Playing The Game . . .

[datajam]

Apparently I am a "throw-back" to the better days, because folks around me all seem to find a reason not to play the game. I do not mean they don't log on and do this or that. I mean they play a "limited" game. So, I am looking for a little bit of opinion from some of you folks. Not attitude, actual opinion would be appreciated.

Ya see, I think it necessary to play the whole game. The missions, the grinding, the constant search for upgraded BP's, conquests, and the periodic skirmish that just seems to happen when certain players abound. But many of my fellow PG Pilots are not in agreement with me. They figure since there is no benefit to doing conquests, why do them. And, as for going "red" to play a little "skirmish" action . . . "Not Interested!"

Personally, I think doing nothing but "Sirius" day In and day out is "boring" as spending the day harvesting "e-balls", both a significant time burner where you did little else but the same repetitive thing repetitively. Others think the exorbitant "cry" loss involved in doing CQs is stupidity in motion. I have always tried to play every aspect of the game and encouraged others to do so also. Suddenly I find myself wondering if I am the only one that feels this way.

I mean, what good is just playing one part of the game without playing the other parts of the game? Just because the Game Makers take away bonuses from part of the game, do we stop playing it? What, you think suddenly their going to give us something for free? It is not going to happen. They are going to continue to find ways to make their money out of the game, regardless the impact on the game. So, do we quit playing the game as intended, or keep playing the game hoping to find a little fun and enjoyment in what we are paying for?

Like I said, I am seeking opinions on this topic. Rants about SplitScreen, the developers, or myself probably will serve no real useful purpose, so save that stuff for a different topic.


Thanks,

datajam/WRichards

 

[Starchaser]

Hello Rich, well I can give you some of my opinions here.
First I wanna know, what is your point in this post?

Well, I been playing PG since 31st July 2009, so I can be called a PG vet, or better, I should be called.
Imo. I don't see where you want to go with your post, what are you seeking, and with what purpose?
I still enjoy playing this game, I am not a complainer, not a whiner, and I accept changes as it is in all their rights to do so.

Many changes was done due to players suggestions, but I have also seen players suggesting, then complaining about same issue.

In all if you do not like or love a game, there is no use to continue it if you do not feel well playing it, if you spend your time to find all points what don't please you, thats a waste of time.
I love this game, and I still play daily, and am a very active player.

I find always something to do in the game, if you are tired of the repetitive stuff on Sirius, take your clan, go only around R1 and R2, take it easy, and relax, do other things, go to lower systems, help other players, teach other players your skills, and give them part of your experience, then you can say you have done something good, and helped some new player to become a better player with more knowledge.
There is always something to do else than Sirius, no one is pulling a gun at you telling you Now you have to stay in Sirius and play same day by day rite. ^^

Solaria, your server, well you know me, and I know you, I used to be in ur clan in the past till I became inactive standing player on Moon.
The ongoing Drama, I have seen it is still going on there, was one of the reasons I stopped to play there, hate between clans, hate between players, isn't that kind of exhausting with time, I bet that is one of the reasons of feeling the way you do.

Why not turn a leaf, turn a new page, start playing the game more peacefully, maybe you could that way see what happens around you, and this is not only for you, but for many players, and clans.
The pessimism is something bad what spreads like a bad illness, don't throw a good game away cause you cannot look into it with a positive view.

Attitudes, if you tell yourself daily the same, on and on again, you will finally start to believe your words, even if they are not intarely truth.

I mean, what good is just playing one part of the game without playing the other parts of the game?

Tell me what parts you can play, and what parts you cannot play, I for me don't see anything in this game I cannot play, and do, after all, I have passed all systems, am a R85 player who reach Sirius.
I can do anything in this game, except, I cannot restart the lowest missions as a smuggler, as I am a Colonist, but I hardly believe you are referring to that.

keep playing the game hoping to find a little fun and enjoyment in what we are paying for?

I am a p2p aka pay to play player, I have Ultimate membership, I have fire and damage boosters, I have bp & cry boosters, vault prot booster, all monthly, and I definitely also get the advantages out of paying, so I am not quite understanding what you are talking about here?

