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So my "clan Admiral" got jailed once again, reason; to pod a lower system player, but I ask you something, does it say at the CoC that you get jailed nor warned to pod a lower system player? And why could the GMs just jail you for that or give you warning? What if the lower system player did start shoot you first? Have GMs forgotten the PM own risk? Have GMs forgotten that podding vega-sol ships gives achievements?

People what do you think? could GMs just do this to you, coudl they have this right, could they follow this stupid rule they made up?


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1) myself i don't attack lower level technology player but i saw many times that "big sharks" wait on landing zone and taunt or paralyze lower level players even if they doing missions :(

2) i will not kill lower level player if he start the fight, because i saw many times that "big sharks" are using lower level players from their clan to start attack on another player - after that they land with their big ships ank kill u because u killed player from their clan - nice trick :LOL:

3) i will kill lower level player if he will attack another lower level player that is under my protection and i helping him doing mission - i did this once and get poded one second after by 60 lvl player :LOL:
 

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1st I do not pod lower lvl players, if they ask I pod them(only if i already got pm on/want to have it on)

2nd if they keep shooting me I'll shoot back, once I was afk at sol for 1 min, and a sol ship did try pod me xD so what I do then? ofc OS him or her 0.o
 

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ridoi said:
1st I do not pod lower lvl players, if they ask I pod them(only if i already got pm on/want to have it on)
one player wanted to pod him, i turn on PM and land, but on the surface he introduced me his clan friends :LOL:

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2nd if they keep shooting me I'll shoot back, once I was afk at sol for 1 min, and a sol ship did try pod me xD so what I do then? ofc OS him or her 0.o
u used Draconis ship vs Sol ship? ok, i'm speaking about using Sol vs Vega or Antares...
 

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I do think they have the right to ban you.
 

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pbhuh said:
I do think they have the right to ban you.
So you want me banned, lol, did talk about jail, and I think it's wrong cus PM is your own risk, GMs should not be your mummy u go cry to, it does nto say at CoC so I think they have no right and who ever GMs that does it shall no mroe have any rights to do those things.
 

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ridoi said:
pbhuh said:
I do think they have the right to ban you.
So you want me banned, lol, did talk about jail, and I think it's wrong cus PM is your own risk, GMs should not be your mummy u go cry to, it does nto say at CoC so I think they have no right and who ever GMs that does it shall no mroe have any rights to do those things.
well, the players of today find it a game to kill low ranks for achievements only.
 

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It ain't all was about that, but let's say I'm at gemini player, got PM on I ask for someone to pod me(high lvl player) and when he or she does, I take some screen shots, simple and no one will find out, and the guy get's in trouble, it's why I don't like this rule, it may be misused, I talk to a GM and he said if a high lvl player pods low lvl player twice he gets jailed or warned, but if it just happens once?
 

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ridoi said:
It ain't all was about that, but let's say I'm at gemini player, got PM on I ask for someone to pod me(high lvl player) and when he or she does, I take some screen shots, simple and no one will find out, and the guy get's in trouble, it's why I don't like this rule, it may be misused, I talk to a GM and he said if a high lvl player pods low lvl player twice he gets jailed or warned, but if it just happens once?
i'm Gemini player and i know now what to do with players with higher level than me, txh ridoi :LOL: (no i don't do that, i'm nice man)
 

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this would be a really stupid rule. To pod lower system players mustn't result in a penalty. What you could implement is sth like a reputation. Therefore the system looks "who shot first", "which player got what ship", "how long did the player with the better ship wait until shooting back", "who was podded". If there's a "Normal" PvP with 2 Gemini-Ships, the winner of the battle will gain reputation. The loser won't lose or gain reputation.

Other thing is, if a Gemini-player fights against a Sol-player. If the Sol-player shot first, killed with one hit, he will LOSE reputation. The Gemini-player won't lose reputation. If the Gemini-player wins, he will gain reputation, more than if he would fight against another Gemini-ship. The loser, so the Sol-player, won't lose or gain rep.
What does the reputation show? It shows, how "fair" the player is. Does he shoot many low levels with a bigger ship? If yes, he will have only few reputation. Is he a fair player, does he wait, if he is attacked by lower levels? Does he only fight against same equipment? If yes, he will have a high reputation, so everyone will see, he respects players etc.pp.
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Only the winner gain/lose reputation, loser won't gain/lose anything. Winner can lose or gain reputation, depending on the situation. How many people fight, which ships, which tech-level, etc.pp.


