Sniper class, The new paper ship!

[Proteus1959]

A very short time ago my mate and I read in about upcoming changes to the sniper ship.SS asked that players go to the PTR to test the changes. We did all that and I, being a sniper pilot, didn't like the changes at all.From there I went to the forum and read. My mate stated that at the time there were 4 pages regarding the strength of the OS. I read them. I saw 2 players complaining of the strength. Both were parsec pilots and from the same clan. one of the players seemed to lean toward one player's use of his sniper and not necessarily the ship class in general. Maybe I was unaware of the hundreds of other posts that were in the forum and maybe someone can point them out to me. This sound as though that specific sniper pilot has honed his skills to the point that he should be praised not punished. Nor should the rest of the sniper pilots be punished. As I see it, two complaints do not warrant the drastic changes that were made. SS might as well have just deleted the sniper class all together. The sniper class has very poor armor and the firepower balanced the ship simple as that! With the changes, SS should have at least given the ship more armor, but that was not done. The ship seems to have been redesigned on paper and SS took that PAPER and put it in the game. And was the short period of time that the change was placed on the PTR before it became active really enough time to obtain feedback from the sniper pilots? NOT! It seem that SS cared little about feedback because the decision had been made.I find it very disturbing that no other ship class pilot has voiced a complaint. Of the two pilots in question, I admire one very greatly and have no complaints about the other and hope that they do not take this post as a direct assault upon them because it is not. The complaints could have been posted by anyone. I feel that SS was completely wrong in the way that they dealt with the situation.We began playing this game free as advertised. It peaked at about $200 monthly.It seems that after each upgrade, the benefits gained by spending that amount of money is dwindling and it is about $120 monthly. I am looking foward to future fixes and free play again SS.The sniper should be restored and players should just learn to play!

 

[ridoi]

I can say this to you, sniper ships as pvp ship, is not like before.

 

[CapnSanta]

To whomever is responsible for decisions made for changes in game....

Thankyou for totally NERFING the Draco Sniper OS... It is far too slow now... even mantis can escape from its slow detonation.

Also, you may as well close down the PTR due to the fact that when you ask to test new things in there it seems whatever you are told by players is totally ignored and you simply nerf items anyway. So I call for it to be closed.

And don't get me started on the DDB and how often the supposed TOP gun in Draco can MISS so often! Nor get me started on the so called "Green Balancing due to tech used" within each system. I was on Gazica and shot over 25 mantis before I got a single green to drop... I mean to say... 6% reduction in green rate?? My foot! Your formulas need work..... how about spending a little bit of time fixing things like that instead of nerfing items that work PERFECTLY ok.

 

[DefenderofPirates]

To whomever is responsible for decisions made for changes in game....

Thankyou for totally NERFING the Draco Sniper OS... It is far too slow now... even mantis can escape from its slow detonation.

Also, you may as well close down the PTR due to the fact that when you ask to test new things in there it seems whatever you are told by players is totally ignored and you simply nerf items anyway. So I call for it to be closed.

And don't get me started on the DDB and how often the supposed TOP gun in Draco can MISS so often! Nor get me started on the so called "Green Balancing due to tech used" within each system. I was on Gazica and shot over 25 mantis before I got a single green to drop... I mean to say... 6% reduction in green rate?? My foot! Your formulas need work..... how about spending a little bit of time fixing things like that instead of nerfing items that work PERFECTLY ok.

Been a while since I posted ever since I quit this game. I sometimes read over the posts every so often to see if the game is improving... It is things like this on why I quit the game... I sit here and read all these complaints and SS pays no attention to any of them what so ever... do complaints matter anymore? I think SS just does whatever they please and don't listen to the players anymore! This is why I quit the game in the first place!

 

[Whatever]

To whomever is responsible for decisions made for changes in game....

Thankyou for totally NERFING the Draco Sniper OS... It is far too slow now... even mantis can escape from its slow detonation.

Also, you may as well close down the PTR due to the fact that when you ask to test new things in there it seems whatever you are told by players is totally ignored and you simply nerf items anyway. So I call for it to be closed.

And don't get me started on the DDB and how often the supposed TOP gun in Draco can MISS so often! Nor get me started on the so called "Green Balancing due to tech used" within each system. I was on Gazica and shot over 25 mantis before I got a single green to drop... I mean to say... 6% reduction in green rate?? My foot! Your formulas need work..... how about spending a little bit of time fixing things like that instead of nerfing items that work PERFECTLY ok.

HO-HO-HO ^^

I concur with all that you Santa clearly stated (especially DDB poor hit rate) here and I'd like to add one more thing related to sniper - its attack charge IS NOT working. I even bought rare one and still there is no increase in sniper ship attack. Why the SS is making fools out of players - sniper ship has a weak armor and the only thing that was keeping it alive was superior firepower. Now SS took that away too. They rendered engis useless, now they make sniper ships only good for grind on molikar

 

[pbhuh]

and now, someone does it to the shock too, who wants to start a complain about that rockets are too fast and too strong?

