Cryo amount decreased again?! (PTR)

[Tyrannus]

New Version on the PTR

The cryonite values were changed again as they were far too high.

The values now are 35% more globally and on top of that 15% extra in draconis.

Whoa whoa whoa I'm sorry what? Far too high? FAR TOO HIGH?! Every single thing that you can buy in Draconis is EXTREMELY FAR TOO HIGH! Comparing it with blueprints in Sol, BP Prices in sol were not that bad. What's with the HUGE INCREASE in Draconis? And here you are saying that the Cryonite was 'far too high'. It's difficult enough trying to grind enough cryonite for a fully equipped Draconis ship (around 571k), even 75% more cry amount isn't enough if your trying to grind for a FULLY EQUIPPED Draconis ship, yet you decreased the cryonite amount to 35%, I thought this game was about fun, NOT grind grind grind grind grind. I Suggest either DECREASING BP PRICES, or, DRASTICALLY INCREASING CRYONITE AMOUNT! I do not fully understand why you did this change.

 

[pbhuh]

yeah, come on SS, can't you once be nice and say, yeah, we made cry drops too low.

Btw, i don't get why you only do a 15% extra in draconis, sol is also way to low.

 

[HyDroxYl]

OMG mate this is just a copy of my post http://forum.pirategalaxy.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12463

 

[pbhuh]

i wanted to make a post too, this is just insane ss, keep us happy, don't backstab us when we think something will finely be fixed.

 

[Sayyadin]

Maybe you don't understand we increased it by 35% on the PTR compared to the live system and another additional 15% on draconis. This increase increases the amount of cryonite per hour drastically.

We don't play around we adjust test and adjust, test again adjust if needed and test again.

This is done on the PTR so you can see what we do.

We are trying to get the same values you had when farming in the lowerlevel systems (while farming in the higher level system instead of purging the lower ones)

Currently our test showed that the best value is 50% increase globally and additional 25% increase for draconis.

Normally we try to go from top to the correct value but the 35% and draconis 10% showed that it was already lower the value that we wanted to achieve.

 

[ridoi]

Maybe you don't understand we increased it by 35% on the PTR compared to the live system and another additional 15% on draconis. This increase increases the amount of cryonite per hour drastically.

We don't play around we adjust test and adjust, test again adjust if needed and test again.

This is done on the PTR so you can see what we do.

We are trying to get the same values you had when farming in the lowerlevel systems (while farming in the higher level system instead of purging the lower ones)

Currently our test showed that the best value is 50% increase globally and additional 25% increase for draconis.

Normally we try to go from top to the correct value but the 35% and draconis 10% showed that it was already lower the value that we wanted to achieve.

come on say the truth U guys did fail ^^


and Sayyadin did U see the prices for the ships at draconis? did U or not! come on 1.1 mill cry for rare ship and 700k for none rare ship full rared full armor, even U just say we where drunk when we done this

 

[TFusion20]

Maybe you don't understand we increased it by 35% on the PTR compared to the live system and another additional 15% on draconis. This increase increases the amount of cryonite per hour drastically.

We don't play around we adjust test and adjust, test again adjust if needed and test again.

This is done on the PTR so you can see what we do.

We are trying to get the same values you had when farming in the lowerlevel systems (while farming in the higher level system instead of purging the lower ones)

Currently our test showed that the best value is 50% increase globally and additional 25% increase for draconis.

Normally we try to go from top to the correct value but the 35% and draconis 10% showed that it was already lower the value that we wanted to achieve.

it drastically increase? yeah 50% but we made before this nonsense update about 14.000 an hour (=100%).. now we make with luck (without booster and without squad) on draconis on your own 6k (=42,8)... thats more that's 68% less then before.. so with ur 50% u still on 18% less then before...

 

[Sayyadin]

it drastically increase? yeah 50% but we made before this nonsense update about 14.000 an hour (=100%).. now we make with luck (without booster and without squad) on draconis on your own 6k (=42,8)... thats more that's 68% less then before.. so with ur 50% u still on 18% less then before...

Where do you have those numbers from?