You spoke about being attacked by clanmates with higher tech, because you defended against another player. This happened to me once, and if i see one of them, i'll GET them, if i have the good equipment for it. No matter, whether it's a lot bigger ship ^^.
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ridoi said:
So my "clan Admiral" got jailed once again, reason; to pod a lower system player, but I ask you something, does it say at the CoC that you get jailed nor warned to pod a lower system player? And why could the GMs just jail you for that or give you warning? What if the lower system player did start shoot you first? Have GMs forgotten the PM own risk? Have GMs forgotten that podding vega-sol ships gives achievements?

People what do you think? could GMs just do this to you, coudl they have this right, could they follow this stupid rule they made up?

P.S: try to not lock this thread xD
Depends very much on the situation I'd say though I don't think it should be made a punishable offense to pod a player in a lower class ship than yourself. Personally i don't generally do it and I can't really respect anyone that actively seeks and destroy those that don't have a chance of winning in the first place.

I mean I'll defend my clanmates and squadies even if the enemy is in lower ship but other than that I'd never attack 'em. What's the fun in podding midgets that can't beat you? and and... just because theyare made an achievment doesn't imply that you HAVE to do it in a cowardly and dishonourable way at all. You CAN deside to fight fairly, it's just most players won't.
 

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Silverman said:
You spoke about being attacked by clanmates with higher tech, because you defended against another player. This happened to me once, and if i see one of them, i'll GET them, if i have the good equipment for it. No matter, whether it's a lot bigger ship ^^.
Greetings
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if any player with lower/higher lvl technology ship pod me it is not big problem for me because i spent all cryo on new ships and bps (i'm silly collector) or i put cryo into my clan so i'm not loosing anything, i only regret - a wasted time that i puted into mission and get poded nearly end :LOL: - i'm not seeking any revenge, it is only game, but players from Vega may be a little disappointed with the game when suddenly a big ship shot into their backs
 

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I don't think any player should get banned or jailed for podding anyone of any level.. I mean how stupid! Banning someone for being a "pirate"? So what!!

Anyone with half a brain knows that high tech verses low tech is no competition and one would think the novelty would wear off.

Going RED carrys the risk of being podded no matter WHO does it. Get a grip and stop making stupid rules and removing even MORE fun from the gameplay. So much has already been removed with threats of banning or jailing etc... lets just have fun!
 

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CapnSanta said:
I don't think any player should get banned or jailed for podding anyone of any level.. I mean how stupid! Banning someone for being a "pirate"? So what!!

Anyone with half a brain knows that high tech verses low tech is no competition and one would think the novelty would wear off.

Going RED carrys the risk of being podded no matter WHO does it. Get a grip and stop making stupid rules and removing even MORE fun from the gameplay. So much has already been removed with threats of banning or jailing etc... lets just have fun!

You Forgot the GDKTPORR= GMs Don't Know The PM Own Risk Rule, if they Rule get's to CoC, Come on this ain't PG anymore, if SS keeps Bombing us with bad update, bad rule, bad feedback, what they think we do? Join Steel legions or Dino storm?
 

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is it a rule? Or an example of an abuse of GM rights/power? IF you develop a set of achievements that involve killing different ships that are in PM mode and DON'T involve any governors (ie kill not credited unless same system ship is used) what do you expect!!! Not everyone has the same code of ethics and an achievement is an achievement. Just another example of lack of forethought before implementing something, which brings us to the current situation. And a little late in the day for attempting to police it.
 

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Has Staff forgotten the bounty I got some few buddies that are mad to get high, and they go to lower systems and do what they need to do!
 
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ridoi said:
CapnSanta said:
I don't think any player should get banned or jailed for podding anyone of any level.. I mean how stupid! Banning someone for being a "pirate"? So what!!

Anyone with half a brain knows that high tech verses low tech is no competition and one would think the novelty would wear off.

Going RED carrys the risk of being podded no matter WHO does it. Get a grip and stop making stupid rules and removing even MORE fun from the gameplay. So much has already been removed with threats of banning or jailing etc... lets just have fun!

You Forgot the GDKTPORR= GMs Don't Know The PM Own Risk Rule, if they Rule get's to CoC, Come on this ain't PG anymore, if SS keeps Bombing us with bad update, bad rule, bad feedback, what they think we do? Join Steel legions or Dino storm?
I happen to know quite a lot about this due to being in lower systems when other people are doing this. I also know for a fact that the gm's give out a lot of warnings before banning players. Your admiral must have been on a serious rampage in order to get himself banned for it. In which case, he had it coming.