 

[ridoi]

and now, someone does it to the shock too, who wants to start a complain about that rockets are too fast and too strong?

if i would weaken up any ship then I will ask my self, why make mantis stronger and player ships weaker, am not a person that likes to weaken up ships, cus they think, it's stronger then the ship i use most!

btw I am a pilot that likes using any ship, but I am a sniper pilot in sol and higher!

 

[Ctfunnygirl]

Whatever is totally correct about the attack buff having no effect at all.

We tested the sniper and made screen shots of the damage to my ship both using the buff and not using it.

The damage is identical. This should be looked into.

Lool - Askone Server

 

[plop]

i dont see why anyone ever posts anything on these forums anymore as splitscreen have never ever listened and never will and it will be there one big fail as it will be the one thing that will send splitscreen under, do all yourselfs a favour and boycot these forums and find a better game to play, stop paying splitscreen your hard earned cash and hit them where it hurts in there pockets then they will have to ether listen too us or shut the game down and loose out all together, i have every right to post this as iv spent alot of cash on this game and as a paying customer have every right to air my views on how splitscreen treat us as a community

 

[ridoi]

OK ppl shall know this for the old pvp style before the storm, sniper got changed


tank: could beat any ship, and get beaten by all ships

stunner: could beat any ship, and get beaten by all ships

storm: could beat any ship, and get beaten by all ships( not engineer at fair pvp xD )

sniper: could beat any ship, and get beaten by all ships

ok now the truth

tank, still the same...

stunner, still the same...

storm, kabomb it will have a really hard time to crush the tank, cus of it's weaker thermo-blaster, and stunner cus it's rocket won't be much effective... a storm winning vs those ships are really rare...

But the other ships should it make it much more effective to crush

sniper can't beat any ships with a big chance anymore, try vs a engineer


These so called "updates" did un-balance the system so high...

cheers.

 

[plop]

i think they should make the orbital strike fire fast as it says in its name it a strike aka fast hitting but its power was a little too much, so by all means nerf the power a bit but dont take away its fast strike, and im not even a sniper ship pilot

 

[ridoi]

i think they should make the orbital strike fire fast as it says in its name it a strike aka fast hitting but its power was a little too much, so by all means nerf the power a bit but dont take away its fast strike, and im not even a sniper ship pilot

if make the os little less weaker you need to increase the snipers armor, or it won't be able to crush ships, as tank or storm...

 

[plop]

i think they should make the orbital strike fire fast as it says in its name it a strike aka fast hitting but its power was a little too much, so by all means nerf the power a bit but dont take away its fast strike, and im not even a sniper ship pilot

if make the os little less weaker you need to increase the snipers armor, or it won't be able to crush ships, as tank or storm...

thats the thing its not ment to be able to crush any ship or visa versa, in its current form if the os hits a storm it can and often will take 3 full bars of hp off you (speaking as a storm pilot) this is too powerful, the rockets and thermo both have been nerfed so why not the os as well???, nether the tank or the storm crush anything and if your being crushed by them then your not playing the sniper as it should be played, i had a full rare draconis sniper and a full rare sol sniper too i changed ages ago to the storm as i was bored with the sniper. Yes the os needs to fire faster but thats all that needs changing, but to be totally truthful splitscreen really need to bring back the old armor/hp sytem that we had before sol came out that would make pvp way more fun again and bring some more skill into the fight and not just mindless button bashing over in ten seconds pvp fights

 

[Proteus1959]

i think they should make the orbital strike fire fast as it says in its name it a strike aka fast hitting but its power was a little too much, so by all means nerf the power a bit but dont take away its fast strike, and im not even a sniper ship pilot

if make the os little less weaker you need to increase the snipers armor, or it won't be able to crush ships, as tank or storm...

thats the thing its not ment to be able to crush any ship or visa versa, in its current form if the os hits a storm it can and often will take 3 full bars of hp off you (speaking as a storm pilot) this is too powerful, the rockets and thermo both have been nerfed so why not the os as well???, nether the tank or the storm crush anything and if your being crushed by them then your not playing the sniper as it should be played, i had a full rare draconis sniper and a full rare sol sniper too i changed ages ago to the storm as i was bored with the sniper. Yes the os needs to fire faster but thats all that needs changing, but to be totally truthful splitscreen really need to bring back the old armor/hp sytem that we had before sol came out that would make pvp way more fun again and bring some more skill into the fight and not just mindless button bashing over in ten seconds pvp fights

As a storm pilot I would expect that type of response, but you fail to consider. you fire your rockets, they follow the target, you fire your thermo, it stays with the target! If you sit beneath an O/S, you deserve to lose 3 bars. Sorry, but that is the way it is! O/S doesn't move, maybe you should!