But regardless of a paying player or not, this game can be played without paying, I have other accounts, on almost all servers, but Askone is the one I pay for, not elsewhere, and I have made progress, I have made cry, levels, ships, and all without paying, so if you don't have a credit card, and you cannot buy gold, you can still enjoy this game.
Well of course it has it's worse sides, like taking Energy on and on again, you cannot hyper on starmap all time, and progress is slower than a paying customer has, but so what, you can still enjoy this game, there is no rush anywhere, the rush is just and only a state in the players mind, it's not a must.

Well I hope you got some out of my reply, you wanted opinions, and I gave you mine.
I will also give you a good advice:

Stop complaining, and start enjoy the game, or then, leave the game, no one forces you to play a game you have nothing good to say about.

 

[datajam]

Whoa, rein this pony back a minute! There is definitely a misunderstanding . . .

What I am trying to refer to, Is my desire to play all aspects of the game, as intended by the Game makers Vs. those that do not want to play certain parts of the game, limiting their game to just certain portions of the game.

I have been playing this game for quite a while and watched the changes come and go. And, other than a short period during which I was otherwise occupied, I have always encouraged others to play all aspects of the game.

This is where my dilemma starts. I want to continue playing the game as intended by the Game Makers. Doing missions, playing Conquests, and etc. But suddenly, others in my camp are not interested in doing so. Instead of doing any of the pvp portions of the game, many would prefer to spend their time doing Sirius, hour after hour, day after day, and so on. I find just doing Sirius boring. I find restricting my game in any way kind of boring. I mean, the game is intended to be played, why limit your game?

And, it seems as though many players I have talked with are content restricting their game to just certain activities. So, my question were I actually asking is: Does anybody still play all aspects of the game or am I alone in my efforts to do so? While you can play this game for free, ( and you are a far more patient player than I are you able to play for free ) I chose to spend a good deal of money playing and I want to play the full game. Believe it or not, there are players on Solaria server that have never participated in a CQ, and others that have never played a pvp battle (does not mean they have not been podded repeatedly by others, just means they have never actually participated in a fair pvp battle ).

I am of the opinion (mind you, my opinion) that clan leaders/players that discourage players playing all aspects of the game are doing a dis-service to others by restricting the game play of others. This leaves me wondering; Am I the only one that wants to play the game?

So I guess the point of this Post is to seek the opinion of others regarding playing all aspects of the game Vs. playing a limited game. Which do they prefer and why?

In closing, my Post has nothing to do with my complaining about the game, but others complaining about playing all aspects of the game. Where you derive the idea that I am having issue with the game is beyond me. The reverse is the case. I come to play the game to its full extent. It is others complaining about it that discourages me. Because others do not want to play, I am expected not to do so. And I believe that if anyone is discouraging others participation in playing portions of the game, they are impacting the game of others as well as myself. It is more a case of; "What's wrong folks, play the game." I hope this provides you a clearer picture of my thoughts on this issue.


Thanks,

datajam/WRichards

 

[Morpheus GM]

this is a subject that only each individul can answer, some want acheivements, some play for the pure pleasure of playing, some want to be the best, and yet others are happy to plod along and never PvP

people from all walks of life and many countries play this game and most agree that its a fun game.
so what if some choose not to go red or do CQ, thats the beauty of Pirate galaxy, there are choices.
and for each choice there can be consequences of those choices, good or bad, the choice is yours

my advice is "just get in there and play how you like" as long as you all follow the rules

 

[DarkEmpire]

I'm Disappointed how it come,
So far than i can tell,
Splitscreen make almost same Mission
*Copy and paste now* example Event of Eggs for collecting A parsec,
And Drone,. that was what you need for it,

for a example Celebrating 3 Years of Pirate Galaxy!

Personally thought you have to do 3 mission or something to get some cool Drone
But I have seriously mistaken You need to collect A LOT OF STUFF
A LOT OF MISSION if you dont like to do it *YOU CAN PAY a lot Of GOLD*
and that was ((you got be kidding me

And this joke is not over there copy and paste it again

and same JOkE A Lot of GOld

But if you did everything what there told 9
yay i got a new cool Drone,
but if you use it and it take hell of you Energy,

and this is not only Joke's that Splitscreen are doing,

BP system was not a problem, but beginning of SIRIUS SYSTEM was most terrible system that i have been,

so far best system that i know that i truly Like is SOL system Story mission new map new Enemy.