Pirate mode does have a risk, your right.

NOT certain death. If you are a sol player and you get jumped by multiple other sol players you can escape with some skill. If you are in Vega you don't even have any resemblance of a hope if a draconis ship decides it would really benefit them to pod you. there are achievements for doing it, but these are meant to be done in that system ship. Otherwise it is just a waste of your time.

If you get lots of achievements without effort in my mind those are just meaningless extra statistics.

Tell your Admiral he deserved it. ^^
 

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lance said:
ridoi said:
CapnSanta said:
I don't think any player should get banned or jailed for podding anyone of any level.. I mean how stupid! Banning someone for being a "pirate"? So what!!

Anyone with half a brain knows that high tech verses low tech is no competition and one would think the novelty would wear off.

Going RED carrys the risk of being podded no matter WHO does it. Get a grip and stop making stupid rules and removing even MORE fun from the gameplay. So much has already been removed with threats of banning or jailing etc... lets just have fun!

You Forgot the GDKTPORR= GMs Don't Know The PM Own Risk Rule, if they Rule get's to CoC, Come on this ain't PG anymore, if SS keeps Bombing us with bad update, bad rule, bad feedback, what they think we do? Join Steel legions or Dino storm?
I happen to know quite a lot about this due to being in lower systems when other people are doing this. I also know for a fact that the gm's give out a lot of warnings before banning players. Your admiral must have been on a serious rampage in order to get himself banned for it. In which case, he had it coming.

Pirate mode does have a risk, your right.

NOT certain death. If you are a sol player and you get jumped by multiple other sol players you can escape with some skill. If you are in Vega you don't even have any resemblance of a hope if a draconis ship decides it would really benefit them to pod you. there are achievements for doing it, but these are meant to be done in that system ship. Otherwise it is just a waste of your time.

If you get lots of achievements without effort in my mind those are just meaningless extra statistics.

Tell your Admiral he deserved it. ^^

you're making a joke of him m8, he does not shoot first, he got jailed 2 tiems, he done it 3 times, the 1st at gemini, the 2nd did happen at vega, when his attack droid killed a vega ship, his 3rd as at gemini once again, when he saw a red shooting him, yes I've tested I have many accounts, so I know how it is, but I'm no cry baby, I hate this silly rule and GMs could know better, if they earn the Right to be Game Master, then you could know better then being a bossy guy, I do not pod low lvl player, if they don't shoot first!
 

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Well, i was away for some 8 months or so. real life was more important. Now i found some time and there is a lot of stuff changed again. Some good other just plain annoying.

Well about the shooting of lower rank pilot's. Wel it happens. i get shot when i fly my Sol ship in Draconis. Not once but a lot off times. Incidental, by someones attack droid. (hilarious) Or accidental splash damage from OS / rockets. And of course intentional. Some dominator just hits you in E field. Reason : 'because ur red'.

Wel it is more then ever my choice to fly in PM. It is called Pirate Galaxy. Small players shoot at me when i appear in a smaller ship on Antares. When i hit smaller players they call in Big players to shoot at me. It is part of the game.

Smaller ships that involve in a equal level fight, like trying to protect squad members or get a few shots in during the fight, well i just hit em. The smae happens to me in Draconis.

In general I leave smaller players alone if they are red. Not much to gain. It might be my enemy when i leave and come back after 6 months again. What goes around comes around.

When i am in an equal ship, yes off course i trie to hit em. Even bigger ones now and then, just for the fun of it. Go after a gem storm in your anteres shock. Great fun speeding away ;)

No, jailing people for shooting low level players, that sounds ridiculous.

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GM dont Jail for that specific reason contrary to the Rumor that is floating around. We try to dismay Drac, Sol, Mizar, & Gemini ships from coming to Antares & Vega for the Sole Purpose of 1 or 2 shotting a Pilot cause they can. These Pilots that do this just have no sense of "Fair Play".

Now what GM will jail for is anything that Violates the CoC as posted in the Forum. No, the 3 or 4 Warning rule is not set in stone if you read the CoC. Depending on the Offense, You may get a Warning & it also depends on whether you are a repeat offender or not.

GM do not & will not take anyones side. The proof is in any Screenshots or chat that is recieved or anything they see 1st hand. GM see you violate the Posted CoC Player Conduct Guideline Version 1.7.a (CoC) do get & will be punished
 
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