Ring 5 droprate and the Sirius Parsec Joke.

[Whatever]

Okay I wanted to talk about these 2 issues for some time now but havent got the time to actually write about it.

Here's the deal - Could SplitScreen explain why the cryonite/blueprint drop rate drastically falls when the giza event is active i.e. phase when we need to gather intel? It's ridiculously low being that last night for example me and a friend of mine spent 4hrs+ shooting strong R5 mantis (Odions, Abasis and that damned Ignomes that has uber aim scrambler which cannot be defeated even with sniper blaster, yet alone with kenyte blaster plus sirius aim pc) and we got 25k cryonite and only 2 blueprint pieces each. I'm not a greedy person but this is way too unrewarding. Is it because when event is active drop includes intel file as "loot" thus reduces the chance of cryonite/blueprint or what? I'd love to hear explanation on this...

And on to the Sirius Parsec...
To whom it may concern,
Wait, silly me, if the programmers cared I wouldnt be writing this rant in the first place would I? So I hope they will start to notice and care when we direct some constructive criticism based on facts and numbers which I think I done quite thoroughly here.

Anyhow, I'll keep it brief and use math to simplify things a lot.

Punisher fully armored and with kenyte items: 1 574 700 cryonite / 19 211HP points (Thanks V-hyper for his website that contains prices and other amazingly useful info)

Parsec fully armored and with kenyte items: 3 577 166 / 12 799 HP (I used Punisher vs Parsec because both are damage dealers, but Ancient ships are all buffed up to the skies, or you can say that prototypes are nerfed beyond recognition and have become a shadow of their earlier self)

So, numbers speak for themselves, but I want to know this: WHY is the Parsec (which almost cost 3x more than Punisher) and other prototypes (especially Disruptor which takes all aggro due to high damage output but has paper armor) so much messed up and downgraded so much? I dont see the logic in it. And I'd ask GMs here to spare me the story that "Parsec is a Rolls Royce of PG" - it's more like Yugo now, thank you very much :sarcasm implied: - I'm in this game for a long time now and really dont need lecture, I want explanation just as other prototype owners who are "upset" (this is mildly put and as polite as it can be) with what this game has become and why we are constantly being trodden on.

To further illustrate my case I'll just use another game (this one is with tanks not spaceships but it's all the same) which actually has quite good mechanics and logic - once you buy tier 10 tank you own a beast. It cost a lot but it's worth every penny you invest in it, which sadly cant be said for prototypes in PG anymore.

Rgds,
~w/e

 

[Zalza]

The GM'S will end up removing this post like they removed mine, apparently we don't have a freedom of speech.


This is a good example of others replying with Flaming text, what could be a reason for to remove a thread where the first post is all ok!
I will leave this up here, maybe an example will make you users to reflect and think over what to post and not.

Adrana


^^ ooh Look at Adrana trying to humiliate me, hah.

Oh look Adrana is not trying to humiliate anyone, you yourself are doing an excellent job on that yourself

Adrana

 

[Whatever]

The GM'S will end up removing this post like they removed mine, apparently we don't have a freedom of speech.

Havent used foul language therefore I dont see the reason they do so. I guess they can remove it under some "excuse" but it doesnt fix these issues stated here over which many people agree on and share this point of view.

 

[Adrana]

The GM'S will end up removing this post like they removed mine, apparently we don't have a freedom of speech.

First of all the GM's are not Forum Moderators, therefore would be nice to learn the difference between the staff on forum and staff ingame.

2nd you are guessing wrongly, I do not see flaming nor insults to staff members or company, nor do see bad language or other reason to remove this extremely well written post by Whatever.

This is constructive critic, written with good taste and following the Forum posting rules.
As long a post follow that criteria it will not be removed.

Any post what breaks even a little the required rules for posting will be removed from the public forum, so please think twice, no, 3 times before posting, and read it carefully through before posting.
Try also to write as correct as possible to avoid any misunderstandings.

There is always a reason for posts being removed, either has the topic been breaking rules, or a reply does.
So also think carefully before responding to a post flaming etc. cause you can destroy a post that way by someone who started well.

If you want to be heard, make a post with taste in a mature way without breaking any rule.

If anyone writes in a flaming way and want the devs to read, think many times, would u care to read a bad post directed to you yourself?