 

[plop]

i think they should make the orbital strike fire fast as it says in its name it a strike aka fast hitting but its power was a little too much, so by all means nerf the power a bit but dont take away its fast strike, and im not even a sniper ship pilot

if make the os little less weaker you need to increase the snipers armor, or it won't be able to crush ships, as tank or storm...

thats the thing its not ment to be able to crush any ship or visa versa, in its current form if the os hits a storm it can and often will take 3 full bars of hp off you (speaking as a storm pilot) this is too powerful, the rockets and thermo both have been nerfed so why not the os as well???, nether the tank or the storm crush anything and if your being crushed by them then your not playing the sniper as it should be played, i had a full rare draconis sniper and a full rare sol sniper too i changed ages ago to the storm as i was bored with the sniper. Yes the os needs to fire faster but thats all that needs changing, but to be totally truthful splitscreen really need to bring back the old armor/hp sytem that we had before sol came out that would make pvp way more fun again and bring some more skill into the fight and not just mindless button bashing over in ten seconds pvp fights

As a storm pilot I would expect that type of response, but you fail to consider. you fire your rockets, they follow the target, you fire your thermo, it stays with the target! If you sit beneath an O/S, you deserve to lose 3 bars. Sorry, but that is the way it is! O/S doesn't move, maybe you should!

well with that kind of response you deserve to have the time it takes for os to go off nerfed then to give people time to get away from it, if os goes off straight away how do you expect people to escape the os blast??? and with (needless comment) reply you give to someone aka ME that was sticking up for the sniper ship you clearly have problems in reading, I SAID MAKE THE OS FIRE FASTER, but if you want it to fire fast then there will be no escape from its blast so there for nerf the power it does to take off 2 bars like the storms rockets or thermo does that way its even isnt it, well simple for those folks that can read that is

 

[Proteus1959]

"thats the thing its not ment to be able to crush any ship or visa versa, in its current form if the os hits a storm it can and often will take 3 full bars of hp off you (speaking as a storm pilot) this is too powerful, the rockets and thermo both have been nerfed so why not the os as well???... Yes the os needs to fire faster but thats all that needs changing,"

To fire faster but weaken the damage? Faster solves absolutely nothing, if you can flee without damage, really, what difference does it make. Even I feel that instantaneous damage is unfair! The thermoblast does not seem to be missing very often as I can see and renders the repair droids virtually useless. Followed with rockets, combined with the aim computer, a storm is and probably always will be devastating to a sniper.
My point is to keep things the way the were. It is my opinion that the offensive/defensive capabilities of each ship made them equal. The advantage therefore, was given to the pilot with the greater skill!

Now, to respond to your insults, It appears you said "... this is too powerful" and " Yes the os needs to fire faster but thats all that needs changing," You said a combination of things, not just the one,let's leave it at that!

 

[ridoi]

The sniper been weaken all times in the PG times, I did expect that it would happen again, and it did.

My point of view when I said sniper could crush, was like a storm crushing a sniper... I say just abalce the ships, not rip it apart, where 1 ship has it's items weaken, and is almost useless at a 1v1.

I for my own sake did never say a ship was overpowered, cus I know that would harm my self, cus of thinking I am a fool. I am a all runner; that would say: I use all ships I can pvp in any ships. So if i see any player complain that a ship is overpowered, and it ain't, then it's just pathetic.

 

[plop]

when a ship can take 3/4 of your hp in a shot it is over powered simple as, give the sniper more hp that i agree, make the orbital strike fire faster that i agree, but if you did all them things and didnt nerf the damage the orbital strike did then the sniper ship would then become over powered

 

[plop]

"thats the thing its not ment to be able to crush any ship or visa versa, in its current form if the os hits a storm it can and often will take 3 full bars of hp off you (speaking as a storm pilot) this is too powerful, the rockets and thermo both have been nerfed so why not the os as well???... Yes the os needs to fire faster but thats all that needs changing,"

To fire faster but weaken the damage? Faster solves absolutely nothing, if you can flee without damage, really, what difference does it make. Even I feel that instantaneous damage is unfair! The thermoblast does not seem to be missing very often as I can see and renders the repair droids virtually useless. Followed with rockets, combined with the aim computer, a storm is and probably always will be devastating to a sniper.
My point is to keep things the way the were. It is my opinion that the offensive/defensive capabilities of each ship made them equal. The advantage therefore, was given to the pilot with the greater skill!

Now, to respond to your insults, It appears you said "... this is too powerful" and " Yes the os needs to fire faster but thats all that needs changing," You said a combination of things, not just the one,let's leave it at that!

please tell me this combination of things i said?. As i see it if you want a weapon to fire faster then you got to take away the fact that it can almost 1 shot some ships in this game, in ANY mmo the damage dealer ALWAYS have the lest hp/armor

 

[ridoi]

when a ship can take 3/4 of your hp in a shot it is over powered simple as, give the sniper more hp that i agree, make the orbital strike fire faster that i agree, but if you did all them things and didnt nerf the damage the orbital strike did then the sniper ship would then become over powered

I totally agree, but there would all be some problems with it, as grinding... and more complains, I just don't want it to get so under powered that I will give up being a sniper pilot, I see sniper so rarely, I got no clue if I am 1 still.