SO far pirate galaxy become. its Broke my Hard It is my best game that i have player *ONLINE*
Please Splitscreen Rethink everything

*Sorry for English I'm trying to explain lol

Greetings DarkEmpire

PS Astraeus Do we get any news?

(SolarLord, I helped you out a bit, and corrected your spelling~Adrana)

 

[datajam]

Maybe I am still not being clear enough.

I am not complaining about the game. That would be a complete separate topic that would eventually cause more issue than resolve. I am complaining about us, the players of the game. The folks that make this game have intended we play the game as is, regardless of changes to the game.

This means that to play the game correctly we have to participate in playing all aspects of the game as is. This includes conquests, grinding, BP hunts, skirmishes, and etc. So, that is what I am trying to do. But, at every turn my fellow players are complaining that they do not want to do so. They do not want to do conquests because they lose cry. They do not want to participate in any skirmishes because they lose cry and are diverted from other activities. And, so on and so forth.

I pay a good deal of money on this game and want to play the whole game. But, others complain that they don't want to. I watch players discourage other players from participation in aspects of the game like they are doing the player some benefit. Telling others to not play the game to its fullest is cheating the player out of playing the full game. How does this benefit other players? All this does is cause players to miss out on portions of the game that they may well enjoy.

In my humble opinion, to play the game, you have to play the full game. Failure to do so is cheating your fellow player out of enjoying the complete game. My reference to doing Sirius as boring is intended to demonstrate that just doing Sirius without participation in other parts of the game, is boring. The game requires participation in all aspects to keep it exciting and fun for all.

People wonder why so many people have not returned to play the game. Is it because we are not playing the game as intended? The intent of my post is to see if anybody else want to play the whole game as intended, or if I am the only one that thinks that we should be doing so?


datajam/WRichards

 

[elfrich]

I mean, what good is just playing one part of the game without playing the other parts of the game? Just because the Game Makers take away bonuses from part of the game, do we stop playing it? What, you think suddenly their going to give us something for free? It is not going to happen. They are going to continue to find ways to make their money out of the game, regardless the impact on the game. So, do we quit playing the game as intended, or keep playing the game hoping to find a little fun and enjoyment in what we are paying for?

I believe most people look for the enjoyment portion of a game, I know that is why I play them. I believe you answered the question yourself in this paragraph. it is one thing to level and grind cry which gives a sense of accomplishment to me personally. However when some options of the game cost me the precious commodity I have spent so much time working for I choose not to participate in that part of it. As for events, most games give gifts that are just laying around to pick up or some trivial mission to collect it. When the "Gift" requires literally days of work and takes a way for the leveling and cry making then it is not really a gift is it. Very similar to the current CQ and PVP system. Any real pirate will tell you "whats in it for me" and if it cost me something then I'm not interested.
Some aspects of this game were changed back when drac first opened and I occasionally come read the forums to see if things are getting back to the old fun days and thought I would chime in here. I actually logged in few times and did a little grinding on gazica a while back and what I basically observed was the majority of players endlessly searching for BP's in Sirius and everyone else (non sirius/drac players) trying to level up to drac/sirius and begging for help all the time to empty chat responses or "sorry no time right now, i'm looking for BP's in sirius".......... and there weren't very many of those lower level players around.
The reason is simple some parts of the game were changed that took the fun out of it for a lot of people, that is why you don't see a whole lot of them doing CQ's, PVP or the "events". Siriusly (pun intended) who wants to do things that penalize you in the game, if someone runs all the 1 month boosters then they probably would be more inclined to do PVP, CQ and Events, but most people can't afford that.
I realize that you already know all this stuff and in some small way your post is, in my opinion, a small plea to the developers that has been posted 100's of different ways by many people, I really love the concept of this game and the casual game play it offers and hope that some day it becomes a game that encourages people to participate in all aspects of it as opposed to penalizing them for it. I hope that the developers can figure out how to do that and still make their Money to keep the severs running and pay their employees .

