselves..

 

[CommanderCody]

the difference is its FFA if you have your way so unless we form a Pirate Code, no one will EVER get a damn thing done. People arnt dumb, they know how to use PM, I'm betting the reason you want this is so you can pod every single poor noob doing SM's to cut off other clan's supply of memeber. NO MORE RESTRICTIONS!

Btw read my PG2/FvF idea in Ideas For New Systems, its a better way to go in my opinion leaving the current systems as training grounds to prepare for things to come.

 

[ElectroM]

First, I'm not doing it to kill every noob or whatever you say, and yet AGAIN i say: I cannot kill a noob, if i'm in the dam spaceship he is in, it's a equivilent fight, so it's not NOOB shooting it's REAL-TIME challenge planet.. Which you are too noob to think of going there as too afraid.. You're idea about new systems just to kill other people is good, but I want it to be on SM planet, to make it dam challenging..