 

[redzebra01]

Hello Adrana, this is a correct post you write back, but you avoiding the first question. What he's saying is correct and deserves an answer. ( I know you can)
Just playing back for a few weeks as i'm waiting for another game to come out, oh y i even bought a membership ( despite the fact splitscreen still own me some money as you certainly remember)
But why I came back for this game for a few weeks?
Maybe you don’t know but you have one of the best chat systems out there. You’re game is inviting people to enjoy together. And I can compare, played alot of others.
But why you’re messing you’re game up??? When you start you had one of the best games, and still for people who start until mizar (except for the conquest’s , maybe return to the first cq’s as in the beginning). But then ? .You see what happens to ****** or ****** or …
Just went for the last event now, I didn’t even want the bp but just playing for fun . But… I left, an event should be fun and entertaining as you made events before.
Maybe I can point this out as it was before in pg.
You go alone or in sq of 2,3 ,4 ,5. Normally, still if you playing good, you’re almost killed or killed first time, second , third, … but you get bp
Now you don’t even get a scratch but ok you need 4 or 5 in squad to have enough firepower, otherwhise there are to many mantis and mission fails but still all don’t get a scratch and the pod doesn’t get hit, k same but where’s the fun ?
If you make an event like this with protect the pod, make it protect the pod not about how many mantis are still alive.

Nah I stop here and Adrana this isn’t a rant, you still have a good game but upgrade it like the first 2 years and you’ll have a great game for the coming years ,Sirius should’ t be the endgame and above mizar, should be good playing for nonpaying members, you need the base.

 

[Royalcat]

While the parsec issue has been harped on for quite a while, might as well add my two cents.

It seems more an more, the parsec class ships are being treated by the developers as the standard ships in Sirius, where a parsec storm is to the META storm as the META storm was to the sol storm, and so on and so forth. On the same hand the ancient ships, while looked upon by players as the real Sirius ships seem to be treated by the developers as the rare ships. But as noted in the opening post and countless others on this forum, one is paying half the price of a "standard system ship" for a ship who's capabilities far exceed that of the standard ships. It can be noted that a far greater proportion of active players are grinding for a parsec class if they already don't have one, in Sirius compared to any previous system. (This is an assumption on my part but probably not far off by the looks of things.)

The parsec class ships aren't without their benefits, as they offer a leg up when first entering Sirius with some extra armor, stun resistance, and a familiar item combination to ships from previous systems. That being said, the first two can be made up for with good engineer and defender support from people who already have decent tech, while the item combinations account for very little when one sees a Punisher taking on tough 5th ring enemies and Mysts soloing bosses, where the parsec barley survives against the "easy" Sirius NPCs.



(By the way I see your tier 10 and raise you an artillery!)

 

[Adrana]

Re: Ring 5 droprate and the Sirius Parsec Joke.

Postby redzebra01 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:19 am
Hello Adrana, this is a correct post you write back, but you avoiding the first question. What he's saying is correct and deserves an answer. ( I know you can)

Hello redzebra01, I am a Forum Moderator, I am not a Developer, I am also a player, and voluntarily been on this forum for 2 years, 6 Months 3 Days today.
I do not know about the game mechanisms more then what anyone playing this knows.
I handle the forum posts, not development, so many questions what are out there, they are also my questions.
Been playing also since the begin, so that way this game is very familiar to me.

So therefore you must understand, I have no knowledge nor answers to your questions,
anytime I have, I surely post them.

 

[tazzdevil]

well I can just agree with all what Whatever said above its a big joke to call parsec's ultimate ship...coz its not anymore............

 

[ON_ur_SYX]

For the longest time I have asked why the parsec class ships are so expensive....for so much cry... what extra do they offer? What special benefit other than the ability to adapt to multiple systems? Even when they put the "superior" armor on it ... it only a little stronger than a 70 ship with meth. There is no other benefit other than bragging rights to owning a parsec ship....

One thing that would have been nice for the parsec class ship is an extra item.. such as for the constructor ... maybe an aim scrambler... and for the terrorizer... maybe an extra beacon that has a unique ability... etc...a separate item or ability that sets it apart from the rest, because I too fail to see the advantage of having one if they cost so much for them. Its not just a little more cry... its an incredible amount of cry for a ship that doesn't offer much more than an average system ship does.

