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I just had a brilliant idea! Why not every time you collect a blueprint it goes into a cargo hold in your ship - and then you can ether use it (go from 0/2 to 1/2 on a bp, get the idea?) turn it into energy, or . . sell it. Yes, sell it. On the Blueprint/cryonite market. People could sell lets say . . an X-tank bp, for 500 cryo. or, even common bps, like Fusion Force blaster. or, even stuff from siris, like clay blaster, or stuff from the Level 79 Giza. all sorts of stuff could be sold - maybe even event ship bps! The possibilities would be endless, from a upgradeable cargo hold for bps, to a bp cargo hold at a space station! People might be farming level 44 harvs instead of the level 40 harvs because there is higher demand for fusion force items! People could sell hunter parsec blues to a player that has 200k of money to spare and not much time to spare!

Think of the possibilities!
 

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This idea, has seen light countless times, and has been shot down always
Please see Archives section and similar threads to see answers from previous threads since 2010...
http://forum.pirategalaxy.com/viewforum.php?f=183

Message have been always clear, this game doesnt need "trading, ingame item marketing, banking etc"
 

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MrDarkman said:
This idea, has seen light countless times, and has been shot down always
Please see Archives section and similar threads to see answers from previous threads since 2010...
http://forum.pirategalaxy.com/viewforum.php?f=183

Message have been always clear, this game doesnt need "trading, ingame item marketing, banking etc"
I would like to differ. For one, it has not been proposed for a long time. for two, I have an entire clan who would like this to happen. For three, the only people that don't want it are the people that pay for everything with money, which means that they have the power, apperently. My best friend in draconis says that the people in his clan want BP trading - he asked them, and it happens to be the Solar Outcast Brigade, the first clan in the Solaria server. So, think whatever you want to, but it's wanted - and badly needed. I've been playing for a long time, a veteran from 2010! Does anyone on the fourms want it? No. that's because you probably pay for everything and think everyone else should. I've played more than my friend in draconis! he pays cash for items - just shows. I have nothing against people paying for items, but they need to realize that for everyone else, all they end up doing for a good 3/4ths of the time is ether trying to get missions done with bad tech, or trying and failing to get good tech. I'm in MIZAR. I've ended up getting so good soloing, ive soloed the event mission around 4 times now, without even the vega vendetta blaster(and only 1-2 gravis!)! so, listen up: People think that a market is NOT needed - no, the people on the FOURMS think a market is not needed. It's a whole different story. please - developers, as a player from 2010, I appeal to you. Most people are not happy with Tau Ceti - you need something new to make it interesting. so take my advice - a cryonite/blueprint market is needed, wanted, and nothing's gonna change that. Make a poll, ask people what they want in-game as they log on - do they want tau ceti, or a cryo/bp market? The results I garrentee would be supprising for you.
 

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I, for one, Would love this ! I have been telling my friends in game for over two years now that I wanted

this. I just never thought of bringing it to the forums. I always thought this would be great for all players in

pg today, not everyone has time to go on a two- three hour tech hunt for one person, if they have the cryo

they could just pay us for bp's we have in our bp storage center ! I have been playing since august of

2011 and I am lvl 76 in Sirius. I also asked my clan if they would like this to happen (15 pilots) they all

responded with a resounding "Yes!".

That's all I have to say.. i'd love for this to happen.
 

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My best friend in draconis says that the people in his clan want BP trading - he asked them, and it happens to be the Solar Outcast Brigade
I am unaware of any discussions involving this hideous idea in our clan, Solar Outcast Brigade. If it's been discussed, it's been in private.

Veterans of this game understand the importance of this not becoming a "thing". For one, It's easy enough to get someone to help you get the blueprints you need if you have a helpful clan or friends. For two, this game was designed for long play and doing this would definitely shorten the time people spend playing this game. It is of the most importance to not install a trading system in the game due to the inherent nature of players to "help out" their "friends" to get higher than they would be if they had actually had to work on it themselves. More importantly people who have to get BPs themselves and work at it become far greater pilots than ones who are rushed through systems and catered to. Just to think about this becoming a "thing" is actually rather revolting to me and to all known players whom I frequent with in the game.

-Phall, Captain of Solar Outcast Brigade.
 

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akwilsona said:
My best friend in draconis says that the people in his clan want BP trading - he asked them, and it happens to be the Solar Outcast Brigade
I am unaware of any discussions involving this hideous idea in our clan, Solar Outcast Brigade. If it's been discussed, it's been in private.

Veterans of this game understand the importance of this not becoming a "thing". For one, It's easy enough to get someone to help you get the blueprints you need if you have a helpful clan or friends. For two, this game was designed for long play and doing this would definitely shorten the time people spend playing this game. It is of the most importance to not install a trading system in the game due to the inherent nature of players to "help out" their "friends" to get higher than they would be if they had actually had to work on it themselves. More importantly people who have to get BPs themselves and work at it become far greater pilots than ones who are rushed through systems and catered to. Just to think about this becoming a "thing" is actually rather revolting to me and to all known players whom I frequent with in the game.