Tested today alone without booster without any "godmode" with the 35% and 10% draconis.

Outcome about 13k in draconis, 10k in sol.

Did you even test with the values or just blindly guess? If you test what equipment did you use and where did you farm?

 

[pbhuh]

it drastically increase? yeah 50% but we made before this nonsense update about 14.000 an hour (=100%).. now we make with luck (without booster and without squad) on draconis on your own 6k (=42,8)... thats more that's 68% less then before.. so with ur 50% u still on 18% less then before...

Where do you have those numbers from?

Tested today alone without booster without any "godmode" with the 35% and 10% draconis.

Outcome about 13k in draconis, 10k in sol.

Did you even test with the values or just blindly guess? If you test what equipment did you use and where did you farm?

Sayyadin, i think he compeared with old game, where you could make more cryonite with a sol ship (wiht sol tech) then a draconis ship...

 

[Sayyadin]

I understand that but it is not correct that if you increase the value by 2 you do get double the cryonite per hour but instead much more.

We noticed also that even with calculation there are some additional factors ingame that increase and decrease the values and are not even in the calculation.

With 75% increase and 50% in draconis we already did not have double the output but triple the output. Meaning with the 75% and 50% increase you did get much more cryonite per hour than before.

With the value we are content to go live we even expect you to farm better than before (meaning more cryonite per hour).

 

[TFusion20]

whats the problem with tripple the cry output? if u can increase ships from sol > drac with 4x the price why not the cry amount?

 

[ridoi]

I guess this... old time I got about 50k cry, in 4 hours sol sniper, now I got 30k in 4 hours after some stupid updates, then draconis did come 25k 4 hours with this new update let's say a 25% bonus I would get 27k cry in about 4 hours of grinding... so I get still less cry then ever before!!! and I need 700k cry to complete my draconis ship... and I tested it at ptr to!!! like anyone else -.- make the damn cry drop, bp drop as before! and say that you guys made one of the biggest mistakes at Pirate Galaxy's History

Sayyadin, I got a request, please hear my word! and replay wisely,

1.After many grinding days we may get a Draconis ship complete, but the time it takes is to long, as you of course understand, it's OK, we do not like draconis it's hard, but much more fun then sol.
2.The time we grind and play is really not worth it, many players has left, because of your(SS) failure, I got angry, many of my enemies left.
3.Draconis is to hard to get complete if we do not grind at lower systems, Make cry drop higher 75% (cus pilots drop cry all the time! Why not mantis!)
This would help-> Make draconis mantis drop 150% more cry as they do now! People at lower systems should drop as normal, cus they can easy grind to the amount they need of cry and it's not that high as draconis!

draconis full rared with everything none rare ship cost 4 times as much as an sol ship full rared (not the sniper.)
That's all

 

[Gurpz69]

I dont know whats going on but before new loot system i made 10k a hour and 12k if i was lucky 2 get a good few harvz extra.... and way before new loot system and before draconis... im talking a while back i made 20k a hour so i dont know what u guys do with cry drops... but i aint touched draconis since i hit 65 and got a few draconis bps... i dont see the point in the massive amounts of grind for draconis ship... 10k per hour now its 5k a hour... even if it gets slightly better ur talking 50-100+ hour grinds no thanks id choose another game draconis is a joke...

TIP... dont milk the few paying players u have... make the game better and get way more players and get more money like that ull loss paying players soon too games getting way too anoying

 

[Galm]