As far as the droprate in sirus... i have to agree... however it seems a little worse with bp's than cry. People dont want to be in sirus because its not worth it to them and its so time consuming. You can spend a few hours.... more.. there and not get two bp's.

Also, one thing i have noticed in addition to this is a booster issue. I have noticed time and again that when someone has a a bp booster, and they are hunting tech with someone that doesn't... the person without the booster sees even less bp's than when with someone that doesn't have the booster, or when he is alone. It's almost as if the booster is taking away from the one that doesn't have one ...and giving it to the one that does. If i have a booster running i dont even go to get them tech anymore... (in any system) because they see even less than if they went alone or someone else that doesn't have a booster running. When i dont have a bp booster running... the tech drops normally. I have tested this out countless times.

This is not a rant or criticism, I am providing the info as I hope to assist by making them aware of the problem, and hopefully it helps them when they do fix some of these issues.

 

[Defcon]

I fully understand and support the booster system. People who pay for the booster should see more BP's. I think that works perfectly, also in Sirius. That does not exclude the non paying players. They can see te normal dropping BP's. Splitscreen needs to make money on this game. Without the money the game would be done with very soon. So either buy some stuff or live with the droprate. I am by the way not under the impression that people who have no booster, in a group with people that do have one, get less or more BP's.

Parsec Class ship is a choice you make as a player. I bought one. it looks cool, but as you said, nothing extra and definitely not worth the effort. If you think ahead, yhe extra armours for that ship are very expensive and pretty much as an expensive car, it is expensive to maintain. BUT, still the choice off the player.

On the drop rate in Sirius, my earlier posts on that subject got removed, although I don't see how they were offensive in any way. Let me put it this way, there is no player I know that is happy with the droprate overall in Sirius and with the randomness of the system. I think that says it all.

The big difference I see since the Sirius system went online is that now it is more balanced. Mantis can be killed in a group and some even alone on the lower ring planets.

Greetz Defcon

 

[Turel97]

i have a parsec storm too for sirius , but as Royalcat says , i will use it in next system only at first to gain first tech available.
devs should make a magic and make it so that a parsec storm in sirius, with 4 armours, to be more stronger than an ancient ship with 3 armours.
who's fault will be if new pilots in game start grind a parsec storm and will realize that armour isnt so ''prototype''-ish at all ? too much time to grind is a hard work.......

in sirius i had quit playing with my parsec storm, even it has 4 armours.
i have raven with 2 out of 3 armours now, but use sirius shield too. and this raven as it is, has same strength as my parsec storm.

im not feeling bad cause i wasted time to grind my parsec storm , preparng it as a sirius ship.
im only feeling bad that from now on , for the period i will be in sirius, it will rust in hangar.

my conclusion : parsec storm , with 4 armours, in sirius, is good only in rings 1 and 2 . good when comes to solo in 1vs1 the npc-s i mean.

 

[ridoi]

Well I won't say the parsec ships are strong, which they aren't much of, but the parsec can be good in pvp Against the Punisher, if it misses all it's rocket's xD...

The Distruper is considered a joke, with it's high aggro, all mobs come to it, and it got so low armor, give us a break, you make pilot like me sell there parsec's, they're waste of my ship list! Grind grind grind, grind to you got around 3,5 million cryonite! It sickens me! play the game for gods sake, just see how messed up you have made it, at least make cryonite bit easier to get make, or reduce the amount to pay for these useless ships! why did we get so weak ships in the first place? not only are the prototypes a joke, but all sirius ships! is this supposed to be a system where you team up and fight? when 10 guys goes to a area with some few mobs(5th ring) and new mobs spawn, we're simply done for it! Make it hard, but don't make it so hard at the point were we're bored to death your failures made even people i know in RL leave the game. We had so much fun before 20-30 guys going to sol and jump each others, we didn't care much for cryonite! It was all fun! we'd buy booster if we needed to, it was all for the fun, now it's...

sry for bad writing, but i had lil time to fix it xD

gl fixing the boredom...

 

[handsanitizer]

you need a good tank on your team, we have a tank in our clan, and id say hes one of the best at PvE
theres no way the sirius mantis will attack any of us accept his dominator hes a master with the taunt and other stuff xP