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Have to say I am extremely disappointed in this new ship. It looks absolutely awesome and the combination of tech in this hybrid would make it a great ship if it weren't made of paper. Even with the rep droid running this ship is a one shot pod. One strong rocket or orbital strike and it's dead. For 4 million cryonite it's a pretty bad deal. Bad enough for those of us who did the event for it, but I bet the guys who paid a hundred bucks for the bps are really upset. You would think since it has no other defense they would have given it better armor. Can I get a refund? :sneaky:
 

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You need to learn how to fly it, it's defence is the Stundome, where those use Stuns for offensive ways you need to use this one defensively. It isn't a one shot pod from neither OS or rocket if hit with just that, yea both those will take about 90% of your HP if they hit you but it isn't a one shot.
 

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A sirius ancient strong rocket and one sirius ancient strong orbital strike can definitely 1-shot an obsidan. The obsidians armor is comparable to the parsec storms armor. Punishers/Dominators can be taken down to 1 bar of health on a high enough critical from either of those two weapons alone. Its been tested by others, and i've seen it first hand (on both ends of those weapons). If you don't believe me, you can either test it for yourself or look it up on HitchHikers Guide. Theyre saying the max damage a strong os or strong rocket will do to an obsidian, for example, is 150% The average damage for the OS is 93% (an os crit or an os and 1 blaster shot will kill it...) and for the rocket the average is 82% (same thing with that...a crit or an extra shot or two and it will die)

I agree, for having to spend nearly 4m cryonite (and roughly $100 in gold if the blueprints were bought) they shouldnt be able to be killed in a single shot (or two shots) in a pvp. Either that or there should be some kind of extra feature for Parsec classes aside from a small armor bonus over ships of the same class/system and the invulnerability to NPC stuns after the 4th armor.

Speaking of invulnerability to stuns, there is a glitch on some ring 1-4 planets in sirius (mostly imperial planets) where stuns affect Ancient ships and Parsec classes. It doesnt stop them in their tracks, but it does slow movement and cooldowns noticeably. This is probably the wrong place for this, but since i mentioned it earlier....
 
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this ship should have more HP than parsec as it is more expensive than parsec. armors are more expensive as well. while black granite gets more HP than dominator it is not the case with obisdian which is utter nonsense. if something costs more then it should be better.
 

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Whatever said:
this ship should have more HP than parsec as it is more expensive than parsec. armors are more expensive as well. while black granite gets more HP than dominator it is not the case with obisdian which is utter nonsense. if something costs more then it should be better.
RDX ships cost less than 50k cryonite more(ship cost+armors). BG should have hp of parsec storm to be balanced, nonsense is that it have even more hp than dominator. Obsidian is much more balanced. If you want RDX ships to be much better than regular parsecs, then one RDX ship should cost around 6-7mln cryinite to build... oh wait, RDX ships are already better than regular parsecs! I have idea, let's remove parsec and dominator from the game, these ships are now useless because of RDX ships, then what's the point of it. Give us our cryonite back.
 

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Gon wrote:
BG should have hp of parsec storm to be balanced, nonsense is that it have even more hp than dominator.
The Black Granite is considered a Tank class, so it should/does have around the same HP as a Parsec Tank/Dominator, not the Parsec Storm...the only other ship with comparable tech that they could re-balance it to would be the Myst...but they wanted it to be a Tank class, so...
Gon wrote:
I have idea, let's remove parsec and dominator from the game, these ships are now useless because of RDX ships, then what's the point of it. Give us our cryonite back.
I have to agree here....I just finished my Dominator just a few months ago and now they have the Black Granite which is better than the Domi in every way...i want my cryonite back! :( :cry:
Whatever wrote:
this ship should have more HP than parsec as it is more expensive than parsec. armors are more expensive as well. while black granite gets more HP than dominator it is not the case with obisdian which is utter nonsense. if something costs more then it should be better.
I agree, the RDX Obsidian should also get a HP boost like the Black Granite did...i don't understand why they didn't boost its armor as well. Even though the armors/ship is only 10k more each, if they gave one of the ships in the set more HP, they should give the rest more HP as well...If they gave the new tank more hp than the old tank, they should give the new storm more hp than the old storm...and for the stun/engi class it should be the same thing...it just makes sense that way lol its been that way all through the systems. Also, they should be unstunnable in TC...i don't know if its already like this or not (not that theres currently a reason to go to TC at all anyway...) but still
 