 

[CtMurphy]

I think most of the games features are 'playable' but they aren't all playable in an enjoyable fashion unless you're a paying player.Best example of this is probably the CQs. An average CQ pilot is usually pritty high rank, I've rarely ever seen a low ranker play a CQ except maybe in the very early days of PG. Now EVERYONE can participate. However, unless you have Cryonite protection you're going to lose a lot of cryonite in doing so, especially if you're on a losing streak. If you're high ranking you can lose over 1,000 cryonite every time you get shot down. So if you get shot down 10 times during any one CQ you lose over 10,000 cryonite. Which at least for me would mean upto an hour of grinding. I've never particularly liked standing in one spot and constantly firing at the same object repeatedly for very long, so 10 deaths at the CQ would mean a very boring hour doing something in the game I don't really enjoy. To be honest I wouldn't feel at all compelled to commit to a CQ below the sol CQs if I was over rank 60 because it's not really worth the time it takes to grind it all back again.

Don't get me wrong, the CQs themselves are always fun, usually, but since they changed the death cry drops the CQs kinda stink in respect that no one that doesn't pay would probably wanna go down to Vega, Antares or Gemini CQ and have to grind back all of that cryonite all over again.

Edited.

 

[curator]

Hello, I just like to add a couple of things....

1) Came back after almost 2 years and it's the same old crying and what not......
2) Sitting at 0 cryo, so all I do is pvp atm, which almost got be banned because I completely forgot to read the new RULES, conquest rules???????? Disagree with them 110%......
3) The whole cq system is changed....... need to learn the new cq system.
4) No cryo protection on red sundays? Do we still do red sundays? I was really looking forward to that....
5) I would list more.... But I am kind of off topic it seems.

So, all in all, I see people aren't really into pvp anymore? When I was around we would be flying from 1 planet to another chasing reds..... Miss the good old days. Lastly, someone might say I am toooooooooooooooooooo much into pvp, well to pvp, u need to go find tech, to get tech u need to do your story missions, you need to go get cryo, and everything I forgot to list you have to do, in order to get a decent ship and tech and then go pvp in it. To me, that is playing the full game.

 

[serebus]

Funny thing is that chasing reds from planet to planet is now harrasment and gets u jaild and eventually banned.........welkome back to pony galaxy curator.

 

[curator]

lol........... You don't have to agree with the rules, just follow them.

I actually had this guy harassing me to pod him, when I didn't want to... But I gave in at the end of the day when he said if I pod him people will come after me.
p.s. They never did


edited: What I don't get is, and I might be wrong, why the ..... ( sorry if inappropriate language) do people go red and then cry not to pod them. Like you don't get any bonus for going red.... so this is how I see things, they go red to pod someone and then expect others not to pod them??? I don't get that at all. As far as I care, if your red your dead. The biggest issue is if someone pods a vega ship while their in a sol ship.... Nothing can be done , you can say lol what a noob..... This is where I think you need to join a clan and ask your clan for help. But Again if your red and your in a lower system vega - drac, you need to understand there is a higher system ship out that might pod you. Just like in any other game, if your lvl 40 and go into pvp mode/zone, lvl 60s will pod you.

 

[Astraeus]

Funny thing is that chasing reds from planet to planet is now harrasment and gets u jaild and eventually banned.........welkome back to pony galaxy curator.

Actually it wont. GM should take the stand that it is part of the game. However, it should all be done in the name of "Fair Game Play". This means dont take a ship 4 systems higher yhaan what you are going to Pod. Give them a small fighting chance at the very least.

In the Past, many "RED" Pilots were taking being "Red" to an Extreme Limit by podding Low Level Reds while out of their class. This is what GMs do not like. Sol, Drac or Sirius Ships in Vega or Antares? Dont do it, even if they are Red - If a Sol, Drac or Sirius Pilot is Red in those systems, that is different. Same goes for Mizar & Gemini in Vega or Antares

 

[Astraeus]

Hello, I just like to add a couple of things....