-Phall, Captain of Solar Outcast Brigade.
well, even if you were anaware of the poll, my friend said that at least 15 members were online, and not one of them disaggreed with the idea. as for one - i've spent so much time trying to join your clan, i've gotten fed up! they say that you must have "teamspeak" which my friend doesn't even use at all, and he was accepted because he made friends with ON_ur_SYX, leader of the clan last time i checked. and for people like me? I play almost every day for 2 hours - and i've played at least 20 days (maybe up to 24 now) of game time. that means at least 480 hours! I spent so much time soloing, that when i started mizar, i was so good that i got the first 8 missions done in 2 hours!!!!!! i even have soloed the last mission in gemini, in fact nearly all of the missions i had no help, or oc on a few.

it would make it shorter? of course! but to me, i don't play 6 hours a day, so it seems LONG. very LONG. i was playing when draconis was nearly new! so, don't tell me that this is an easy game - it's hard enough when you're in my situation. and if you understand in any way what i'm going though, then invite ME to your clan, if you're so smart. my friend has been inactive for more than 2 weeks and he is not even kicked! i've played more than twice the amount he has - and he has all the things he could want!!!

sorry if it seems that this is a rant, but i just got mad when you said: "this game is supposed to be hard" for me, it takes so long to get past two systems, they've already made another one! (nearly)

I would really like to join the Solar outcast brigade, if you don't mind. i've always looked up to it - and i'm more expirianced then most draconis players (nearly all sol players) - and i explored all of baumar with a gemini ship without dying, just as an example. And you think that people become better poilots from bp farming? lol. it's one thing to spend a few months on a system, but i spent a whole year in gemini.

I'll submit a status of me and basic info and see if I get into your clan (i will post the info to ON_ur_SYX - assuming that that's who the clan leader still is). if I don't, you're wrong. If I do, then you're semi right. you say that an expirianced player should be able to get into a good clan? well, my last clan kicked me because his FRIEND wanted to get in. good luck winning your impossible argument if I can't get into your clan.
 

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I must say this seems hypocritical, You seem to disagree with everything Phall is saying. Yet you are nearly begging to join his clan. I do agree with Phall on the parts where people may just get dragged through the
systems even faster and have no Experience. But also I must say that that crap is already going, on I see
many pilots shooting right past me everyday.

That is not abnormal and the trading system I feel wont affect it much. Like I said before, I am a veteran pilot of over two years now just unlocked Sirius at the end of summer.. And I see people get pushed up so fast that they are past me in 3 weeks, already ahead in lvl and tech. It annouys me so much but I deal with it. This trading system would help people mainly in cryonite and
the lower levels get their tech much faster.

Honestly though, I do agree soloing your tech makes you a much better pilot, I did it in Antares and Gemini back in 2011 and I feel I have become a much better pilot because of it. Also one last thing I must say is that the trading system will not shorten the game, I see pilots that try to solo their tech everyday, most of them quit after about 2 months of that, if that isn't shortening the game by itself, I don't know what is.
 

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INVADER ZIM said:
I must say this seems hypocritical, You seem to disagree with everything Phall is saying. Yet you are nearly begging to join his clan. I do agree with Phall on the parts where people may just get dragged through the
systems even faster and have no Experience. But also I must say that that crap is already going, on I see
many pilots shooting right past me everyday.

That is not abnormal and the trading system I feel wont affect it much. Like I said before, I am a veteran pilot of over two years now just unlocked Sirius at the end of summer.. And I see people get pushed up so fast that they are past me in 3 weeks, already ahead in lvl and tech. It annouys me so much but I deal with it. This trading system would help people mainly in cryonite and
the lower levels get their tech much faster.

Honestly though, I do agree soloing your tech makes you a much better pilot, I did it in Antares and Gemini back in 2011 and I feel I have become a much better pilot because of it. Also one last thing I must say is that the trading system will not shorten the game, I see pilots that try to solo their tech everyday, most of them quit after about 2 months of that, if that isn't shortening the game by itself, I don't know what is.
I couldn't agree more. In fact, why don't we make it differnet? yes, people get more skill grinding solo, so why don't we make it a Mizar or Sol unlock? when you get to Mizar or Sol, or do a cirtain mission, you get it unlocked, that way you still have a challenge in vega/antares/gemini! wouldn't that work?

Just throwing in another idea.
 

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skipman said:
I couldn't agree more. In fact, why don't we make it differnet? yes, people get more skill grinding solo, so why don't we make it a Mizar or Sol unlock? when you get to Mizar or Sol, or do a cirtain mission, you get it unlocked, that way you still have a challenge in vega/antares/gemini! wouldn't that work?

Just throwing in another idea.
That's a great idea... I just hope someone else is paying attention other than us.
 