ok so i have a brilliant idea. i think MANY will agree with this. Stop Ruining What GG made good and revert to the old ways. old CQ less amount of cryo you had to pay. more cryo drops, higher cryo drops. Easier time killing mantis. Oh and the MOST important thing that i allmost forgot to add make it fun again...Seriously though...are you actually Trying to make people quit this game or do you not realize the amount of people that are leaving this game now? i used to play this game but now i dont, i moved on to a game that i finally got a key for. (i subscribed to it AFTER you proceeded to ignore your customers and punish us with these ridiculous down-dates).
So i am going to ask for the sake of those who are still clinging to this game by the thread you pushed them to, please stop updating and start fixing. if you want people to come back, then PLEASE look at the list colored blue up top. it will give some pretty good ideas that im pretty sure we all want. (oh and that bp drop thing...i dont get it, i thought it was a joke at first when i started playing again,went to sol and killed a mantis and it says i have to collect a number of bps...) Just raise the drop chance of the bps not the amount you have to get. i understand you have to even stuff out and all but sometimes for the customers sake its OK to sidestep that rule and reward us for playing every once in a while. raise the cryo for a day or lower the mantis difficulty for a day or something like that. Anyway, allthough i know this message will most likely be ignored, i had to atleast try to convince you to fix the game.

 

[Swiftbug2]

well I aint got a problem with the prices of drac stuff. yea it's a bit steep but it gives me somethin to do. my problem isnt the ammount of c that drops per hour. My problem is the drop rate of c, that with 8600e I only make 2k c in molikar per tank of e. before when I had only 7400 or so e I would make 3.5-4.5k c per tank of e. I dont really care about increasing how much we get per drop but how often it drops. I coulda sworn in the last update the new loot system said cry ammount would be decreased and the droprate increased. All I have noticed is the amount stay the same and the drop rate decrease. So as ya see drop rate is my issue and not the amount per drop

 

[Delorian]

I tried the 75% and 50% Drac increase on PTR and it was GGGGGREAT!

It would certainly have kept me out of the lower systems but now if it goes to 35% + 15% i'll go everywhere again.

You guys at SS seriously need to take a look at how this is affecting the lower system players. With us there all the time we are ruining their game, but you give us no choice. We want grinding spots, Drac has none that are worth the struggle.

You want us to stop ruining lower players games well how about you stop ruining ours, Cry earnt vs cry spent should be proportional that's all we ask. Some players have the time to spend hours and hours online building up their cry, some of us don't have that time but still want to progress and buy the good ships. How are we supposed to do that if you don't make the mantis in the Drac drop a proportionate amount of cry to the over priced stuff in Drac?

We are not asking for the earth, Just incentives and fair play. Keep us happy, keep lower level players happy and make your lives happy by keeping us in Drac. It has been said before and really it aint rocket science.. 100 players buying boosters or 1000 HAPPY players buying boosters... I know which one I'd rather have.

Take a happy pill and spread the love guys.. it doesn't hurt.. honest.

 

[ridoi]

They, think we will stay out from lower systems! well think again. many will quit the game, many shall stay and make it hell for some one else

 

[Daniah]

IWe are not asking for the earth.

Nope, since they already gave that to us. :mrorange:

 

[pieters2]

Maybe you don't understand we increased it by 35% on the PTR compared to the live system and another additional 15% on draconis. This increase increases the amount of cryonite per hour drastically.

We don't play around we adjust test and adjust, test again adjust if needed and test again.

This is done on the PTR so you can see what we do.

We are trying to get the same values you had when farming in the lowerlevel systems (while farming in the higher level system instead of purging the lower ones)

Currently our test showed that the best value is 50% increase globally and additional 25% increase for draconis.

Normally we try to go from top to the correct value but the 35% and draconis 10% showed that it was already lower the value that we wanted to achieve.

Tested today alone without booster without any "godmode" with the 35% and 10% draconis.

Outcome about 13k in draconis, 10k in sol.

Did you even test with the values or just blindly guess? If you test what equipment did you use and where did you farm?

Hey guys they are clearly listing to us now so cut them some slack every once in a while.
they just restored the cry how it was (before drac update), thats what we wanted right?

now the only problem remains : the bp prices

 

[ridoi]

Hey guys they are clearly listing to us now so cut them some slack every once in a while.
they just restored the cry how it was (before drac update), thats what we wanted right?

now the only problem remains : the bp prices

yes BP prices, but I would be so happy if old cry drop would be back I would not need any bonus to get as much cry as i got before is it so hard SS to make the players happy again? we do not like grinding like hell to then have little pvp fun.


and I hate your stupid loot system damn the dude that did come up with this idea!