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Gon said:
Whatever said:
this ship should have more HP than parsec as it is more expensive than parsec. armors are more expensive as well. while black granite gets more HP than dominator it is not the case with obisdian which is utter nonsense. if something costs more then it should be better.
RDX ships cost less than 50k cryonite more(ship cost+armors). BG should have hp of parsec storm to be balanced, nonsense is that it have even more hp than dominator. Obsidian is much more balanced. If you want RDX ships to be much better than regular parsecs, then one RDX ship should cost around 6-7mln cryinite to build... oh wait, RDX ships are already better than regular parsecs! I have idea, let's remove parsec and dominator from the game, these ships are now useless because of RDX ships, then what's the point of it. Give us our cryonite back.
please do read my comment, think about what's written and then discuss. your comment makes no sense at all. my point is: since granite (a hybrid tank class) has more hp than dominator (also a tank), then obisdian (hybrid storm) should have more hp than parsec (also a storm) because both granite and obisdian cost more than their respective counterparts dominator and parsec. for bigger price of granite you get more hp than dominator but for bigger price of obisdian you dont get more hp than parsec. and that's the difference.
 

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ZeribreX said:
You need to learn how to fly it, it's defence is the Stundome, where those use Stuns for offensive ways you need to use this one defensively. It isn't a one shot pod from neither OS or rocket if hit with just that, yea both those will take about 90% of your HP if they hit you but it isn't a one shot.
I disagree. The parsec class ship, ie- terrorizer or the obsidian can not hold up to ancient tech. Period. They are paper.
 

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Yeah thats the point, its really disgusting this ship is a one shot pod for the Myst or the Punisher and if anyone has one that thinks its a matter of skill Ill be happy to pod them with my Myst. The Obsidian has a nice strong name but its made of paper, a pitiful waste of time and cryo. My friend paid a hundred bucks for the blueprints and hes just sick. I REALLY want my money back.
 

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Wow, I see that some people realized now how strong armor have normal parsec. Obsidian is not a waste of cryo because it will have next armor in tau ceti and there isn't any parsec with better firepower than it. Look at relation domi - black granite and parsec - obsidian and you will see that the domi is pointless and parsec is only better than obsidian in pvp with shielded enemy. Stop comparing ancient hybrids to parsec ships. When tau ceti will be rebuild, ancient hybrids will be obsolete after installing new armor on parsec ships. Also, upgrading draconis armor to sirius one is cheaper than buying a hybrid.
 

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Gon said:
Obsidian is not a waste of cryo because it will have next armor in tau ceti (...) When tau ceti will be rebuild, ancient hybrids will be obsolete after installing new armor on parsec ships.
Most likely true, but how long will that take? They released Tau Ceti almost a year ago and we still have nothing but half of a planet, no tech, bad cryo and stunnable ancients/parsecs in there. Even when they do, they will either have to give Ancient ships another armor, or come out with a new set of Tau Ceti-system ships in the hangar. The point is that if a ship costs significantly more, it's expected that they be somewhat better than another ship at the same level/armor/tech. Why does the Obsidian/Parsec-class have to have Tau Ceti armor in order to stand a chance against an Ancient ship with Sirius armor/tech? It should be able to go toe-to-toe using the same level armor as its opponent, especially since it costs so much more.

Another question/point that still stands is why did the Granite get more armor than the Domi, but the Obsidian didnt get more armor than the Parsec?

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Also, upgrading draconis armor to sirius one is cheaper than buying a hybrid.
Yes, but thats irrelevant considering players would already have spent roughly 2.5m (800k-1m more than full sirius Ancient ship) not including tech by the time they get to just Draconis Armor.
 