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INVADER ZIM said:
skipman said:
I couldn't agree more. In fact, why don't we make it differnet? yes, people get more skill grinding solo, so why don't we make it a Mizar or Sol unlock? when you get to Mizar or Sol, or do a cirtain mission, you get it unlocked, that way you still have a challenge in vega/antares/gemini! wouldn't that work?

Just throwing in another idea.
That's a great idea... I just hope someone else is paying attention other than us.
just to make a statement, (as to make the idea more appealing to the pirate galaxy team) why not make it so you can sell the bps you can buy with gold? that way people can buy bps with gold and then sell them for cryo! some people would buy a hunter parsec bp maybe for . . . . 100k cryo? 200k? and then the other bps like the scoipion hybrid would be around 5k,10k each, and then you have a bp market! some people HAVE to miss the events because they're on holidays, and they're visiting relatives! why not make the STAM SM-X Fusion Armor and other event bps tradable? then people that have the time can sell them for like, 10k-100k, depending on how long since last event, maybe 5k when it's happening, and then goes rapidly up as fewer and fewer people have them to sell, maybe even up to 200k. I enjoy the thought of this idea, and i can't wait to see if anyone agrees. after all, if you're working on a hanger, why not throw in a market? it would be one of the biggest updates ever, and popular with my friends, that's for sure.
 

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INVADER ZIM said:
I must say this seems hypocritical, You seem to disagree with everything Phall is saying. Yet you are nearly begging to join his clan. I do agree with Phall on the parts where people may just get dragged through the
systems even faster and have no Experience. But also I must say that that crap is already going, on I see
many pilots shooting right past me everyday.

That is not abnormal and the trading system I feel wont affect it much. Like I said before, I am a veteran pilot of over two years now just unlocked Sirius at the end of summer.. And I see people get pushed up so fast that they are past me in 3 weeks, already ahead in lvl and tech. It annouys me so much but I deal with it. This trading system would help people mainly in cryonite and
the lower levels get their tech much faster.

Honestly though, I do agree soloing your tech makes you a much better pilot, I did it in Antares and Gemini back in 2011 and I feel I have become a much better pilot because of it. Also one last thing I must say is that the trading system will not shorten the game, I see pilots that try to solo their tech everyday, most of them quit after about 2 months of that, if that isn't shortening the game by itself, I don't know what is.
To be honest...Skipman is not being "hypocritical" as you saying, he's just being attacked in an ilnatural way.
He just made a nice post about BP Conversion and many people here disagree and attack him in an ilnatural way, even post nice things and other opinions not like a front attack.

I like your idea Skipman, but you may write it at Suggestions or General Disscusions section m8 ;).

Best Regards & Wishes.
 

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Well, "hypocritical" maybe wasn't the right word, sorry. But in reply to your last post skipman, I must say I disagree with the trading of event bp's... those are meant for people who WERE there at the event, and to be unique to those pilots only. I don't even agree with the pg team bringing back all the old events they have been doing it makes those nice event items not so.. rare. and selling them to people who weren't even there for the event ? Well, I wouldn't like it for one. I do agree however that pg needs to get started on this... at least give us a yes or no.. Oh and this should be in the "Suggestions" thread. :mrorange:
 

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INVADER ZIM said:
Well, "hypocritical" maybe wasn't the right word, sorry. But in reply to your last post skipman, I must say I disagree with the trading of event bp's... those are meant for people who WERE there at the event, and to be unique to those pilots only. I don't even agree with the pg team bringing back all the old events they have been doing it makes those nice event items not so.. rare. and selling them to people who weren't even there for the event ? Well, I wouldn't like it for one. I do agree however that pg needs to get started on this... at least give us a yes or no.. Oh and this should be in the "Suggestions" thread. :mrorange:
Yeah, true. Depending from Devolopers m8 :).

Best Regards & Wishes.
 

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It's funny, this game really feels like a 'Neverending Story'.
All these idea's have been posted before, time after time. And the discussion on it is also the exact same.
It's all in archives, or even deleted.

It's a waste of time guys to suggest anything about any topic. Nothing ever happens the way players would like it. Basically, players want things that get them somewhere in the game FASTER. Developers on the other side try to make things go SLOWER.

Wait till you are in Sirius and the big BP gamble begins, when u stumble about for YEARS to finally find a planet with a specific ship on it. WHAAAAAHAHHAHAHAA

You will all learn the hard way, as many many old players did.

Have Fun
 

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Defcon said:
It's funny, this game really feels like a 'Neverending Story'.
All these idea's have been posted before, time after time. And the discussion on it is also the exact same.
It's all in archives, or even deleted.

It's a waste of time guys to suggest anything about any topic. Nothing ever happens the way players would like it. Basically, players want things that get them somewhere in the game FASTER. Developers on the other side try to make things go SLOWER.

Wait till you are in Sirius and the big BP gamble begins, when u stumble about for YEARS to finally find a planet with a specific ship on it. WHAAAAAHAHHAHAHAA

You will all learn the hard way, as many many old players did.

Have Fun
Honestly True... well anyways i have three years gaming and i don't see any difference :p :p
 
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