1) Came back after almost 2 years and it's the same old crying and what not......
2) Sitting at 0 cryo, so all I do is pvp atm, which almost got be banned because I completely forgot to read the new RULES, conquest rules???????? Disagree with them 110%......
3) The whole cq system is changed....... need to learn the new cq system.
4) No cryo protection on red sundays? Do we still do red sundays? I was really looking forward to that....
5) I would list more.... But I am kind of off topic it seems.

So, all in all, I see people aren't really into pvp anymore? When I was around we would be flying from 1 planet to another chasing reds..... Miss the good old days. Lastly, someone might say I am toooooooooooooooooooo much into pvp, well to pvp, u need to go find tech, to get tech u need to do your story missions, you need to go get cryo, and everything I forgot to list you have to do, in order to get a decent ship and tech and then go pvp in it. To me, that is playing the full game.

Yes we still do "Red Sunday". CQ Rule you are referring to has to do with Cheating, Cryo Protect was never a Given for Red Sunday

 

[Shadow-Stryker]

Well you know how I like to play wrichards, I love playing all parts of the game. Which includes being the admiral of a great clan, doing cqs, bounty hunting and my love of the game PvPing aginst great pilots. So yes i wished more pilots would be willing to do 1v1s or the shirmishes we have aginst a few clan. I even take part in some game chat arguements, since whats life without a little drama. Instead people would rather sit in orbit and complain about being podded while they hold some large bounty,which they got from noob podding. This part of the game I hate, those pilots that except to be treated differently, they expect to be left alone while they noob pod, but once a bigger ship shows up its harrassment. So i completely agree with you, i only wished the game were a little more friendly aginst non-gold buyer, because i know how painfull it is losing all your hard earned cry in a pvp. I went one month without membership and cry protect and they were terrible.

 

[CtMurphy]

Well you know how I like to play wrichards, I love playing all parts of the game. Which includes being the admiral of a great clan, doing cqs, bounty hunting and my love of the game PvPing aginst great pilots. So yes i wished more pilots would be willing to do 1v1s or the shirmishes we have aginst a few clan. I even take part in some game chat arguements, since whats life without a little drama. Instead people would rather sit in orbit and complain about being podded while they hold some large bounty,which they got from noob podding. This part of the game I hate, those pilots that except to be treated differently, they expect to be left alone while they noob pod, but once a bigger ship shows up its harrassment. So i completely agree with you, i only wished the game were a little more friendly aginst non-gold buyer, because i know how painfull it is losing all your hard earned cry in a pvp. I went one month without membership and cry protect and they were terrible.

Could't agree more.

 

[selkath]

In my opinion all forms of PvP is boring and useless, in normal PvP you can lose a lot (without cryonite protection) but you gain nothing from it and while conquests give gravitons you can also find them as a drop from NPCs or buy them for gold, not to mention PvP more often than not causes people to flame and shout in the chat and cause even more problems.

The only way PvP could become interesting to me is if players drop things like cryonite or special blueprints which can only be found from PvPing.

 

[Shadow-Stryker]

I personally find killing harvs for hours on end extremely boring...in pvps you can show true skills in the use of ur ship.

 

[curator]

The only time people might go pvp if they do cryo protect on red sundays. Personally I don't care if I lose cryo or not, again like some other games (thats why spend cryo on ur ship and go pvp while at 0 cryo), if you die you lose items if not everything. So I look at it as part of the pvp system, but I couldn't agree more, if somehow players actually were rewarded for pvp or maybe at the end of the day the bounty turns to cryo or something, now that would be a good deal.

 

[curator]

By red sunday, I was hoping for like colossus to be open........ lol, I need more pvp

 

[serebus]

In my opinion all forms of PvP is boring and useless, in normal PvP you can lose a lot (without cryonite protection) but you gain nothing from it and while conquests give gravitons you can also find them as a drop from NPCs or buy them for gold, not to mention PvP more often than not causes people to flame and shout in the chat and cause even more problems.

The only way PvP could become interesting to me is if players drop things like cryonite or special blueprints which can only be found from PvPing.

well...they could make it so that u can pick up the poded guys death cry.