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Gon said:
Wow, I see that some people realized now how strong armor have normal parsec. Obsidian is not a waste of cryo because it will have next armor in tau ceti and there isn't any parsec with better firepower than it. Look at relation domi - black granite and parsec - obsidian and you will see that the domi is pointless and parsec is only better than obsidian in pvp with shielded enemy. Stop comparing ancient hybrids to parsec ships. When tau ceti will be rebuild, ancient hybrids will be obsolete after installing new armor on parsec ships. Also, upgrading draconis armor to sirius one is cheaper than buying a hybrid.
Even with TauCeti armor it won't hold up to ancient tech. With Tau Ceti armor it might be equivalent to drac... might lol
 

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IMHO i think the armors are good as they are, if they were different, then things would not be balanced for PVP, that's why armor drones and speed drone exist...if u want more armor or speed for your ship, get on of those :mrorange:
 

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METHANOID said:
IMHO i think the armors are good as they are, if they were different, then things would not be balanced for PVP, that's why armor drones and speed drone exist...if u want more armor or speed for your ship, get on of those :mrorange:
Yeah sure sure... but only Speed Boosters works for PvP as PvE, but Fire Booster or Armor Booster doesn't. Those two work for PvE only.. otherwise everybody should be using it all time.
I am 100% agreed with all comments here. Anyways few weeks ago the Aim Scramblers been downgraded, now Strong Aim Scramblers SUCKS!!!.
Something even worse is the new HP Bar... the old one was better; adding the black color was excellent trust me but.., they shouldn't have change the bar and upgrade Sirius Ancient Strong Tech pfff.. :sneaky: :sneaky: :sneaky:
Sirius Ancient Strong Rocket + Sirius Ancient Strong Aim Computer = Pod Obsidian, Parsec, Myst, Legionary, Terrorizer, Hunter, Locust, Onyx Marble, Constructor, Raven, Ghost, Raider in a Crit Rocket pffff...
Now 1 Sirius Ancient Strong Rocket + Sirius Ancient Strong Sniper Blaster or a Sirius Ancient Strong Orbital Strike + Sirius Ancient Strong Sniper Blaster pod a Punisher or an Obsidian... well depending of the use of your Repair Droid... Obsidian should have same armor as Legionary or HyAn or a bit less than Domi.. Black Granite same armor as Dominator and Punisher as well.. forget it don't waste time in taxes lol... :cool:

-Best Regards & Wishes.
 

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Obsidian is a hybrid PARSEC STORM then no addidional hp for it, people forget about balance between ships. It's the other problem that weapons and armors aren't balanced from the beginning of sirius. People should stop whining that storm should have only bit less hp than tank. Obsidian is fine, it's the most deadly ship at this moment. Stun dome + strong orbital and strong rocket on aim computer is a surprise for every ship.
 

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Gon said:
Obsidian is a hybrid PARSEC STORM then no addidional hp for it, people forget about balance between ships. It's the other problem that weapons and armors aren't balanced from the beginning of sirius. People should stop whining that storm should have only bit less hp than tank. Obsidian is fine, it's the most deadly ship at this moment. Stun dome + strong orbital and strong rocket on aim computer is a surprise for every ship.
Except a myst. Protector, stun, os, shoot. Poof goes obsidian.
 

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Gon said:
Obsidian is a hybrid PARSEC STORM then no addidional hp for it, people forget about balance between ships. It's the other problem that weapons and armors aren't balanced from the beginning of sirius. People should stop whining that storm should have only bit less hp than tank. Obsidian is fine, it's the most deadly ship at this moment. Stun dome + strong orbital and strong rocket on aim computer is a surprise for every ship.
Oh really????? i play since 2010 -Gon- :p and i already know that, i just say "Why Obsidian shouldn't get more HP?". It's because if Black Granite is a Tank Hybrid Class Ship it was 15% armoured more than Punisher and Dominator and that's NOT fair...
For me and always will be the best PvP Ship ever is Hunter :), Hunter can solo every ship even Marlstone easy :)

-Redips.
 

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RDX-01 Obsidian Parsec combines putting out vast amounts of splash damage with a body of unprecedented elegance.
 
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